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Centrist Committee posted:what are you basing this on, capitalists aren’t unified or trying to “create equity” of any kind. in fact this thread only exists to explore the divisions between capitalist factions and their irrational, esoteric beliefs meanwhile, the biggest part of bbb is the salt cap repeal
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Centrist Committee posted:what are you basing this on, capitalists aren’t unified or trying to “create equity” of any kind. in fact this thread only exists to explore the divisions between capitalist factions and their irrational, esoteric beliefs not answering for PMJ but there is both the capacity for capitalists to act in divisive and irrational ways while the systemic feedbacks means the capitalists as a class continue to accrue equity. each individual capitalist might act for irrational and sometimes perverse reasons, but at large the interaction of those individual actions within their systems embedding still lead towards one direction over time.
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oh if “equity” was supposed to me more profits or capital accumulation then sure I agree but I read it as equality and fraternity among capitalists, as if it doesn’t all bend back toward aristocratic blood lines to draw the circles as tightly as possible eventually
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Nov 10, 2021 00:37
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Centrist Committee posted:oh if “equity” was supposed to me more profits or capital accumulation then sure I agree but I read it as equality and fraternity among capitalists, as if it doesn’t all bend back toward aristocratic blood lines to draw the circles as aristocracies are also called "peerages" in certain places
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The Saucer Hovers posted:please stop being so hostel itt i'd be friendlier if not for all these drat moths in my mouth 
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Mola Yam posted:lots of new posts in the epstine thread! going to go ahead and assume that ghislane killed herself in prison, or the little st james dvd vault was leaked online. lol. Same.
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Mola Yam posted:lots of new posts in the epstine thread! going to go ahead and assume that ghislane killed herself in prison, or the little st james dvd vault was leaked online.
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what was happening in the thread before the live nation crowd crush derail anyway? discussion begins at the bottom of page 856. prior three pages contain... - https://twitter.com/marina0swald/status/1453879383219900419/photo/1 state department rents epstein a mansion in 1992 - facebook knowingly involved in sex trafficking - i post the entirety of borges' deutches requiem OutOfPrint posted:The entirety of the post-WWII era was defined by a handful of ivy league jerkoffs who hated how communism threatened their own social and financial standing so much that they thought the Nazis were their natural allies from the late 30's until _________. - carl schmitt, the nazi emergency powers judge, gotta hand it to him re: his observations on the frailty of liberal democracy in a time of crisis - moonies at jan 6, crowns of bullets. falun gong a cia op who spreads qanon poo poo - qanon a psyop, trump a white hat pedophile - actual pedophile tony podesta - google removing search by date on mobile a few months before epstein arrested (actually maybe they just changed the syntax) - pizzagate as chaff / hypernormalization - whatever happened to matt gaetz anyway - photograph of clinton with epstein victim - coordinated cross-platform censorship: definitely real, impolite to discuss, qui bono - john podesta and ghislaine maxwell in police sketches for kidnapping case - release of kennedy files delayed again - "comet ping pong guy’s James Alefantis instagram photos" - what's that? - king salman is thicc - unification of police databases done with maxwell family involvement, probable enables sex trafficking - james angleton, including zizek on angleton - read devil's chessboard - william donovan buddies with nazis - afghanistan withdrawl = whoops no more heroin - mlsm posts about hostel for some reason - phish and the defense finance and accounting service
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https://en.mogaznews.com/World-News/1856853/Ghislaine-Maxwell-proposes-calling-psychologist-who-testified-at-Weinstein-trial.html huh, so the satanic panic is pretty thread-relevant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Loftus
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Tungsten posted:- qanon a psyop, trump a white hat pedophile 
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i stole the phrasing from chapo trap house or something
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Tungsten posted:https://en.mogaznews.com/World-News/1856853/Ghislaine-Maxwell-proposes-calling-psychologist-who-testified-at-Weinstein-trial.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_School_for_Social_Research?wprov=sfla1 e: Misread. Wasabi the J has issued a correction as of 03:45 on Nov 10, 2021 |
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Just popped in because I don't know if this has ever been discussed in the thread yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FUersarZuo
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is there any evidence that castration has any effect on pedophilia? I bring it up because I'm watching this medical drama show ("The Good Doctor") and the ethical dilemma of the day was a guy that they found out was a sexual predator, and one of the doctors says they should castrate him in order to kill off his sex drive, and the head doctor says that they cannot do that if it's not medically necessary/relevant what ends up happening in the end is that they manage to save the guy's life without needing to castrate him, and they refer him to a shrink to get the help he needs, but then he's so guilty that he ends up committing suicide-by-bus anyway I'm just wondering if the show is peddling a factoid that isn't actually true
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gradenko_2000 posted:is there any evidence that castration has any effect on pedophilia? I do not think sex drive is stored in the balls.
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Tungsten posted:what was happening in the thread before the live nation crowd crush derail anyway? also, chris pratt and anna faris hosted a party for a pedo
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gradenko_2000 posted:is there any evidence that castration has any effect on pedophilia? as a goat owner, i can confidently state that castration does not totally remove sex drive, even if done before puberty edit: also, trans women exist Tungsten has issued a correction as of 08:25 on Nov 10, 2021 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:is there any evidence that castration has any effect on pedophilia? i think if they cant use their dick they will use a knife or something else instead
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Sleekly posted:i think if they cant use their dick they will use a knife or something else instead see also harvey weinstein's rotten dick stub
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what are the chances that a dude who took part in the 2004 Orange Revolution also rioted on 1/6? https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1457684699665551366?s=20
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nomad2020 posted:So with the satanic stuff, by what mechanism do we believe that Travis purposefully sacrificed 8 people, and were the specific victims targeted or was the number of victims even a concern. but if it was... There's a chance Travis Scott is so numbed by drugs and controlled the people who make sure his drugs get delivered to him that he has no conscious will of his own at this point maybe that sort of thing regularly going on in the recording industry - keeping someone permanently drugged and compliant but also productive - is one of the dividends of MK-Ultra but that's beside the point It's not like he's an elaborate set designer/choreographer/event planner who just raps and male models on the side and controls every aspect of his concerts His job among other things is to get people rowdy and unfortunately in this instance he is good at what he does Pointing the finger at the people on stage is like blaming the chanting guy with the knife and nobody else at the altar for a more conventional human sacrifice But it doesn't matter so much who does a ritual so long as somebody does the ritual having a robot perform a ritual causes the ritual to fail but having someone else perform the ritual still results in success, according to someone* who has had the time and resources and interest to experiment with these things But more likely things just come together in terrible ways and people die and in the good old days we'd learn from these mistakes Sure seems like accountability is becoming a thing of the past though in a lot of areas * the person who explained this might have been a actual moderate conservative, rare in this day and age, who is among other things the product of Department of Defence sex magic "research" and whose family is heavily involved in various levels of politics and btw they have telekinetic and psychic powers which they learned to control with the help of demons if I understand them correctly - but maybe they're worth hearing out on the practical aspects of occultism compared to a lot of the dubious, credulous and extremist commentators in that space Like they seem pretty happy to live a mundane life with a stable and apparently healthy relationship apart from their weird poo poo that they're just trying to understand themselves, at least they aren't talking about getting people to confuse the boundaries between fantasy and reality while claiming to be revenue maximization specialist whose hobby is teleporting between uprisings, that would be highly suspect EVAN
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gradenko_2000 posted:is there any evidence that castration has any effect on pedophilia? I had a patient once who was considering it (way back in the late 90s, idk if there's newer research) and back then the typically quoted efficacy rate of chemical castration in preventing reoffending was 30%.
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like if you want to talk about an op https://twitter.com/RapDose/status/1454909178074603520?s=20 Roddy Rich performed at Astroworld and we all know about Manson
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:what are the chances that a dude who took part in the 2004 Orange Revolution also rioted on 1/6? if it's true then the most interesting fact is that either the CIA is not protecting an asset, or him going to prison for Trump to build credibility for the future
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Tungsten posted:as a goat owner, i can confidently state that castration does not totally remove sex drive, even if done before puberty yeah we exist, and a big part of hrt is that the chemical reduction of gonadal hormones and introduction of foreign hormones does, for a time, absolutely murder sex drive for probably 90% of us that start feminizing hormone therapy. I am not actually so sure that the experience is mirrored for transmasc folks, due to the nature of testosterone, but it's possible and I invite interjection from someone that knows better. But it's not infertility that does it, it's loss of access to sex hormones. Even still, the period of sex-drive loss is usually temporary. I'm coming up on three years and I was only like truely disinterested in sex for about three months in the beginning, then things started slowly coming back in altered form. Removing a pedo's nuts is mostly a punishment to satisfy revenge urges in the victim and/or the social group imposing the punishment; it's not truly effective for sure.
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:like if you want to talk about an op what the gently caress lol
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In fiction eunuchs are always depicted as sex driveless
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Feral Integral posted:In fiction eunuchs are always depicted as sex driveless reality is, as usual, more interesting https://www.nytimes.com/1984/09/16/arts/history-s-last-castrato-is-heard-again.html posted:No wonder that castrati, who had this unusual vocal quality coupled to unparalleled virtuosity, were the first superstars of music. They took Europe by storm. Rich, vain, ungainly, they commanded any opera house in which they appeared. They moved among nobility on equal terms. And they attracted women, especially high-born and decadent women on the lookout for something exotic and titillating. Nor did their mistresses have to worry about bearing children to them.
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Trabisnikof posted:Although we might disagree about some things, we all agree the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency is the lamest intelligence agency, right? probably yes, the coolest one is the NRO imo
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gradenko_2000 posted:is there any evidence that castration has any effect on pedophilia? this is anecdotic, but comes from a friend who's a psychotherapist/psychoanalyst who studies neurology too. We were talking about conspiracist thinking and I chatted about Epstein and the subject touched there. Her boyfriend then asked how is that "treatable" and she gave a very insightful explanation. According to her and to the general psychotherapeutic/psychoanalytic literature, the vast majority of cases that configure pedophilia are not "organic" (let's use that word for the sake of expediency) in the sense that people are born with it. Within that category, as an "organic" condition, it turns out that most of them very quickly realize in their lives that something is wrong with their sexual function and turn to help. The problem is getting them to turn to specialized help, which can be far more about luck than anything else. Because they understand that impulse as something dysfunctional to the wellbeing of others and themselves, the largest and most difficult part of psychotherapy is already taken care of. There's plenty of technique to deal with that, besides effective psychiatric assistances. Psychotherapeutic methods to help people with a variety of hardcore problems are put to use every day with great effect and this isn't different. The real issue comes with people who develop pedophilia as symptom, which is the majority. We've already touched this a few times along the thread. Sexual abuse, turns out, isn't a primarily sexual matter for who does it because the gratification derived from it isn't sexual at all; what is satisfied in it is the urge for power, which in the particular case of pedophilia, has a double effect: the subjugation of somebody who is more vulnerable and the transgression against our social morality, which is the far greater kick the transgressor desires. Now, imagine my shock that the latter is sought way more by wealthier people than the first? Treatment becomes a far more complicated matter because the ego of the abuser doesn't recognize that as dysfunctional to themselves, especially as wealth enables narcissistic compulsions: they negotiated with the victim, they treated them lavishly, they made sure to pamper the victim, they never did anything the victim did not want, etc so forth. This is egoic justification, a defense against recognizing the perceptions of others (which would mean recognizing the transgression). By making it seem it was a negotiation, a mutually beneficial arrangement, the perversity (in the mind of the doer) isn't realized. Since egomania and narcissism are frequent with this type of abuser, it is very unlikely that they are going to seek voluntary treatment; what then? My friend, a socialist too, was quite unequivocal. This is a social problem. These personalities will not seek help, but there is one thing they respond pretty well to: fear. Ultimately, all their self-justification and ritualization is all about dealing with the unconscious fear. By making it manifest in a palpable way (let's say, putting them near a guillotine), the spell of power is broken. There's nothing they hate more than that illusion going away.
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Riot Bimbo posted:Eunuchs gently caress totally. the whole point of having eunuchs was having a crew of dudes running the palace that u didnt have to worry about secretly knocking up the empress or whatever and loving up the lineage. making them not want to gently caress defeats the other whole point which was to have a bunch of pretty dudes around to have sex with
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illuminating explanation, thank you for putting in the effort. that's something that intrinsically makes sense to me, but i'd never have thought to lay it out like that. also it feeds my base desire to make rich and powerful abusers (but i repeat myself) fear for their lives and positions, so i'm sure that's healthy and right
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:like if you want to talk about an op is Christianity an op. poo poo POST MALONE posted:what are the chances that a dude who took part in the 2004 Orange Revolution also rioted on 1/6? every old anti-communist group in the US from ARVN holdouts to the Moonies sent a delegation, so it makes sense the Ukrainian fascists had some guys there too.
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What do you mean "op"? It's a useful instrument for subjugation and abuse.
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Riot Bimbo posted:yeah we exist, and a big part of hrt is that the chemical reduction of gonadal hormones and introduction of foreign hormones does, for a time, absolutely murder sex drive for probably 90% of us that start feminizing hormone therapy. I am not actually so sure that the experience is mirrored for transmasc folks, due to the nature of testosterone, but it's possible and I invite interjection from someone that knows better. Can't speak to their use in transition but there's a reason dudes that are doing androgens to get swole have to take estrogen blockers.
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My feeling is Epstein has broken a lot of people and the real motivation behind this "left esoterica" poo poo and trying to prove elites have actual magic powers and do mass rituals to harness the forces of darkness is that people want an excuse to surrender entirely and wallow in their own helplessness. I mean what are you doing when you give your enemy literal superpowers? You're resigning yourself. Get some garlic and salt and stop thinking about any of it at all. What else are we supposed to do if they can actually levitate and do magik. Or you're looking for an excuse to become a conservative from the 80s. There are people "on the left" right now trying to argue that even if we dont believe in Satan and the occult, we should pretend we do because right wingers do and it will help us "build solidarity" with them if we use this Travis Scott thing as an ice breaker. Just garbage isn't it. Levels of dipshittery beyond the pale. Edit: the conversation had moved on by the time I posted this, sorry.
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