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Inspector Gesicht posted:If I were to do a second stab at 5's job-system there would be no Freelancer class, and you'd equip a main job and sub-job to get both abilities. You'd be incentivised to switch jobs as you would cross-class bonuses for leveling them up. I dunno that I can agree with the idea of no freelancer - I feel like there's value in saying "okay, now the shackles are off, tear the game asunder" at some point. That said, what you describe is largely how the Bravely series works, which was awesome. Swordmaster/Berserker 
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The best implementation of the job system outside of FFV was FFX-2. You equip each character with a Garment Grid that can hold between 2-7 jobs. In battle, you can switch you characters' jobs on the fly, allowing you to adapt to random encounters and boss fights dynamically. Additionally, Garment Grids can have extra passive effects or active commands that become active as you switch jobs during combat. Also, FFX-2 had the best implementation of the Berserker job, because instead of just always being in permanent Berserk status, it had a bunch of normal skills like every other job, one of which was the option to just flip out and go nuts for the rest of the fight.
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Nov 10, 2021 16:23
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OK it's 9:30am CST on Nov 10th and I still cannot install FF5 what the gently caress I thought this poo poo came out at midnight
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Nov 10, 2021 16:25
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Elephant Ambush posted:OK it's 9:30am CST on Nov 10th and I still cannot install FF5 what the gently caress 90 minutes.
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Nov 10, 2021 16:26
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Looks like I can download it right now on iOS.
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Nov 10, 2021 16:29
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I feel like I already know the answer is "no," but they haven't started adding controller support to the mobile Pixel Remasters, right? I'd absolutely love to have these handheld but I really, really would rather not use touch controls.
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Nov 10, 2021 16:32
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Inspector Gesicht posted:90 minutes. Thanks
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Nov 10, 2021 16:37
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So you can download it on iOS right now, but it seems you can’t start a new game yet. BUT the music player works, and my god. It is wonderful.
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Nov 10, 2021 16:37
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If they could make FF12 but with FF11’s TP system and skillchains that would be a truly wonderful experience. Or Chrono Trigger-style tech combos
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Nov 10, 2021 16:38
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jokes posted:If they could make FF12 but with FF11’s TP system and skillchains that would be a truly wonderful experience. More rpgs should steal the double and triple techs from Chrono Trigger, combination attacks are rad
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Nov 10, 2021 16:40
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As I impatiently await my GMG key for FFV while at work - has anyone played Bravely Default 2? It has "very positive" on steam but steam users will thumbs up basically anything that has a good PC port and reviews are kinda middling
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Nov 10, 2021 16:50
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Ugh, like 5 hours before I can play! Stupid work.
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Nov 10, 2021 16:51
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What are the top "Most OP/broken party combos" for FF5 ? I haven't played FF 5 before, but I don't mind breezing through it on my first go. I hear Samurai and Time Mages (Chronomancer?) are the tits. Or should I just pick whatever looks fun? (Any jobs to outright avoid?)
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Nov 10, 2021 16:52
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DourCricket posted:As I impatiently await my GMG key for FFV while at work - has anyone played Bravely Default 2? It has "very positive" on steam but steam users will thumbs up basically anything that has a good PC port and reviews are kinda middling It’s fine. I guess. Bravely Default 1 was very good, and Bravely Second was mechanically just very impressive and tight (and I liked the Frenchmen from the moon stuff), and I liked the story but didn’t care for most of the parts in the middle. Bravely Default 2 is a pretty standard JRPG, and it really lost most of its connection to final fantasy but it doesn’t stand well on its own. It’s fine, though. I guess.
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Nov 10, 2021 16:54
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Inspector Gesicht posted:If I were to do a second stab at 5's job-system there would be no Freelancer class, and you'd equip a main job and sub-job to get both abilities. You'd be incentivised to switch jobs as you would cross-class bonuses for leveling them up. this is bravely default and in general it worked pretty good dont think about the story too hard
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Nov 10, 2021 16:58
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The best thing bravely default did was the black mage costumes in BD1 because I had been imagining black mages as Halloween witches for a long time so it fit perfectly
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Nov 10, 2021 17:02
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jokes posted:.... That sucks - I was a big fan of the first one. I need some more job-system games in my life but I don't really have time anymore for "it's fine"
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Nov 10, 2021 17:08
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I really loved Bravely Default but for some reason bounced off of both Bravely Second and Bravely Default 2, not really sure exactly why. But I still love the first Bravely Default to this day.jokes posted:The best thing bravely default did was the black mage costumes in BD1 because I had been imagining black mages as Halloween witches for a long time so it fit perfectly I also love the Red Mage costumes in BD1 and I keep wishing we could have some variant of that look in FFXIV.
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Nov 10, 2021 17:09
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FFV is not fine, it’s perfect and beautiful and if you look closely you will find that it is the best FF that isn’t FF14
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Nov 10, 2021 17:09
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I thought Bravely Default 2 was fantastic, but yeah the sentiment around here is that it's terrible. 
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Nov 10, 2021 17:10
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Coffee Jones posted:A few years later you have comparatively unlimited storage, an ambitious team and suddenly it’s funding that’s the true bottleneck - it’s the Xenogears disc 2 situation Or Dragon Quest 7 where funding isn't an issue and your game just ends up being insanely long. multijoe posted:FF16 is also going for an FF14/Ivalice vibe so Creative Business Unit 3 is carrying that Matsuno torch onwards Triangle Strategy's demo had noticeable "we love Tactics Ogre" vibes as well.
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Nov 10, 2021 17:11
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I definitely don't think Bravely Default 2 is terrible or even bad, it just didn't click with me for some reason. I should go back and try it again sometime.
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Nov 10, 2021 17:13
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jokes posted:If they could make FF12 but with FF11’s TP system and skillchains that would be a truly wonderful experience. Yesss I find it very surprising they haven't returned to the skillchain/magic burst concept in a single player game. Or a single player vana'diel game. Square, you cowards, enough with ivalice, I want a gimmicky ninja yagudo party member
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Nov 10, 2021 17:14
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jiffynuts posted:What are the top "Most OP/broken party combos" for FF5 ? I haven't played FF 5 before, but I don't mind breezing through it on my first go. I hear Samurai and Time Mages (Chronomancer?) are the tits. Or should I just pick whatever looks fun? (Any jobs to outright avoid?) Chemist and Samurai are very broken together if you've got money and dragon fangs. GilToss damage is based on level and a dragon fang + high potion Mix boosts levels by 20 and is repeatable. Even in the mid-teen levels you can cap damage on most bosses after 2-4 Mixes. Bard could do the same thing eventually but it takes more time to ramp up and you don't get the level song until late in the game
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Nov 10, 2021 17:18
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I made a new player guide for FF5PR
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Nov 10, 2021 17:19
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Tonfa posted:I made a new player guide for FF5PR I mean, it's pretty accurate I have to admit.  I'll probably wind up maxing everything at some point anyway, I always tend to min-max in FF games eventually.
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Nov 10, 2021 17:22
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Harrow posted:I definitely don't think Bravely Default 2 is terrible or even bad, it just didn't click with me for some reason. I should go back and try it again sometime. Yeah I’m with Harrow here. I wouldn’t say “don’t play it”, it’s fine. I guess.
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Nov 10, 2021 17:26
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Tonfa posted:I made a new player guide for FF5PR I pity anyone that doesn't get the satisfaction of coming to the spellblade/barrage/dual wield conclusion on their own
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Nov 10, 2021 17:29
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Has anyone beaten Gogo outside of the intended way?
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Nov 10, 2021 17:35
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pretty soft girl posted:I pity anyone that doesn't get the satisfaction of coming to the spellblade/barrage/dual wield conclusion on their own One day SE will get off their rear end and enable me to be able to two-hand bells
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Nov 10, 2021 17:38
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jokes posted:One day SE will get off their rear end and enable me to be able to two-hand bells Now I'm imagining someone doing the maracas, but bells.
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jokes posted:FFV is not fine, it’s perfect and beautiful and if you look closely you will find that it is the best FF that isn’t FF14 But FF14 isn't a real Final Fantasy, so doesn't that mean FF5 is actually the best?
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Nov 10, 2021 17:40
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I can fathom making a 2D pixel game, or a pre-rendered isometric game, but who make a pre-rendered third-person game in this day and age?
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Nov 10, 2021 17:45
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DourCricket posted:But FF14 isn't a real Final Fantasy 
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DourCricket posted:But FF14 isn't a real Final Fantasy, so doesn't that mean FF5 is actually the best? I do not know what criteria would cause you to come to such an incorrect conclusion, and I will not cast aspersions on you, my fellow final fantasy poster. But FF14 is, actually, the best Final Fantasy. FF5 is only the best Final Fantasy if you say “non-MMO FF” but to deny that FF14 is a real FF? My friend have you seen how many red feathered hats are in the game? Gunblades? Airships? Next you’re gonna tell me Type-0 is a mainline final fantasy entry because it’s single player, numbered, and isn’t a spin-off/sequel.
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Nov 10, 2021 17:47
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pretty soft girl posted:I pity anyone that doesn't get the satisfaction of coming to the spellblade/barrage/dual wield conclusion on their own Dissidia might have a dumpster fire story but it also had all kinds of deep cuts like Bartz’s ultimate attack being literally just that. I still can’t believe they put !Rapid Fire in the game as is, like yeah !Spellblade can poo poo damage if you know elemental weaknesses but them just going “oh you mastered Archer, here, have this attack that does four half damage hits, never misses unless it’s the final boss that has dummy targets (iirc) and pierces defense” because I’m pretty sure most job mastery skills suuuuuuuck even in a vacuum. Not that I’m complaining, don’t get me wrong, just surprised they were willing to walk back knives but not that.
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Nov 10, 2021 17:48
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jokes posted:My friend have you seen how many red feathered hats are in the game? This is the only argument with real weight as far as I'm concerned that FF14 is, indeed, a real Final Fantasy.
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Nov 10, 2021 17:50
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Bravely Default 2 is the best BD game simply because it doesn't have the disgusting womanizing of the first game or the astronomical levels of anime cringe that Bravely Second had. I'd put it as a must play for anyone that's a fan of the job system FF games.
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Nov 10, 2021 17:52
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Outside of Monk, Summoner, and Thief most High-end Job abilities suck. +10% MP? gently caress off.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Has anyone beaten Gogo outside of the intended way? I've beaten Gogo the intended way with quadzerkers  I stole the Gold Hairpin from him at the same time. Truly the way god intended https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl7aqoJheFE
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