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Vashro
May 12, 2004

Proud owner of Lazy Lion #46
I think I have greatly underestimated both how much peoples internet avatar means to them and how much extra money people have

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A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

zedprime posted:

But also most people would never need to resell a house they are living in, yet *gesticulates wildly at the market*

I don't think function enters into half the things people do with money these days.

We've got entire towns around the DC beltway composed of giant multimillion-dollar mansions striving doctors and lawyers buy up to pretend they're old-money aristocracy, only to inevitably go bankrupt after 2-3 years of trying to keep up the lifestyle and sell it on to the next chump who cares more about keeping up appearances than keeping a roof over their head

NFT picrew chimps are a long, long way from having that kind of veneer of respectability but I suppose that's what the really aggressive campaign to inject them into the fine art world is all about

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Vashro posted:

I think I have greatly underestimated both how much peoples internet avatar means to them and how much extra money people have

Tech people, mostly

Nybble
Jun 28, 2008

praise chuck, raise heck
I wonder how the Crypto Kitties are doing

so strange that the price will deflate again, then in two years people will be hyping up some other dumb animal to bring it back up once more

Nybble fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Nov 12, 2021

Sunk Dunk
Apr 14, 2021

LanceHunter posted:

Decoration, or to flex hard by having "On loan from the (rich family) collection" on a plaque next to the artwork in the local museum. And, occasionally, it's just to support an artist you think is cool. I remember this news piece on this couple of NYC who weren't really rich, but didn't have any kids and so they had enough extra money to find up-and-coming artists they liked and so they were often the first people to buy art from artists who would later go on to be massive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec7LeGgc2Do

Apparently there was a documentary about when they finally gave all their art away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQTDgowxcVY

these guys rock

bollig
Apr 7, 2006

Never Forget.
https://mobile.twitter.com/PrestonPysh/status/1459208777551519751

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

but what does it mean

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Clearly it means that Bitcoin is full of corruption and manipulation and has been filling itself up with it this whole time

and there’s plenty more!

SRQ
Nov 9, 2009

how high are the chances that evergrande actually sinks coining.

china accidentally stumbling backwards into being an environmental hero by killing off coining would be amazing.

drk
Jan 16, 2005

SRQ posted:

how high are the chances that evergrande actually sinks coining.

I'd say that the odds of Tether being able to pay out in the event of a run on their reserves is unchanged at 0%

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

drk posted:

I'd say that the odds of Tether being able to pay out in the event of a run on their reserves is unchanged at 0%

Tether doesn't promise any payout at all, so there won't be any run on "their reserves". Whether Tether is backed by anything at all is entirely irrelevant.

SRQ
Nov 9, 2009

drk posted:

I'd say that the odds of Tether being able to pay out in the event of a run on their reserves is unchanged at 0%

but would it cause a run? like i love the idea of evergrande collapsign the house of cards but how realistic is that.

drk
Jan 16, 2005
The point is it doesnt matter whether they hold Evergrande or any other specific debt. They aren't going to pay out anything more than trivial redemption requests.

Tether's actual customers (of which there are only a few) have proven that they dont care because they are probably getting Tether for pennies on the dollar, in exchange for crypto, or in exchange for debt they issue themselves.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Again, Tether doesn't promise any payout of anything. You're getting your dollars from other people willing to buy Tether believing them to be worth that.

ChronoBasher
Jul 2, 2007

Block time does not equal settlement time.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

abigserve posted:

Why's it all monkeys? Why do they all look like dogshit?

Because I could believe that "Waifu Jizz" was a scam.

drk
Jan 16, 2005
There are inflows to Tether:



Its not clear exactly what these inflows represent - it could be customers paying interest, paying off debt, or it could be for some sort of redemption.

from an otherwise long article about Tether flows that isnt too interesting if you've been following: https://protos.com/tether-papers-crypto-stablecoin-usdt-investigation-analysis/

snorch
Jul 27, 2009
I don't see how so many people are still using bit coin when pretty much all other crypto currencies suck way less in pretty much every way.

small butter
Oct 8, 2011

snorch posted:

I don't see how so many people are still using bit coin when pretty much all other crypto currencies suck way less in pretty much every way.

"Using" Bitcoin is a stretch. Almost no one uses it and since pretty much all coins are pointless, it's obvious that it's all about hype. I mean, take a look at Doge's or SHIB's ROI and their top 10 status.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

small butter posted:

"Using" Bitcoin is a stretch. Almost no one uses it and since pretty much all coins are pointless, it's obvious that it's all about hype. I mean, take a look at Doge's or SHIB's ROI and their top 10 status.

Remember that time that you used cryptocurrency to buy anything?

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost
not through a secondary buyer. When you bought it with crypto by itself.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

Remember that time that you used cryptocurrency to buy anything?

"Different crypto. Check mate :smug:"

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Mans posted:

"Different crypto. Check mate :smug:"

loving loser

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Nybble posted:

I wonder how the Crypto Kitties are doing

so strange that the price will deflate again, then in two years people will be hyping up some other dumb animal to bring it back up once more

This is another thing I hate about Internet culture, everything is a god drat memey name.

Like do these do these coinbros really expect theyre going to have a shadowy cigar pot smoking conspiracy illuminate meeting in the future, and think that going "Hail Kitty Ape Jizz" is a cool movie scene? No class.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

PhazonLink posted:

This is another thing I hate about Internet culture, everything is a god drat memey name.

Like do these do these coinbros really expect theyre going to have a shadowy cigar pot smoking conspiracy illuminate meeting in the future, and think that going "Hail Kitty Ape Jizz" is a cool movie scene? No class.


Mumpy Puffinz posted:

loving loser

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

So something I don't understand...
Say I 'buy' Scammy Monkey #31415A. A token that says "https://scams.com/stupidmonkey.jpg" is created and forevially blockchainised, meaning that at any point in the future I can reference the blockchain to prove that I own the token. It is technologically impossible for anyone to alter this. I can then point to the fact that https://scams.com/stupidmonkey.jpg loads a picture of Scammy Money #31415A to 'prove' that I own Scammy Money #31415A.
BUT...
This is entirely dependant on the whims of whoever owns the scams.com domain. Say the intern goes in and swaps the filenames so that https://scams.com/stupidmonkey.jpg now loads an image of Scammy Monkey #3453C and Scammy Money #31415A is now located at https://scams.com/idiotmonkey.jpg . Me and the other monkey owner have effectively swapped which monkeys we 'own'. Teal dear: scammy monkey ownership is actually entirely dependant on a central database controlled by a single person. So what is the blockchain bit actually contributing to this? Why not have it be database entries and not need to 'spend ether' do do things?

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

The Lone Badger posted:

So something I don't understand...
Say I 'buy' Scammy Monkey #31415A. A token that says "https://scams.com/stupidmonkey.jpg" is created and forevially blockchainised, meaning that at any point in the future I can reference the blockchain to prove that I own the token. It is technologically impossible for anyone to alter this. I can then point to the fact that https://scams.com/stupidmonkey.jpg loads a picture of Scammy Money #31415A to 'prove' that I own Scammy Money #31415A.
BUT...
This is entirely dependant on the whims of whoever owns the scams.com domain. Say the intern goes in and swaps the filenames so that https://scams.com/stupidmonkey.jpg now loads an image of Scammy Monkey #3453C and Scammy Money #31415A is now located at https://scams.com/idiotmonkey.jpg . Me and the other monkey owner have effectively swapped which monkeys we 'own'. Teal dear: scammy monkey ownership is actually entirely dependant on a central database controlled by a single person. So what is the blockchain bit actually contributing to this? Why not have it be database entries and not need to 'spend ether' do do things?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9jXnZS3ouU

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


The Lone Badger posted:

So something I don't understand...
Say I 'buy' Scammy Monkey #31415A. A token that says "https://scams.com/stupidmonkey.jpg" is created and forevially blockchainised, meaning that at any point in the future I can reference the blockchain to prove that I own the token. It is technologically impossible for anyone to alter this. I can then point to the fact that https://scams.com/stupidmonkey.jpg loads a picture of Scammy Money #31415A to 'prove' that I own Scammy Money #31415A.
BUT...
This is entirely dependant on the whims of whoever owns the scams.com domain. Say the intern goes in and swaps the filenames so that https://scams.com/stupidmonkey.jpg now loads an image of Scammy Monkey #3453C and Scammy Money #31415A is now located at https://scams.com/idiotmonkey.jpg . Me and the other monkey owner have effectively swapped which monkeys we 'own'. Teal dear: scammy monkey ownership is actually entirely dependant on a central database controlled by a single person. So what is the blockchain bit actually contributing to this? Why not have it be database entries and not need to 'spend ether' do do things?

That's exactly right. One artist actually made an NFT that would render as a giant turd when sold through something similar to the method you noted, but the main NFT listing website blacklisted him because threatening to pull the curtain back on the whole scam. Since the whole "decentralized" ecosystem uses the APIs of that one website this effectively banned him from selling the NFT lol.

The blockchain bit is there to obfuscate exactly what you stated was a problem.

Having it in a database would work better on all fronts except it would make it harder for anyone everywhere to gamble on the values by buying and selling the database entries.

Shifty Pony fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Nov 13, 2021

novamute
Jul 5, 2006

o o o

The Lone Badger posted:

So something I don't understand...
Say I 'buy' Scammy Monkey #31415A. A token that says "https://scams.com/stupidmonkey.jpg" is created and forevially blockchainised, meaning that at any point in the future I can reference the blockchain to prove that I own the token. It is technologically impossible for anyone to alter this. I can then point to the fact that https://scams.com/stupidmonkey.jpg loads a picture of Scammy Money #31415A to 'prove' that I own Scammy Money #31415A.
BUT...
This is entirely dependant on the whims of whoever owns the scams.com domain. Say the intern goes in and swaps the filenames so that https://scams.com/stupidmonkey.jpg now loads an image of Scammy Monkey #3453C and Scammy Money #31415A is now located at https://scams.com/idiotmonkey.jpg . Me and the other monkey owner have effectively swapped which monkeys we 'own'. Teal dear: scammy monkey ownership is actually entirely dependant on a central database controlled by a single person. So what is the blockchain bit actually contributing to this? Why not have it be database entries and not need to 'spend ether' do do things?

NFTs that are hosted on centralized servers have this problem yes. If hosted on IPFS the image can disappear but it can't change because the address is just a hash of the content.

Edit: to be clear, a lot of these projects are actually just hosted out of an S3 bucket or something because it's simpler and they are usually just trying to get this stuff pumped out as fast as possible

novamute fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Nov 13, 2021

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

busalover posted:

actually yeah why isn't that a thing. loli poo poo must do gang-busters. but wait no then you can't show it off to your friends & the world.

Didn’t stop Jared from Subway bringing up how sexy 14yr-old girls are to strangers and extras on Subway commercial shoots. He got extremely graphic about it to grown men and women he’d never met before as like small talk.

:allears:“So inspiring to lose so much weight, Jared…”

:aatrek:“Not as inspiring as (whatever)!”

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

Remember that time that you used cryptocurrency to buy anything?

No. Neither does anybody else.

The Sausages
Sep 30, 2012

What do you want to do? Who do you want to be?
It's ok everyone they're finally going to fix bitcoin!


by which I mean the cartel of miners that functionally control the platform is making it even more suitable for money laundering, and also adding NFT capabilities. But I repeat myself

SmartCunt
Feb 10, 2005
hey whats up
Holy poo poo, this thread is a hilarious time capsule of self-righteous closed-mindedness. I wonder what it will look like in another 4 years. HFSP

RIP Lowtax

SRQ
Nov 9, 2009

SmartCunt posted:

Holy poo poo, this thread is a hilarious time capsule of self-righteous closed-mindedness. I wonder what it will look like in another 4 years. HFSP

RIP Lowtax

lol

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

SmartCunt posted:

Holy poo poo, this thread is a hilarious time capsule of self-righteous closed-mindedness. I wonder what it will look like in another 4 years. HFSP

RIP Lowtax

Well your name is at least half accurate.

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

SmartCunt posted:

Holy poo poo, this thread is a hilarious time capsule of self-righteous closed-mindedness. I wonder what it will look like in another 4 years. HFSP

RIP Lowtax

:emptyquote:

Desperado Bones
Aug 29, 2009

Cute, adorable, and creepy at the same time!


Marvel entertainment did another NFT but now with a *~Female empowerment*~ NFT scammer.

Art looks like poo poo.
Crypto bros are in the comments pretending to be *~empowered females~*
And it's like a fuckton of sock puppet accounts repeating the same rehearsed cult sounding lines.

At least I got to block a bunch of them.

Prurient Squid
Jul 21, 2008

Tiddy cat Buddha improving your day.
Human Frontier Science Program?

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Desperado Bones posted:

Marvel entertainment did another NFT but now with a *~Female empowerment*~ NFT scammer.

Art looks like poo poo.
Crypto bros are in the comments pretending to be *~empowered females~*
And it's like a fuckton of sock puppet accounts repeating the same rehearsed cult sounding lines.

At least I got to block a bunch of them.

Blockchains full of women

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Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

I can't keep a blockchain in my freezer

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