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I'm wondering how many containers full of Platinum Jubilee tat have been ordered and are already slowboating their way over from China. The poundshops are going to be full of them for years.
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Soylent Yellow posted:I'm wondering how many containers full of Platinum Jubilee tat have been ordered and are already slowboating their way over from China. The poundshops are going to be full of them for years. If I was importing these and she pops her clogs while my stuff is still making it way through the Suez Canal I'd definitely destroy all but like ten of the wall-display plates that play God Save The Queen every hour on the hour, wait a couple of years, and flog them to collectors for a couple of grand apiece.
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https://twitter.com/hannahITV/status/1459914749706125316 What the gently caress? e: Other posts with photos seem to suggest if there was an "explosion" it was tiny: https://twitter.com/Lili_P_EFC/status/1459910669638246413 Possibly just a car fire with the reported explosion being the tyres/bumpers/fuel tank cooking off. Still horrible and grim but a bit less horrifying than the idea of someone actually trying to bomb a hospital. goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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Nov 14, 2021 17:08
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Kew anon, surely? Queen-anon
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I would not be surprised to find, with the way the press is and us being on the cusp of trans visibility week, if some crazed terfling saw an unusually tall woman go in there and decided to protect womens spaces by blowing one up.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Also how the *gently caress* do people browse YT without an adblocker? No sane person does.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Kew anon, surely? I did the beavis and butthead laugh at this just so you know.
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Just Another Lurker posted:No sane person does. Not for long, anyway.
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josh04 posted:"This is what Princess Diana said we are all waiting for" is some primo Brit-anon, right? Here in the UK we call it queue-Anon E: drat I was beat 
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Oh goody. Government flailing? Let's throw a war party. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/nov/14/uk-must-be-ready-for-war-with-russia-says-armed-forces-chief quote:The outgoing head of the UK’s armed forces has said the military will have to be ready for war with Russia after recent tensions in eastern Europe, but he does not believe Vladimir Putin really wants “hot war” with the west.    
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do these bellends just keep forgetting Russia has nukes, who cares about our lovely army? If a war with Russia goes hot it's over
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*grabbing the waiters sleeve* excude me my good man, this gazpacho war does not appear to have been adequately heated
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Who had "start a war with Russia during winter" down as Johnson's distraction from the corruption?
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i can just see these nasty little neoliberal nerds getting all excited at the fabled Nato/Russia conventional war, promised them by Tom Clancy.
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Guavanaut posted:Who had "start a war with Russia during winter" down as Johnson's distraction from the corruption? It's a traditional fascist tactic.
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Wanted Tom Clancy. Got Tom Lehrer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frAEmhqdLFs
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Regarde Aduck posted:do these bellends just keep forgetting Russia has nukes, who cares about our lovely army? I don't think nukes work the way you think they work. Nuclear-armed states have been at war with each other more or less constantly since 1945, they've just found ways of doing it at arms length to pretend they're not fighting each other to get the nukes involved. It's not like there's a Dead Hand that's programmed to unleash 500 megatons at us the moment it detects residue of Biscuits Brown in Sevastopol.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I don't think nukes work the way you think they work. Nuclear-armed states have been at war with each other more or less constantly since 1945, they've just found ways of doing it at arms length to pretend they're not fighting each other to get the nukes involved. It's not like there's a Dead Hand that's programmed to unleash 500 megatons at us the moment it detects residue of Biscuits Brown in Sevastopol. Of course not. Whether they're in the Crimea or the colon, it's Biscuits Fruit that trigger armageddon.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Biscuits Brown. Is this like, rhyming slang for blackhawk down or something?
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Russia's not nuking anyone. They've successfully taken out their enemies on British soil several times in the last decade with no consequences, just ask the people of Salisbury. After the first half a dozen senior politicians, military commanders and royals mysteriously die, Britain will declare victory and announce that, in a shocking twist, it turns out that Putin is in fact next in line to the British throne. All Hail King Vladimir I!
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It's going to be like that ww2 aircraft damage study, only we're going to have all the Boris Johnson and Liz Trusses survive while the anyone remotely intelligent will mysteriously sicken...
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Mebh posted:Is this like, rhyming slang for blackhawk down or something? I was assuming army rations.
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So are people living in East Ham called East Hamsters? Cos I am one now. No longer 
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feedmegin posted:So are people living in East Ham called East Hamsters? Cos I am one now. No longer Maybe the East Hamish?
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Eastern Hamites, but you have to be careful people don't think you're some sort of German caliper weirdo when you use it.
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feedmegin posted:So are people living in East Ham called East Hamsters? Cos I am one now. No longer The Hammerites. All hail to the Master Builder.
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feedmegin posted:So are people living in East Ham called East Hamsters? Cos I am one now. No longer You know the question has never come up because nobody's ever talked long enough about East Ham to need to shorten it.
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Just realized something. Do the British know why Eastern Europe has a tradition of putting rugs up on the walls?
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I would assume the same reason everywhere used to have that tradition, which is cos the walls are loving cold and also nobody has invented wallpaper or cavity wall insulation yet. I thought everywhere that built out of stone put rugs on the walls.
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radmonger posted:What this analysis ignores is the existence of the middle class, who have both wealth and wages. So what their interests actually _are_ is subject to analysis, debate and even persuasion. Since Thatcher, they mostly side with capital, largely because unearned money is sweeter than money you have to leave the house to get. There's 3 major points to your argument here and I don't think I really agree with them: 1) That the middle class (defined as holding significant wealth but also living from wages) predominantly votes based around a balancing of their class interests which has meant they favour Tory policy since the 80s. 2) That the middle class so defined decide election results. 3) That an elected government in the UK has 'pretty much unlimited power'. The first point supposes that Tory policy materially benefits small wealth holders, arousing their favour and getting their votes, and I don't think that really bares out. Tory propaganda projects itself as the party of business appealing to our nation of shopkeepers but policywise it only helps big business and even when it offers some benefits to smaller companies it's delivered in a form that similar benefits are also passed onto larger operations. IR35 implementation, UC limitations on payments to the self employed after a year, the pandemic aid schemes completely loving over small businesses and the self employed, the deliberately created dominance of the finance sector in the economy, no protections for high streets or policy on independant shops all mean a serious lack of actual support for any small wealth holders over decades with the except of housing, which is a non-productive asset and even the initial asset infusion from selling council houses is now gone as most have been sold onto landlords rather than occupants. Small wealthholding voters might feel better under Tory governments but they certainly won't be richer because of it. So either housing is so massive influential that it carries the tides of elections with it (honestly a pretty reasonable position but one which should ring serious alarm bells to any group intent on building a functioning, improving society as landlordism and economies based on non-productive assets is a regressive and destructive instinct even to liberal thought) or there's a broader social force which pulls those votes in time after time - nationalism being the obvious candidate. In either case winning an argument around MMT is likely to be ineffective about winning them over as it will tackle landlordism and the domination of personal wealth as it attempts to move more of the social product into the hands of labour rather than capital or there are other historical forces which will be uneffected by them. Second point, that small wealth holders decide elections. According to Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy there's only about 1.4 million SME owners with employees which would indicate the owner also having notable capital rather than much larger group (4.6M) without employees - the intellectual middle class of lawyers, accountants, etc and those working construction who are labourers but are involved in tax dodging either on their own or their employers part which doesn't give a strong an indication of their wealth. Now that is a reasonably large chunk of the electorate (assuming they all vote and all vote tory) but is heavily weighted to London and the south of England which generally aren't battleground seats. Blair might have cobbled together a massive coalition of the middle class and the rest of the working class in 1997 but implementing the New Labour manifesto has destroyed Labours core voter working class base ever since and it seems that that move, losing them Scotland particularly, which has doomed them electorally ever since. Even if homeownership in general, 23 million households or so, is taken as the primary force driving voting patterns (not unreasonably) then the issue is the same as on the first point - it's a non-productive asset which only sucks in money, there's bugger all that can be done except for fighting it as it's bad economics, even for the property holders. Thirdly, the government does not sit supremely above society creating divine laws, it is a powerful entity yes but by two means - that of legal process (seem as moral and correct) and of force. Both can be challenged and used to defeat a government when the opposition to them is strong enough so merely holding state power does not give total control. Class society, with all its own wills and powers, exists well outside of the state. A leftwing government in the UK must then continue to fight the will of the CBI, the Murdoch press, the WTO, the US military, etc to achieve its goals so it must come into power on the back of an irrestiable wave of support and the lukewarm chipping away of power through increased buying power of labour and decreased returns on assets is completely sound logically as a long term plan and very uninspiring politically. So in conclusion, MMT might well be sound in terms of economic management, it's not a political rallying cry. It's not a key to winning over an important voting bloc nor will it inspire a powerful movement demanding it. Save it for technical discussions amongst comrades rather than arguments and recruiting. 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endlessmonotony posted:Just realized something. No... why?
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I never know if this account is real news or not, but holy poo poo if it is. Someone was seriously going to blow up a maternity hospital? https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1460006875815161858
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OwlFancier posted:I would assume the same reason everywhere used to have that tradition, which is cos the walls are loving cold and also nobody has invented wallpaper or cavity wall insulation yet. Pretty close, additional insulation is definitely a part of it. But it's also to create a warm room because you can't afford fuel to heat the entire house.
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endlessmonotony posted:Just realized something. So that when you shoot the eye with your hook shot and it rotates the corridor you still have something to walk on
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I don't think nukes work the way you think they work. Nuclear-armed states have been at war with each other more or less constantly since 1945, they've just found ways of doing it at arms length to pretend they're not fighting each other to get the nukes involved. It's not like there's a Dead Hand that's programmed to unleash 500 megatons at us the moment it detects residue of Biscuits Brown in Sevastopol. Look at this guy who is not familiar with the works of CIA Station chief, Hot Coldman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r9nEdkKWks
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peanut- posted:I never know if this account is real news or not, but holy poo poo if it is. Someone was seriously going to blow up a maternity hospital? Islamic state have been blowing up maternity hospitals since before it was cool. There are some extremely hosed up people out there.
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peanut- posted:I never know if this account is real news or not, but holy poo poo if it is. Someone was seriously going to blow up a maternity hospital?  don't mess w/ taxi drivers m8 
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I know this question has been asked before but I couldn't remember the answer when my friend asked me tonight. She wants to join a union, her workplace isn't unionised. Is it IWW that this thread normally recommends under those circumstances?
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peanut- posted:I never know if this account is real news or not, but holy poo poo if it is. Someone was seriously going to blow up a maternity hospital? loving Hell, what an actual hero if this is true. Did he manage to get out?
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peanut- posted:I never know if this account is real news or not, but holy poo poo if it is. Someone was seriously going to blow up a maternity hospital? This nation owes a debt of gratitude to everyone whose misbehaviour forced taxis to become rolling prisons. Wear your vomit stains with pride, "cleaning surcharge" dodgers.
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