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fart simpson)
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everyone gets one bad take
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Nov 15, 2021 05:12
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lmao
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Nov 15, 2021 05:26
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Mantis42 posted:This is just prologue to the epic Luna Oi v Carl Zha Twitter feud of 2022. 
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Nov 15, 2021 05:29
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as a total aside Xi Jingping's name sounds like the name of a C&C general
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Nov 15, 2021 05:33
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Mantis42 posted:This is just prologue to the epic Luna Oi v Carl Zha Twitter feud of 2022. I just saw this pop up btw 
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Nov 15, 2021 05:35
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When America collapses into civil war in like 2027, Luna Oi is going to become the vietnamese brace beldon
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Nov 15, 2021 05:36
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Blarghalt posted:When America collapses into civil war in like 2027, Luna Oi is going to become the vietnamese brace beldon I hope the CPC recruits the CPUSA to start an ML state in the ruins of this shithole like they did with Myanmar https://www.cpusa.org/article/china-and-u-s-cp-leaders-meet/
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Nov 15, 2021 05:47
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If any leftist group actually manages to seize power in this country, it's going to be a group of extremely pissed off zoomers that will make mao look like a loving evangelical republican
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Nov 15, 2021 05:54
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mawarannahr posted:I just saw this pop up btw also there's a genre of patriotic vietnamese socialist pop music. i've probably posted it before but the second video is fun because it shows U.S. marines getting dropped like imperial stormtroopers as these chicks with AKs give it a thumbs up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iBGtYvaJMY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLffUfT8M_A
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Nov 15, 2021 05:55
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FrancisFukyomama posted:I hope the CPC recruits the CPUSA to start an ML state in the ruins of this shithole like they did with Myanmar https://www.cpusa.org/article/china-and-u-s-cp-leaders-meet/ On one hand, most of their members are undercover feds, on the other hand their take on the hammer and sickle is so loving cool
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Nov 15, 2021 06:15
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Blarghalt posted:everyone gets one bad take He's had a few , though he's still on the positive side of things. But he should at least avoid platforming Kissinger's living corpse and other such nonsense.
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Nov 15, 2021 06:20
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/14/china/china-border-closure-inward-turn-dst-intl-hnk/index.html COVID cope might be my very favorite brand of anti China propaganda. "COVID has made the Chinese people hate the west, not because it provided undeniable evidence of western governments' incompetence and callousness, but because of how terribly isolated they are"
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Nov 15, 2021 07:40
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Western countries literally don't know how to deal with being held to standards
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Nov 15, 2021 07:49
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Western countries literally don't know how to deal with being held to standards they are the quintessential masters of the double ones
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Nov 15, 2021 07:57
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Lost Time posted:He's had a few , though he's still on the positive side of things. But he should at least avoid platforming Kissinger's living corpse and other such nonsense. Kissinger fills a weird place in respect to China, there's still a sense of reverence to his statesmanship from what I understand. At least that's the impression I got from my Chinese history professor, his role in the reform and opening up has been a major factor in his more positive reception.
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Nov 15, 2021 08:36
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my bony fealty posted:Vietnam...a lifetime bitch Lifetime bitch or... holder of the triple crown of beating three UN-security-council-permanent-member-nuclear-powers in succession? And then getting rid of US-supported Pol Pot for good measure.
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Nov 15, 2021 09:28
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:It was the extra bad version One boomer single-handedly blunted the effectiveness of the US sub fleet doing more damage then any foreign agency could dream of because she thought that vital metallurgy tests she was specifically employed to make were "stupid" Just the worst generation.
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Nov 15, 2021 11:10
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Sabotaging the US sub-fleet is good, actually. So perhaps the best generation?
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Nov 15, 2021 11:56
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The US sub fleet is older than a lot of people think, a lot of it was built in the 1980s (some of even before she took the job). The Ohio class, our ocean going nuclear deterrent started being built in the mid 1970s and the Los Angeles class (most of our attack fleet) came out slightly earlier. The irony is she worked at that job for 30 years+ but still only affected our newest ships just because our fleet is that drat old. Of course, the older vessels will have to decommissioned because of metal fatigue anyway, but it is ironic. It is also the US’ technological advantage when it comes to the Russians/Chinese isn’t as much as one may think, if anything they are coming out with subs better than most of our fleet. The substandard steel being used is just a cherry on top. It is really fleet carriers where the US still shines, but the Nimitz class itself is 40+ years old. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 12:46 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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Nov 15, 2021 12:41
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30.5 Days posted:https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/14/china/china-border-closure-inward-turn-dst-intl-hnk/index.html
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Nov 15, 2021 12:42
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Blarghalt posted:everyone gets one bad take i dont know why anyone would expect him to denounce his government on such a highly contentious issue of geopolitics. the whole vietnam-china relationship has centuries of very emotional disputes of national identity and all that. like as in, you wouldnt exactly expect many finns to denounce the winter war and its continuation, especially if they were working at the national news agency
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Nov 15, 2021 14:01
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I can't believe Chen refused to read my manifesto declaring the Fulan Gong as the sole legitimate government of China
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Nov 15, 2021 14:14
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lollontee posted:i dont know why anyone would expect him to denounce his government on such a highly contentious issue of geopolitics. the whole vietnam-china relationship has centuries of very emotional disputes of national identity and all that. like as in, you wouldnt exactly expect many finns to denounce the winter war and its continuation, especially if they were working at the national news agency I would say more than the Sino-Vietnam relationship itself, that war, in particular, was more complex than most people give it credit for. The Chinese saw the Vietnamese as a Soviet proxy (Americans never acknowledge this) and the month-long conflict as a skirmish in the broader Cold War. (Granted, Americans also have officially declared Vietnam its "ally" even though the Vietnamese have kept their distance.)
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Nov 15, 2021 14:17
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Ardennes posted:I would say more than the Sino-Vietnam relationship itself, that war, in particular, was more complex than most people give it credit for. The Chinese saw the Vietnamese as a Soviet proxy (Americans never acknowledge this) and the month-long conflict as a skirmish in the broader Cold War. exactly, and in broader terms the whole sino-soviet split is a completely ignored subject in the west in general. like, i always have to remind people i talk to about the fact, because nobody except very old people even remember it happen
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Nov 15, 2021 14:24
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lollontee posted:exactly, and in broader terms the whole sino-soviet split is a completely ignored subject in the west in general. like, i always have to remind people i talk to about the fact, because nobody except very old people even remember it happen Not many people I speak to in China know much about it for that matter. Seems to be strictly a topic for history nerds. Relationship with Russia is very much framed in terms of the present day, as a somewhat unreliable ally against mutual enemies.
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Nov 15, 2021 14:30
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lollontee posted:exactly, and in broader terms the whole sino-soviet split is a completely ignored subject in the west in general. like, i always have to remind people i talk to about the fact, because nobody except very old people even remember it happen Well, it is just about re-writing history to serve whatever narrative at the moment. No one really cared about that war 10-15 years ago when China was just keeping quiet and making sneakers. Of course, we ignore our own involvement in the conflict such as the fact we were obviously backing the Khmer Rouge at the time. Anyway, Vietnam is doing the smart thing at the moment while generally working with China economically while keeping its military options open by buying Russian arms. They know that saddling up with the US isn't worth it and that with the ratification of the RCEP, the PRC going to be the unquestionably dominant economic force in Asia. Atopian posted:Not many people I speak to in China know much about it for that matter. Seems to be strictly a topic for history nerds. Relationship with Russia is very much framed in terms of the present day, as a somewhat unreliable ally against mutual enemies. From what I have seen online, I would say average Chinese net citizens are absolutely more positive about the Chinese-Russian relationship than Russians are. There seems to be at least some positive memories of Sino-Soviet cooperation during the 1950s, while Russians are very much stuck in a hard xenophobic rut at this point. The xenophobia in Moscow in 2021 (aimed at central Asians usually inclusive of other Asians) is unquestionably the worst I have seen it. That said, at the state level, Sino-Russo relations seem pretty solid, both military cooperation and trade both seem to be steadily growing. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 15:26 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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Nov 15, 2021 14:37
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 https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1460250756515303428?s=20
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Nov 15, 2021 15:21
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Chamale posted:In case you missed it, this is a hilarious crack-ping from the Doomsday Economics thread's China derail. drat forgot to click on this thread over the weekend and missed out the party.
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Nov 15, 2021 16:05
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Ardennes posted:I would say more than the Sino-Vietnam relationship itself, that war, in particular, was more complex than most people give it credit for. The Chinese saw the Vietnamese as a Soviet proxy (Americans never acknowledge this) and the month-long conflict as a skirmish in the broader Cold War. some of the most educative and highly interesting posts of this thread I've read are about it (and much appreciated, ty) the CPV is one of the most impressive political organizations in the history of the world given how in such a short time frame they managed to do, well, everything they did. Uncle Ho and everybody are badass
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Nov 15, 2021 16:18
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dead gay comedy forums posted:some of the most educative and highly interesting posts of this thread I've read are about it (and much appreciated, ty) Americans in this thread and generally are incapable of understanding in any way Lenin/Clausewitz's whole "Politics is the reason, war is the tool" thing. Since they've never faced any meaningful external enemy, all wars are just video games to them and have no purpose other than brutalizing and killing non-whites. There's also this weird thing where They think Vietnam somehow becomes a third rate backwater after 1976, instead of what it actually was, which was a major regional power with a formidable Soviet backed army that went right into wars of foreign expansion, just as the US had predicted. Chalk this up to the popular American perception that the American war was somehow a guerilla war against South Vietnamese peasants - when it was actually a mostly conventional war against a professional PVA. In contrast, China immediately after the Cultural Revolution had a per-capita GDP that was about the same as Haiti and IIRC significantly less than North Korea.
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Nov 15, 2021 16:47
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thanks for the new desktop background TheAtlantic
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Nov 15, 2021 16:49
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dead gay comedy forums posted:some of the most educative and highly interesting posts of this thread I've read are about it (and much appreciated, ty) im glad vietnam kicked the PRC's rear end
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Nov 15, 2021 17:08
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I'll just come out and say it: Xi really does look like Winnie the Pooh just a little bit i think it's the cheeks
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Nov 15, 2021 17:24
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What the gently caress a communist state is trying to spread communism? This is expansionism and won't stand, better back the cpc so we can get our boy pol pot back in, he's the legitimate ruler after all
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Nov 15, 2021 17:25
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Blarghalt posted:I'll just come out and say it: Xi really does look like Winnie the Pooh just a little bit he totally does look like winnie but i think it's endearing 
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Nov 15, 2021 17:32
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Blarghalt posted:I'll just come out and say it: Xi really does look like Winnie the Pooh just a little bit oh bother
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Nov 15, 2021 17:34
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wanna pinch those peoples' cheeks
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Nov 15, 2021 17:35
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Belt and Roo 
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Nov 15, 2021 17:38
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Ardennes posted:our ocean going nuclear deterrent nope!
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Nov 15, 2021 18:06
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The Russians will pay.
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Nov 15, 2021 18:27
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