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The word 'terrorism' was originally defined as "violence perpetrated by a government” to describe revolutionary France. e: 59AD: Rioting breaks out between the people of Pompeii and the people of Nuceria during a gladiator fight in Pompeii. Thousands are killed.
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radmonger posted:True, in the same sense that neither does genocide or rape. Oh give over e: This former supermodel lady turned absolutely insane turbo tankie is now going full 'taliban are good actually', jfc https://twitter.com/SameeraKhan/status/1460663496295821321?s=20 Whenever I look at these people I think I really should probably pick a side one way or the other, I'm getting tired of being accused of being on the CIA payroll by people with anime profile pics while also being called a tankie war crime-enjoyer by centrists. I guess I have to choose which is less egregious though - 'Long Live Bashar Al-Assad, the Lion of Syria', or 'Xi Jinping literally drinks the blood of Uyghur children with his cornflakes in the morning'. Neither really speak to me if I'm honest. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Nov 17, 2021 |
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A better idea of a neutral term is immigration. Racists see it as an existential threat, normal people see it as neutral or good.
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Boris is starting to lose his voice, is starting to cough and is sniffing too. Is it wrong to enjoy watching him suffer?
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radmonger posted:True, in the same sense that neither does genocide or rape. Tell us more about these genocides and rapes that were actually moral. Provide examples.
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fuctifino posted:Boris is starting to lose his voice, is starting to cough and is sniffing too. it would be morally questionable not to
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I feel like I'd be suffering more just by seeing him full stop(.)
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Nov 17, 2021 17:24
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The UK ruling class distilled into 14 words (not those 14) https://twitter.com/jamesdgreig/status/1460995226668093449
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peanut- posted:The UK ruling class distilled into 14 words (not those 14)
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Nov 17, 2021 17:52
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https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/1460980102053957635 Guess who's to blame for the Lib Dems being enthusiastic cheerleaders for fauxsterity?
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Jedit posted:Tell us more about these genocides and rapes that were actually moral. Provide examples. There are people (some of whom still occasionally post here, and certainly a lot posting on SA) who will enthusiastically and passionately claim that the Holodomor, Great Leap Forward (and even specifically the Four Pests Campaign) and the multiple war crimes committed by the Red Army as they moved west were, in fact, perfectly moral. Not merely understandable mistakes, or regrettable but necessary acts for a greater good, but literally that they were good things.
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fuctifino posted:loving lol. Said pic: why both their hands are palpatine purple? i think she could afford to turn up the heating
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Nov 17, 2021 19:09
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Jedit posted:Tell us more about these genocides and rapes that were actually moral. Provide examples. I'll bite: the Haitian revolution You might dispute that it's actually a genocide but it's on Wikipedia's list of top ten best genocides so...
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Jedit posted:Tell us more about these genocides and rapes that were actually moral. Provide examples. You seem to have things backwards. It is difficult, probably impossible, to find such examples precisely because those who choose to do such things are not good moral actors. If they were, they would, by definition, have chosen some other course of action. You have to go into pretty wild and unrealistic hypothetical scenarios for there not to be a better choice available, even allowing for different legitimate goals. But that is a not a matter of moral judgement. Instead, it’s a contingent fact about the way the world works; wild and unrealistic things very rarely happen. Whereas bad people making bad choices is not exactly rare.
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What's the difference between something being "difficult, probably impossible to find examples of" and something being not true?
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and if moral judgements don't rest on "contingent facts about...the world" what do they rest on?
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crispix posted:why both their hands are palpatine purple? You'd think so, and yet https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/queen-tried-to-use-state-poverty-fund-to-heat-buckingham-palace-2088179.html
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radmonger posted:You seem to have things backwards. It is difficult, probably impossible, to find such examples precisely because those who choose to do such things are not good moral actors. If they were, they would, by definition, have chosen some other course of action. Almost every single person who has ever used force to oppose the political status quo has been designated a terrorist by the authorities at the time, and many of them have used tactics that are recognisable terrorist tactics. It's pretty absurd to claim that every single one of them was a 'bad person', whatever that means, and completely asinine to compare 'terrorism' as a concept with something like rape.
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Nov 17, 2021 19:26
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fuctifino posted:Boris is starting to lose his voice, is starting to cough and is sniffing too. I still have a picture of Dominic Cummings leaving No.10 last xmas as the wallpaper on my laptop, revel in the suffering of unworthy politicians.
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Nov 17, 2021 19:32
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Just Another Lurker posted:Dominic Cummings leaving No.10
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Just Another Lurker posted:I still have a picture of Dominic Cummings leaving No.10 last xmas as the wallpaper on my laptop, revel in the suffering of unworthy politicians. That's some sicko poo poo, why would you want to look at CumDom that often
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Nice clip, my pic was the one of him with being ushered out the front door at night carrying his belongings in a box, it's quite festive tbh. 
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radmonger posted:by definition, i.e. that your original statement is false Almost as if you don't actually believe it & just feel like arguing (badly) about semantics
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peanut- posted:The UK ruling class distilled into 14 words (not those 14)  Yes she's a notorious child molester but I did get to watch her dry hump my brother.
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Nov 17, 2021 20:23
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I refuse to believe that that isn't satire
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Nov 17, 2021 20:25
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https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/nov/17/geordie-greig-ousted-as-editor-of-the-daily-mail Presumably this is bad for Jeremy Corbyn
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Nov 17, 2021 20:27
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Rustybear posted:and if moral judgements don't rest on "contingent facts about...the world" what do they rest on? Understanding the difference between good things and bad things; a necessary evil is still an evil. For example, the Haitian revolution was in 1793, with full independence following various wars in 1803, and the systematic massacre of French settlers took place in 1804. So by my understanding of the history, the latter cannot have been a necessary part of the former. But either way, the whole massacring white women explicitly so there would not be any future white children does not seem not very nice. One person may have a different understanding of the history. another might say, ‘no, they deserved to die, so their deaths were good, actually’. Those two people, have different views. Even though they both disagree with me, they really should not agree with each other.
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Borrovan posted:I refuse to believe that that isn't satire It's not far off the actual article. quote:It's hard not to feel a batsqueak of pity for Ghislaine Maxwell — 500 days and counting in solitary confinement. I intersected briefly with her at Oxford. As a fresher I wandered into Balliol JCR one day in search of its subsidised breakfast granola-and-Nescafé offering and found a shiny glamazon with naughty eyes holding court astride a table, a high-heeled boot resting on my brother Boris’s thigh. She gave me a pitying glance but I did manage to snag an invite to her party in Headington Hill Hall — even though I wasn't in the same college as her and Boris. I have a memory of her father, Bob, coming out in a towelling robe and telling us all to go home. I’m sure fairweather friends would not reveal they went to a Ghislaine Maxwell party: as Barbara Amiel’s brilliant memoir Friends and Enemies proves, you only know who your real chums are when you’re in the gutter. This is after two paragraphs where she just twats on about how her dog gave birth.
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Has this been posted yet? https://twitter.com/alexandreafonso/status/1460989055362125824?s=19 It takes gently caress all to expose these people as absolute frauds.
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Worth a read if you want to revel in the upcoming self-destruction of The Thing In No 10 John Crace piece: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/17/empty-benches-at-pmqs-amid-fury-at-johnsons-inability-to-do-one-job
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Worth a read if you want to revel in the upcoming self-destruction of The Thing In No 10 Boris doesn't have colleagues, only people he has yet to sacrifice.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Worth a read if you want to revel in the upcoming self-destruction of The Thing In No 10 The Empty rows at PMQ's was very telling. Its normally a huge no no not to show up in force for your leader. I know its all theatre, but thats part of it. The roasting in the committees and stories are just going to go on and on until hes done. A poster earlier said he sounded like poo poo and they're right. He's in full panic meltdown mode.
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radmonger posted:Understanding the difference between good things and bad things; a necessary evil is still an evil. Hi, This didn't happen btw. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...0942_story.html
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Worth a read if you want to revel in the upcoming self-destruction of The Thing In No 10 Interesting that the conversation on second jobs is still framed around an acceptable limit of hours worked. It's a start, but paying an MP say £2291 per hour to write an article could sit happily within that rule while still being incredibly suspect behaviour.
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https://twitter.com/CllrLolhunt/status/1461061297689223175 e: Oops, I thought that was in reply to the BBC article. Here it is: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59320858
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Has anyone retrained in their 40s or later? Seriously unhappy at my current job so am considering an apprenticeship but it's very scary throwing away a permanent job that pays relatively well for something I think i might like but really have no idea.
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Lungboy posted:Has anyone retrained in their 40s or later? Seriously unhappy at my current job so am considering an apprenticeship but it's very scary throwing away a permanent job that pays relatively well for something I think i might like but really have no idea. Out of interest, what kind of apprenticeship are you considering? Is it a tool trade like plumbing or electrician, or something different?
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Good to see corbyn is doing more to oust the tories than his successor still.
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Soylent Yellow posted:Out of interest, what kind of apprenticeship are you considering? Is it a tool trade like plumbing or electrician, or something different? Not fully decided yet but motorcycle mechanic is top of my list with electrician second.
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