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gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
no, this time the party that can actually pass legislation did it. that's completely different.

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CaptainACAB
Sep 14, 2021

by Jeffrey of Langley
Biden will veto to deny the GOP a win and then will have the Dems try to put forward a bill which will be tanked by Manchin and Synema, thereby keeping weed illegal and denying the GOP a win which is the ideal situation for a dread segregationist running a party comprised almost entirely of shills for private prisons.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Just lmao if the 2022 republican platform includes getting a veto proof majority to decriminalize weed

I hope the 'progressives only care about weed' thing turns out to be true and dems get blown the gently caress out at all levels, 1000 years of republican darkness

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Nix Panicus posted:

Just lmao if the 2022 republican platform includes getting a veto proof majority to decriminalize weed

I hope the 'progressives only care about weed' thing turns out to be true and dems get blown the gently caress out at all levels, 1000 years of republican darkness

accelerationism ftw

a_pineapple
Dec 23, 2005



L M A O

a_pineapple
Dec 23, 2005


Biden vetoes is and is seen as a total square, Trumo wins
Biden passes it and it is seen as a republican victory, Togp still wins

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1...ingawful.com%2F

CaptainACAB
Sep 14, 2021

by Jeffrey of Langley
Thinking of scenarios where the Democrats ever win an election again.

Can't think of any.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




theyll win after a gop presidency as usual cause their message of not the gop only works then

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
Breyer dying early 2025 will be a nice inaugural gift for DeSantis tbh

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Yeah, I kinda think Klobb turning out to be radioactive while the George Floyd protests were going on ended up catching Biden's team flat footed and they didn't have a backup VP. I didn't think it was going to ever ever be Kamala though after she shanked him in that debate. Abrams checks off most of the same idpol boxes so her not getting picked is even funnier with that in mind

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Lord of Pie posted:

Yeah, I kinda think Klobb turning out to be radioactive while the George Floyd protests were going on ended up catching Biden's team flat footed and they didn't have a backup VP. I didn't think it was going to ever ever be Kamala though after she shanked him in that debate. Abrams checks off most of the same idpol boxes so her not getting picked is even funnier with that in mind

adamslearninginrealtimeshewontbevp.mp4

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
i think abrams was pushing for it but didn't have any actual support. i'm not sure anyone even bothered to string her along with false promises.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

is she running for georgia governor again?

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

these are the people dems are trying to court with bipartisanship lmfao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVX_7BAQp74&t=158s

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
according to a new study, voters across the west agree on a ton of things, and the number one thing they agree on is that they loving hate each other

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

vyelkin posted:

according to a new study, voters across the west agree on a ton of things, and the number one thing they agree on is that they loving hate each other

wow politics like being a sports fan is really tribal at fundamental.

Also Trump supporter are like Khorne bezerkers when it comes to cranking up liberal crying.

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
https://twitter.com/burgessev/statu...ingawful.com%2F

a delusional loving idiot. Like most dems

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


They have quite an amazing young talent pipeline!

Your crazy Tri-athlete Karen like smug idiot.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Ah yes, impossible to figure out and unpredictable: Just what everyone wants out of their politicians.

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007

quote:

In a 35-minute interview in her miniature, pink-hued Capitol hideaway office, Sinema dressed down Democratic leadership for setting expectations too high. She also defended the right of her critics to protest her, but not to follow her into a bathroom and “unfairly and illegally” victimize the students she teaches at Arizona State. Sinema also revealed why she’s constantly spotted on the floor chatting with GOP leader McConnell: “He has a dry sense of humor. It's underrated.”

Still, Sinema laid out some of her thinking, explaining that she generally supports adding paid leave to the Democrats’ social spending bill but not raising tax rates on corporations and some high-income earners, saying she “will not support tax policies that have a negative impact on our economic climate.”

And even though she’s quietly informed Democrats for weeks that she’s supportive of Biden’s social spending and climate bill and publicly signaled she wants to clinch a deal, she still won’t explicitly say she’ll back it — even after the House passed her infrastructure legislation.

However, she will criticize her party for its complicity in setting unachievable, sky-high expectations, just like the Republicans who promised to repeal Obamacare under former President Donald Trump. A $3.5 trillion social spending bill, sweeping elections reform, a $15 minimum wage and changes to the filibuster rules were always a long shot with Sinema and Manchin as the definitive Democratic votes in the Senate.

She prefers to keep her thoughts completely under wraps, confounding people in her party who want public statements detailing her views. She thinks it’s a style that works for her, her state and even her party.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), a prospective successor to McConnell, went as far as to say he “would be surprised if Republicans tried to unseat her” in 2024 if she runs.

She may have a dearth of buddies in the House Progressive Caucus, which repeatedly delayed her infrastructure bill and then nearly sank it when a half-dozen Democrats voted against it. The way she sees it, Biden was able to sign that bill thanks to brave Republicans and the Congressional Black Caucus — not because progressive leaders eventually relented.

The CBC “did a lot of heavy lifting to get that bill across the finish line in the House,” Sinema said. “The 13 Republicans who voted yes on that bill in the House, and many of whom are now receiving death threats, they deserve a much greater share of thanks than they received ... Speaker Pelosi did not have the Democratic votes to pass that bill on a one party vote.”

vote blue no matter who lmao

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
The senate is 48D-52R even from a conservative estimate.

Anyway, it isn’t possible for the Democrats to collapse completely, they will still hang around in the shadows, maybe getting a branch or at least a portion of one once in a while. The system really isn’t designed for a stable one party system.

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
Pro-business republicans running as dems is some kind of cheat code for incumbency. If you ran as a republican you'd be in danger of primary when you wade into the conflicts between business and the republican base, but as a democrat you will never be primaried no matter what you do as long as you remember to campaign.

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
The fact that some have fallen below the bar of remembering to campaign is the funniest loving thing.

CaptainACAB
Sep 14, 2021

by Jeffrey of Langley

Ardennes posted:

The senate is 48D-52R even from a conservative estimate.

Anyway, it isn’t possible for the Democrats to collapse completely, they will still hang around in the shadows, maybe getting a branch or at least a portion of one once in a while. The system really isn’t designed for a stable one party system.

they will continue on as an openly controlled opposition as opposed to a covertly controlled one.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

CaptainACAB posted:

they will continue on as an openly controlled opposition as opposed to a covertly controlled one.

Also, between a possible 7-2 Supreme Court and Republican redistricting, they could very well stay a rump party.

Voting, more than anything, will be about appearances.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 20:24 on Nov 17, 2021

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Ardennes posted:

. The system really isn’t designed for a stable one party system.

we are currently living in a stable one party system, op.

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin

Smythe posted:

we are currently living in a stable one party system, op.

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007

Smythe posted:

we are currently living in a stable one party system, op.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Smythe posted:

we are currently living in a stable one party system, op.

lmao

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008


Smythe posted:

we are currently living in a stable one party system, op.

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
https://twitter.com/DanRiffle/statu...ingawful.com%2F

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
https://twitter.com/RepGolden/statu...ingawful.com%2F

Noob Saibot
Jan 29, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

What are they referring to

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009
SALT cap repeal. Something that only affected households with more than $400,000 in income.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

The SALT repeal was so transparently stupid that I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it ends up being a major point for republican attack ads next year, this one is just the start.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Thoguh posted:

The SALT repeal was so transparently stupid that I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it ends up being a major point for republican attack ads next year, this one is just the start.

it's really funny because it's not wrong to say that the Republicans put in the SALT change to gently caress over blue states, but also repealing it benefits millionaires, almost as if the Democratic base in blue states is millionaires :thunk:

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

why aren't the dems rolling back the trump tax cuts along with the salt repeal?

because they are owned by the machine

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
I can’t even imagine the liberal psychosis that is coming in 2022 but I know it’s going to be hilarious

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MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

They are.

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