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mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

literally 0 of them

The NYC sanitation workers did a lovely job of picking up trash for a week as a tantrum over the vax mandate, but it was never officially a strike.

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DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


a strike is an attempt to leverage your power as laborers to force concessions from your employer. there has not ever been a strike over a vaccine mandate and there likely never will be.

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


what’s this about JD now claiming their last offer was actually the last, final, and best? bargaining committee is saying they weren’t told that

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

what’s this about JD now claiming their last offer was actually the last, final, and best? bargaining committee is saying they weren’t told that

Ain't heard anything about that until you brought it here. But if so that's hilarious. A comically blatant and lazy attempt at high-pressure tactics just makes them look even weaker when they give a fresh deal in a week or two.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


THIS IS MY FINAL OFFER is like used car salesman tactics 101 there just trying to make themselves look like victims

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/AFLCIO/status/1456283937727254534

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
imagine standing up after your CEO speaks and saying pro-union stuff and corporate is so scared they have to shuttle him out of the room

https://twitter.com/SBWorkersUnited/status/1457186417667461124

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
how to use organizing to do bargaining: https://twitter.com/wirecutterunion/status/1457765886903869448

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
JD workers should break the tier system, IMO. It solidifies their bargaining in future years.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Jaxyon posted:

JD workers should break the tier system, IMO. It solidifies their bargaining in future years.

This. It loving SUCKED at the time (we were forced into a non-contract, enforced work rules period,) but breaking the tier structure was the best thing our union had done in its entire history.

Konstantin
Jun 20, 2005
And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.
Agreed, tier systems are horrible. In addition to being unfair and destroying employee morale, they are also discriminatory as the higher tiers are disproportionately white and male. Corporate profits have skyrocketed in the last 30 years, there is no reason for benefits to be cut.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

MrYenko posted:

This. It loving SUCKED at the time (we were forced into a non-contract, enforced work rules period,) but breaking the tier structure was the best thing our union had done in its entire history.

any time tiers or "if you hired in on THIS DATE" become a part of a contract it's 100% a tactic to divide the work force. don't fall for it.

poll plane variant
Jan 12, 2021

by sebmojo
I think my union has one tiered contract via "hired on x date" and it bothers me to no end even though it's two guys who've probably long since retired from an obscure and insignificant contract.

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
interestingly, the first unionized fast food isn't with SEIU, who've had their whole fast food organizing program, but with IWW:

https://twitter.com/GrimKim/status/1459243713683763205

perhaps the SEIU program to organize fast food is... Bullshit

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


I’ve wondered what it’s like to organize with IWW, if it’s any different at all

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

https://twitter.com/JonahFurman/status/1460326163340054541?s=20

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

the breakdown

Basic Agreement
256 yes delegates, 188 no delegates
popular vote 49.6% yes 50.4% no

Area Standards Agreement
103 yes delegates, 94 no delegates
popular vote 52% yes 48% no

voter turnout 72%

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


teamsters pulled this poo poo three years ago with a UPS contract and now the hand picked successors to the leadership of that time are likely to lose to movement candidates

but this in general fits with my own priorities in talking to organizers over the past 3-4 years: corrupt and complacent union leadership and the Byzantine bylaws they create to lock in their power are as big a threat as the bosses, and probably the first one they have to tackle.

The Science of Suck
Mar 17, 2009

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

I’ve wondered what it’s like to organize with IWW, if it’s any different at all

i’ve organized with cwa and iww, and while the basic principles of organizing are the same (aeiou, mapping, build the committee etc) there are some key differences like the importance of a cba as a goal and nlrb recognition. there’s also just the basic differences in each organization, like iww being volunteer-run and cwa being run like a business with paid staff.

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


any teamsters itt? Been following the leadership election and I’m beyond excited that O’Brien/Zuckerman are gonna do it. it’s going to be an amazingly radical five years.

also the Deere workers ratified!

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

any teamsters itt? Been following the leadership election and I’m beyond excited that O’Brien/Zuckerman are gonna do it. it’s going to be an amazingly radical five years.

also the Deere workers ratified!

Hell yeah!

And they broke the tier system, right? I've just heard grapevine stuff.

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


Tulip posted:

Hell yeah!

And they broke the tier system, right? I've just heard grapevine stuff.

haven’t read the contract but they definitely prevented the addition of new tiers; I don’t know what the existing tier structure was

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?
I read the same. Stopped the new tier, nothing about the previous setup being changed.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

any teamsters itt? Been following the leadership election and I’m beyond excited that O’Brien/Zuckerman are gonna do it. it’s going to be an amazingly radical five years.

also the Deere workers ratified!

lol they took like 70% of the vote too, didnt they?

StealthArcher
Jan 10, 2010




Konstantin posted:

Agreed, tier systems are horrible. In addition to being unfair and destroying employee morale, they are also discriminatory as the higher tiers are disproportionately white and male. Corporate profits have skyrocketed in the last 30 years, there is no reason for benefits to be cut.

The entire reason UFCW for Canada Safeway was dissolved was over one of these, and all the olds i worked with in 2007 told me that would never happen.

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

any teamsters itt? Been following the leadership election and I’m beyond excited that O’Brien/Zuckerman are gonna do it. it’s going to be an amazingly radical five years.

also the Deere workers ratified!

Its hopeful but still too late to affect the immediate upcoming Dec 31st end of our contract. I do have to question what made us here in Canada swing 75% to Vairma tho.

StealthArcher has issued a correction as of 11:33 on Nov 19, 2021

folytopo
Nov 5, 2013

StealthArcher posted:

The entire reason UFCW for Canada Safeway was dissolved was over one of these, and all the olds i worked with in 2007 told me that would never happen.


Pretty curious about this one?

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
gently caress NYT management

https://twitter.com/wirecutterunion/status/1463175088325505035

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
https://twitter.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1465419812646051841

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
Looks like the Kelloggs strike may have reached a deal.

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
Support strikes:

https://twitter.com/profdanhicks/status/1465790106976067586

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005
anyone have opinions on blizzard??? on the internet??? https://twitter.com/valentine_irl/status/1469002466926608386

TheSlutPit
Dec 26, 2009

:unsmith:

https://twitter.com/greenhousenyt/status/1469015441930600449

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

https://youtu.be/XNJ1RHUnX9s

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


gonna be some hard contracts

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

gonna be some hard contracts

I'm reading fosters book about organizing the steel Mills and this was my second thought, too

First thought being hell ya

Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020

*workers organizing*

ya love to see it

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


it works

Yuli Ban
Nov 22, 2016

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https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1469777002190233604

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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as much as i hate to admit it, seeing this kind of stuff and the whole gamestop thing is starting to make me think the revolution will come from reddit.

god help us all.

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Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



The train derailment had to get an out-of-state company to come clear it: none of the in-state companies that had the equipment to fix it would cross the picket lines.

There was also apparently a grain silo fire at one of the factories.

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