Rime posted:

Pumps survived, now 100-500 RV's are on fire.

https://twitter.com/AndreaWoo/status/1461017982188986371

T.C. posted:

I mean, it could also just be someone who really enjoys irony and isn't above a bit of arson

T.C. posted:

Wouldn't be shocked if there were pipeline breaches somewhere, but I don't think this is one for the original Trans Mountain line. The pipeline's the red line iI sketched into the picture. It's not between the two legs of the highway or even beside the highway. It's on the other side of the river past a road and some other stuff. You'd have to have lost an entire hillside on that side for it to end up in a river, and it'd be inside of a slide. You can see that side of the river in one of the videos and it' doesn't look like there's a problem over there.

There are other pipes in that area, and I also have no idea where the new unoperational pipeline is in that area, but I'm pretty confident that isn't the original trans mountain pipeline sitting in the river.

Bob Socko posted:

Are there any plants that are lawn-like, but with deeper roots? Wooly thyme is my go-to, but its root depth isn't really much different from lawn grasses. It doesn't need to be mowed, and it's more drought tolerant than grass. It's not as sturdy as grass in terms of foot traffic, but it works fine for light use.

Alobar posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwJaELXadKo

T-Paine posted:

https://twitter.com/kentindell/status/1461100613140467721

Mameluke posted:

as a canadian i think i hate our demon kkkracker nation more than yours

yours has a modicum of self-awareness at least

Venomous posted:

ooh, I know this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrEex4mU1n4

take_it_slow posted:

This! Look up “direct drive” or “daylight drive” solar. Doxxing myself a bit here, but the farm I’m living on (still not a cult) is extensively employing this tech. We have a dc well pump that pulls water up 250 ft, moves it 1/4 mile to the house, and pressurizes our tanks to 60+ psi, at 10 gpm, on 180 volts of solar.
Edit: it’s a gruñidos sqflex; it’s been going strong for five years now. Obviously, there are a lot of different pumps depending on your specific situation, but I just want to emphasize that this is way more important and worth investing in than a battery system, and will work just fine without one. PM me if you’ve got any questions.

T-Paine posted:

https://twitter.com/kentindell/status/1461100613140467721

Rime posted:

https://twitter.com/AndreaWoo/status/1461017982188986371

quote:

'Poomatoes' found growing wild in British bay

So much raw sewage is pouring into the sea near holiday beaches on the Kent coast that hundreds of ‘poop’ tomatoes are growing on the shoreline and from seeds in the human excrement, say appalled residents.

They have reported the sight of ripe tomatoes at Pegwell Bay in Kent, along a stretch which has been the centre of a pollution uproar.

Local wildlife enthusiast Nik Mitchell, who runs the Wildlife Conservation in Thanet page on Facebook, said “In recent years I have found lots of the evidence of raw sewage going into our rivers and seas, normally things like floss harps, plasters, applicators and earbuds.



“But poop tomatoes is a new one to me.

“The human body tends not to digest tomatoes and they are a large part of our diet.

“So as the untreated sewage hits our waters the seeds have been washing up along the coastline all around Thanet but it is only in Pegwell Bay where there are fertile conditions and they are able to grow.

“I am very in touch with Pegwell Bay and this is the first time I have noticed hundreds of tomato plants growing. They are great for snacking on whilst doing my litter picks!

“When talking about the sewage spillages I like to point out to people that it’s not just our seas being polluted it is our rivers too and it’s not just raw sewage it is heavily polluted road runoff too.”

<p>The tomatoes are a new phenomenon, but DEFRA says its more likely to be birds spreading seeds</p>
The tomatoes are a new phenomenon, but DEFRA says its more likely to be birds spreading seeds

(Wildlife Conservation in Thanet )
MPs were slammed last month for voting through measures that will let water companies continue to pump sewage into our rivers which flow out to the sea.

In Pegwell Bay, there’s no rush to pick and eat the beach crop - disgusted residents have described them as ‘poop tomatoes’.

Washed into the sea from the sewage system linked to toilets, the tomato seeds have drifted to the shore and are sprouting.

Alice Toney, 31, a mum-of-two living two miles from Pegwell Bay, said "We went down there at the weekend for a stroll because the weather was good, and we were amazed to see tomatoes basically growing on the beach.

"I’d heard about it from some other local residents but I didn’t believe it - until I saw it with my own eyes.


"It’s worrying to think there are tomatoes growing there because they come from tomato pips in people’s poo and they are being fertilised by the human sewage going into the sea.

"What other damage must it be doing to the environment? It’s terrible and something should be done about it.

"I’m not keen to let my little ones run along the beach there if it is as polluted as this."

Earlier this year Southern Water was fined a record £90 million for deliberately pumping 16 to 21 billion litres of sewage into the sea between 2010 and 2015.

In August sewage went into the sea after Margate pumping station was struck by lightning and swimmers were subsequently advised not to enter the water.

Now hundreds of tomatoes growing on the coastline at Pegwell Bay six miles round the coast from Margate have been blamed by locals on the sewer outfalls into the sea.

Louise Marsh, from the Botanical Society of Britain and Ireland, which records sightings of plants including tomatoes in the wild, said "We find that tomatoes can grow wild anywhere that their seeds drop into nutrient-rich soil and have a chance to grow without being cut down.

"So they might germinate in picnic areas, near treated wastewater and in urban areas, near to bins and waste.

"But picnic areas often get mowers going over them, so you’ll find more tomato plants near sewage treatment areas because there aren’t as many people going there."

Rebecca Duncan, from The Rivers Trust charity, said "Tomato seeds aren’t broken down in the gut so tomatoes grow in sludge that is filtered out at sewage treatment works and therefore would also grow where untreated sewage washes up on the shoreline.

"The tomatoes in the video are growing along what looks like a storm beach. Things get deposited there during storm conditions when the waves reach up there.

"Then, because where they are deposited doesn’t get submerged very often, they can actually survive there too for a while they might also be more salt tolerant."

MPs voted against amending a bill to stop water companies dumping raw sewage into Britain’s rivers

A spokesperson at the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) said: “There is no evidence that the tomato plants are associated with sewage discharges and the more plausible answer is that it is from sea birds feeding on nearby waste at landfill sites.

Britain’s sewer system, which is still largely Victorian, becomes unable to cope when there is too much rainwater, causing sewage works to become overwhelmed.

It is under these circumstances that water companies are permitted to release rainwater, and a smaller amount of untreated sewage, directly into rivers and the sea, to stop waste backing up in streets and homes.

But environmentalists say better infrastructure, like storage tanks at treatment works, or nature-based solutions like tree-planting, could better tackle the problem, which has become excessive.

Figures show more than 400,000 sewage ‘overflows’ took place into English waters last year, lasting a total of 3.1 million hours, compared to 293,000 in 2019.

Southern Water, who are permitted to pump treated sewage out to sea, said "Tomatoes evolved to spread by being eaten by birds and animals and the very resilient seeds not only survive passage through digestive systems but the through wastewater treatment processes.

"Tomatoes have been spotted near outfalls around the country for many years and are now self-seeding - many generations have sprung up fruited and then regrown from the seeds."

Environmental campaigners last month said it ‘beggars belief’ that MPs voted against amending a bill to stop water companies dumping raw sewage into Britain’s rivers amid concerns for swimmers on coasts.

goochtit posted:

https://twitter.com/ReutersScience/status/1461037373161193480
the future is now and it is jetski cowboys

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Yes! Now this is the kinda poo poo I'm staying alive for

Cold on a Cob posted:

some towns in bc were already running low on food and had to have food airlifted in

this is going to be the biggest disaster that's ever hit canada and literally nobody mentioned it yesterday in the office

toronto truly is the centre of the universe lmao

goochtit posted:

https://twitter.com/ReutersScience/status/1461037373161193480
the future is now and it is jetski cowboys

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Yes! Now this is the kinda poo poo I'm staying alive for

T-Paine posted:

https://twitter.com/kentindell/status/1461100613140467721

Hexigrammus posted:

Alobar posted:

disgusted residents have described them as ‘poop tomatoes’.

Mayor Dave posted:

Death to America encompasses Canada as well

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

hot house tomatoes? get out, I got poop house maters

Perry Mason Jar posted:

A friend is wanting to get his feet wet and is asking for a book on climate science particularly. He will also accept studies: "any little nick in the mass of information through which I may be favorable guide is a start". Any help is much appreciated, I've had my head in this thing for ~15 years so I don't know where to begin to start.

Hexigrammus posted:

Good morning, thread. I left the coast for the interior two weeks ago to take care of two elderly parents, one in palliative care with pancreatic cancer and the other at level 3 or 4 of the 7 level dementia scale. For some reason my world has been extremely narrow since, I've been off line except for family text and email and the only news I've seen was a Fox News show one night. Fox News is right up there with Services Canada/Canadian Border Services/Revenue Canada scammers for preying on dementia patients.

Haven't heard yet if anything substantive came out of COP26 during its last few days.

Two days ago I got some worried emails and texts from family concerned that I was now cut off. I knew things were wet on the coast but imagine my surprise when I opened the CBC website and was greeted with a wall of text and pictures of water, mud, and rocks where they shouldn't be. Joined the locust swarm at the nearest grocery store at 08:00 the next morning to make sure Dad has milk for his cornflakes. Too late. It's probably inappropriate to be wandering around the store giggling behind my mask at the empty shelves.

This area bills itself as "Canada's Only Desert". I'm a little fuzzy about how deserts work so I'm sure raining every night (sometimes heavily) is normal. Some the the fields are turning a bright emerald green and some bush is flowering up near the tops of the mountains around us. The rattlesnakes are probably getting moldy. When the storm came through it ripped up some of the candlebushes and turned them into tumbleweeds. Very cool but I do not want to get hit by one of those spiky bastards.

Sign on of the highway exits: "Osoyoos: Canada"s Warmest Town". lol, nah, that record is held by Lytton and they have the ashes to prove it.

If you pass someone on the sidewalk mumbling to themselves and giggling it's either a homeless person or someone who's been working with climate related data for the last few years. You can tell the difference - like feral and house cats the scientist looks better cared for. Either will appreciate a coffee and the scientist probably will accept a scritch behind the ears without biting.

Anyway, I'm off to make fruit salad and dispense opioids. Having a normal one.

And thanks for the thread title.

fake edit: Cowboys on jetskis! I'm dying here!

tuyop posted:

A video of someone who survived one of the landslides in BC
https://twitter.com/globalbc/status/1461108250896740361?s=21

The Uninhabitable Earth is outdated but appropriate in tone.

tuyop posted:

A video of someone who survived one of the landslides in BC
https://twitter.com/globalbc/status/1461108250896740361?s=21

Perry Mason Jar posted:

A friend is wanting to get his feet wet and is asking for a book on climate science particularly. He will also accept studies: "any little nick in the mass of information through which I may be favorable guide is a start". Any help is much appreciated, I've had my head in this thing for ~15 years so I don't know where to begin to start.