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Well, that's that. Just finished. Got the secret fourth ending I liked the game alot! Enough to basically spend all my freetime playing it this past week. The end stretch was kind of underwhelming because I was too powerful though..These last couple fights went down in 1-2 turns...But I guess that's on me for getting too swole so I could take on the superbosses first. I've talked alot about the gameplay in this thread so I won't bother getting into it but the story stuff I'm not too sure how I feel about. Obviously spoilers for the whole game ahead, not super well organized but it's my thoughts on it. I thought the plot had some interesting ideas but also sort of didn't do much with it. I liked how Dazai got an arc, even if him going super evil was pretty silly. I laughed out loud when he took his hat off, and a friend of mine said that whole scene reminded him of a Psychopath cutscene from Dead Rising and honestly I agree. But the issue for me was that...Dazai was the ONLY character in the game to get an arc. Yuzuru is barely a character at all. He gets zero growth or characterization the entire game. And on that note, his sister (forget her name lol) was also completely irrelevent except for suddenly making her important for a single sidequest chain that's also required for the secret ending...even though it's not relevant at all to it?? I seriously felt like I was going crazy with the stuff between her and Khonzu since it came out of nowhere yet was given the gravity as if it was a plot thread throughout the game. I don't recall them ever mentioning that she has some sort of genetic disease that's going to kill her at any point in the game. Well whatever. Shohei was a really cool character but then he dies immediately at the route split which I found extremely lame. I expected to get some more stuff between him and Nuwa as you do the final section but nope. Lame! I liked the ending choices, very interesting spins on the classic law/chaos/neutral dynamic, so it frustrates me that dropped the ball with the characters. The stuff with Lucifer at the very end was neat I guess? But he died so fast that it didn't feel as cool or epic as YHVH did in 4A - which is still one of my favorite JRPG fights of all time I think. Oh, and I think it was sort of weird to have you ally with the angels for most of the game, because we basically did that in 4 already. Pretty different circumstances but it was something I still sort of raised an eyebrow at. Curious what they'll do next. Hoping for a 5A style spinoff or not having to wait another decade for 6.
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Anyone got any tips for (area 3 boss spoiler) Yakumo? Does this fight end prematurely like Nuwa? My front line is MC (extreme magic focus), Black Frost, Succubus and Alice. I can lay the hurt on him super hard but even unboosted his physical AoEs are doing absurd damage and a lucky critical oneshots me, and if he takes out two demons at once it's kind of hard to recover. Is there a good source of phys resist besides Oni and/or Shikigami? I've been thinking of using my Moh essence for Tetrakarn insurance.
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Nov 19, 2021 05:39
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Shingouryu posted:Anyone got any tips for (area 3 boss spoiler) Yakumo? Does this fight end prematurely like Nuwa? It doesn't end early no. You should have three turns of relative safety from phys nullifiers to distribute right off the bat. I think you can get phys resist without elec weakness for the MC from some essence, but I can't remember off the top of my head. But yeah personally I found him one of the last walls relatively before the game kinda gives up
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You gotta take out 100% of his HP. Your strategy is pretty solid and close to what I did. I had Alice, no Black Frost. I had an Anubis and Mishaguji too. I tried to encourage him to attack MC and Mishaguji and if I remember correctly, after Mishaguji got killed I swapped in Silky to do heals and get buffs in.
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Nov 19, 2021 05:48
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Shingouryu posted:Anyone got any tips for (area 3 boss spoiler) Yakumo? Does this fight end prematurely like Nuwa? spoilers for the cutscene right before that but I like how some chatter with a JDF grunt back in tokyo has saying all their weapons and firepower about like usual do nothing to demons but then Yakumo just downs a small flock of Forneus' with a old .38 revolver.
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Just started messing around the second area. This game is loving excellent.
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So I'm kind of at my wit's end with this one side quest and no one on the internet, according to google at least, seems to have an explanation and it's making me feel really dumb: How do I get to the quest marker for The Demon of the Spring? It looks like I should just have a path from where the Abscess to the north was but that's not at all how it works and the map doesn't really indicate there's any other way to get to it.
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Nuebot posted:So I'm kind of at my wit's end with this one side quest and no one on the internet, according to google at least, seems to have an explanation and it's making me feel really dumb: How do I get to the quest marker for The Demon of the Spring? It looks like I should just have a path from where the Abscess to the north was but that's not at all how it works and the map doesn't really indicate there's any other way to get to it. There's a ramp that you take up and then you drop off of to get to the path to the spring. I wound up there by accident and had trouble finding it again when I came back to complete the quest.
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Nuebot posted:So I'm kind of at my wit's end with this one side quest and no one on the internet, according to google at least, seems to have an explanation and it's making me feel really dumb: How do I get to the quest marker for The Demon of the Spring? It looks like I should just have a path from where the Abscess to the north was but that's not at all how it works and the map doesn't really indicate there's any other way to get to it. You have to jump over to that hill from the adjacent, taller hill. There's a rock jutting out you can use to get real close.
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Has it been determined whether the moon phase changes what rewards you get from yellow crystals?
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Tergaso posted:There's a ramp that you take up and then you drop off of to get to the path to the spring. I wound up there by accident and had trouble finding it again when I came back to complete the quest. cheetah7071 posted:You have to jump over to that hill from the adjacent, taller hill. There's a rock jutting out you can use to get real close. Thanks, I felt real dumb when I saw it. I walked past that rock like ten times  chumped the boss though!
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Nov 19, 2021 08:58
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Spermando posted:Has it been determined whether the moon phase changes what rewards you get from yellow crystals? If they are on the field I think they are all set. The only thing I have seen the moon phases influence is that certain demons are either extra friendly or want nothing to do with you during a full/new moon.
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AFAIK Moon Phase only affects fusing and negotiations and that's it.
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There is also one sidequest that activates a miniboss fight during a full moon.
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Nov 19, 2021 13:25
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Neeksy posted:AFAIK Moon Phase only affects fusing and negotiations and that's it. How exactly? I just entered the fusion menu with a party of like level 8 demons during a new moon and saw Yoshitsune and was like hmm wait what
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More accidents happen during full and new moon.
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Nov 19, 2021 16:30
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Detective No. 27 posted:There's a path to it through the upper left corner. This one took me a while to figure out too. Thank you! Hopefully I can figure it out. I might need someone to photoshop in a line from one of the save points, because I have a room temperature IQ. Otherwise game is great and i'm having a lot of fun just running around grinding.
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Nov 19, 2021 16:40
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It's around where you meet the giant dragon if you saw him yet.
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Finally got to the end of the demon king's castle. It was mostly fine but the final puzzle room got a bit frustrating at the very end.
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Nov 19, 2021 17:57
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I did a quest and now I have a Leanan Sidhe like 5 levels above my MC
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Easy Allies has their review up now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLzz04nCiNQ we talked a lot previously about how terrible the early SMTV reviews were, so here is a great example of how to write a really good review.
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I just beat Hydra and it was quite tough, lost the first one, baaarely squeaked by eventually by fusing bufu onto leanan sidhe and using defend when it felt like I was gonna get wrecked Ended the battle with 4 HP on the MC and a single demon Is this traditional SMT 1st boss toughness or am I just way under leveled
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I just beat Hydra and it was quite tough, lost the first one, baaarely squeaked by eventually by fusing bufu onto leanan sidhe and using defend when it felt like I was gonna get wrecked What level are you? Either way the answer to your question is that it can be quite rough as you have yet to really get the tools needed to handle bosses cleanly.
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Hydra is the hardest boss I've faced so far by a huge margin, just because you don't have as many tools to work with yet.
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What is the biggest fusion mistake you've seen, thread? I've been spending way too much time slow playing this game to try and break it, and i'm wondering what you can get away with. Still using the midgame 3(+ daisoujou) power team, and I beat Pale Rider on hard at a 7 level disadvantage with the whole party. It just doesn't seem like there is ever a reason to not use demons with powerful uniques and just bolster them by always using grimoires and essences. Also just got a 6-level favoring mistake on a normal moon cycle.
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My fusion errors are are usually because i tend to think of each demon in a vacuum instead of nonsense like "teamwork" or "synergy" which is how I end up with eight of my ten dudes weak to fire, or nobody within ten levels of me knowing any force spells.
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So far I have just been fusing anything new that comes up when I level up. I was far more meticulous with fusing in Nocturne because I wanted to preserve Mana Refill but now I just slap together whatever gives the most +X skills to the fusion target lol
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I've mostly been avoiding anything with even stats. There are probably some jack-of-all-trades guys which are good but I tend to like specialist characters. I don't think I'm quite at the spot where I act like it's Persona 5 and just fuse everything to see if it unlocks anything nice but I'm getting enough money now (end of area 3) that I think that's not far off Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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This is my first SMT game. Only a few hours in, the combat system and atmosphere are top-notch. I just unlocked demon fusion and I’m not exactly sure how I should approach it. Is it the kind of thing where you want to make every demon at least once to fill out the compendium, re-recruiting old demons as needed? Or do you just tend to make a few that look good and don’t bother with the rest? I’m just not sure if I’m going to miss like a whole evolutionary branch because I never bothered to make a Neko Shogun or w/e.
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Also can you negotiate with or fuse mitamas? They show up as "Unreg"...
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Nibble posted:This is my first SMT game. Only a few hours in, the combat system and atmosphere are top-notch. I just unlocked demon fusion and I’m not exactly sure how I should approach it. Once you get a demon you can always get it back via the compendium for a cost. In fact, there's a fusion option to include the compendium when searching for fusion results so you don't even have to go through the hassle of buying it and then fusing. It's good to always be fusing, since a lot of demons will level out of relevance sooner than later (the status screen will tell you if a demon still has any skills left to learn, but if they aren't skills you'll use then it's cool to just fuse them into something else).
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Nibble posted:This is my first SMT game. Only a few hours in, the combat system and atmosphere are top-notch. I just unlocked demon fusion and I’m not exactly sure how I should approach it. First of all, definitely make a Neko Shogun, he's one of the best early game demons. His ability to debuff enemies is a huge help for early boss fights. But in general, you really don't have to go all-out making every single demon possible unless you actively want to fill out the compendium (which can be fun for its own sake if you're into that). In general you should be fusing reasonably often because the EXP curve works out that demons will always eventually fall behind, but you can also always make a better one that can inherit skills from the demons you fuse it from. You also have a Demon Compendium that lets you pay macca to resummon any demons you've previously had, which is fairly expensive early on but eventually you'll be able to afford to do it fairly often. In SMTV specifically, there are more ways to keep your favorite demons leveled up and with high stats if you want to, but the general idea is that you should fuse demons whenever it seems like it would be more useful to have a new demon. Things like what elements they resist, skill affinities, stats, and what skills they can learn are all things to keep an eye on when you're looking to fuse.
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I always just fill the compendium in these games. Its ridiculously easy with the reverse fusion search here too because you can easily target the demons to recruit. I will say though not letting me 'save' bespoke demons with their inherited moves and making summoning from the compendium so expensive has made this strategy a hell of a lot harder than it normally is
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It is very silly that (spoilers for near the end of area three) Amanozako gives you her level 70+ essence when you beat her, including access to zanbarion and maziobarion, while you're still in your 40s and only just starting to get -dyne spells.
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Hunt11 posted:What level are you? Either way the answer to your question is that it can be quite rough as you have yet to really get the tools needed to handle bosses cleanly. I think I fought him at 13 or 14? Angel/Mermaid/Leanan Sidhe Meanwhile got absolutely obliterated by an optional Oni in a sidequest lol
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I think I fought him at 13 or 14? That Oni's a real rear end in a top hat
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cheetah7071 posted:It is very silly that (spoilers for near the end of area three) Amanozako gives you her level 70+ essence when you beat her, including access to zanbarion and maziobarion, while you're still in your 40s and only just starting to get -dyne spells. I actually don't know if I should put the spells on my Alice or Idun, or fuse it to my MC for the almighty damage passive. Anyone know how common finding the almighty passive is in the mid 50s-low 60s?
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