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greazeball posted:Are there any good effects of this vaccine? Does it in any way balance out the extremely rare side effects? well depending on what data or statistics you use it could either significantly or somewhat reduce your risk of serious complications and hospitalization but so does quarantine and social distancing. if you're in a position where you have contact with many people on a daily basis you should probably get the vaccine and the boosters even with the waning efficacy
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what the gently caress do i have to do to get a permaban around here
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 this is what the fda doesn't want you to see!
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hofnar posted:what the gently caress do i have to do to get a permaban around here You could tell us your thoughts on age of consent laws.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:You could tell us your thoughts on age of consent laws. I have boundaries bro
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hofnar posted:what color che shirt are you wearing Does your mom want it back, already?
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g0lbez posted:well depending on what data or statistics you use it could either significantly or somewhat reduce your risk of serious complications and hospitalization but so does quarantine and social distancing. if you're in a position where you have contact with many people on a daily basis you should probably get the vaccine and the boosters even with the waning efficacy you seemed to imply the vaccine was bad though
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learnincurve posted:*taps the sign that says you get to a point where so many people are vaccinated that the scales tip and you have more vaccinated in hospital than unvaccinated. lol. The antivaxxers are the ones who insisted, against all human knowledge, that we could make a durable, sterilizing vaccine to a coronavirus. The shots work fine, it's the immune system that's not up to it. It's like everyone forgot the vaccines were a longshot to end the pandemic and think they are just an end condition. Edit: there are still enormous benefits to the shot, it's just not enough Strep Vote fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Nov 22, 2021 |
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Everyone keep posting, surely we can change the antivaxer's mind this time.
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greazeball posted:you seemed to imply the vaccine was bad though i don't think it's the end solution that everyone is making it out to be. i don't think it warrants demonizing people as "anti vaxxers" and celebrating people's deaths while blanket mandating it for everyone across the board regardless of age or risk factor. but of course doing all that sure gets those stock prices soaring.
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Getting a big laugh out of "how can we possibly know whether this 20 year-old technology is safe, we need to trial the vaccine for 100 years before authorizing its use" when smallpox inoculation carried a 2% fatality rate, was guaranteed to give you a scar, and was an injection of ground up pustules taken from the open sores developed by previous recipients of the inoculation. Ben Franklin openly wept when one of his kids died of smallpox and was like "you need to get your kids incoluated right the gently caress now. I am not even joking, I will shove an entire almanac up the rear end of any variolation skeptic who has the misfortune of crossing my path, gently caress you." - that's a direct quote look it up
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g0lbez posted:i don't think it's the end solution that everyone is making it out to be. i don't think it warrants demonizing people as "anti vaxxers" and celebrating people's deaths while blanket mandating it for everyone across the board regardless of age or risk factor. I am not even joking, I will shove an entire almanac up your rear end if you don't knock off this vaccine skeptic bullshit, gently caress you. It's what our forefathers would have wanted and I am a PATRIOT 
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QuarkJets posted:I am not even joking, I will shove an entire almanac up your rear end if you don't knock off this vaccine skeptic bullshit, gently caress you. It's what our forefathers would have wanted and I am a PATRIOT 
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I've had more vaccines than all you dipshits combined including the anthrax shot everyone quit the military about back in the early 90s. Keep beating that anti vaxx drum.
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Been seeing some stuff about how a nasally administered vaccine might help decrease infections down the line and also reduce the chance of brain damage from long covid through mucosal immunity. The current vaccines are pretty good at protecting the lungs and heart but the antibodies don’t get as far into the parts of the body that are most likely to encounter the virus first.
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QuarkJets posted:I am not even joking, I will shove an entire almanac up your rear end if you don't knock off this vaccine skeptic bullshit, gently caress you. It's what our forefathers would have wanted and I am a PATRIOT maybe if our healthcare and well being weren't intensely monetized i wouldn't be so concerned with ulterior motives
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g0lbez posted:maybe if our healthcare and well being weren't intensely monetized i wouldn't be so concerned with ulterior motives right
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QuarkJets posted:I am not even joking, I will shove an entire almanac up your rear end if you don't knock off this vaccine skeptic bullshit, gently caress you. It's what our forefathers would have wanted and I am a PATRIOT 
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hofnar posted:what the gently caress do i have to do to get a permaban around here pm an admin and they'll give you one you dramatic baby
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Inept posted:pm an admin and they'll give you one you dramatic baby Do you need a hug
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Ccs posted:Been seeing some stuff about how a nasally administered vaccine might help decrease infections down the line and also reduce the chance of brain damage from long covid through mucosal immunity. The current vaccines are pretty good at protecting the lungs and heart but the antibodies don’t get as far into the parts of the body that are most likely to encounter the virus first. They should mix it with cocaine. We could have vaccine parties!
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g0lbez posted:maybe if our healthcare and well being weren't intensely monetized i wouldn't be so concerned with ulterior motives gosh I wonder which is more profitable, several weeks of treatment for severe covid-19 infection followed by treating potentially a lifetime of long-covid symptoms, or a vaccine that prevents all of that for which they receive a small nominal fee i just can't figure out which of these numbers is bigger can anyone help, i am very dumb
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QuarkJets posted:gosh I wonder which is more profitable, several weeks of treatment for severe covid-19 infection followed by treating potentially a lifetime of long-covid symptoms, or a vaccine that prevents all of that for which they receive a small nominal fee Berkeley?
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QuarkJets posted:gosh I wonder which is more profitable, several weeks of treatment for severe covid-19 infection followed by treating potentially a lifetime of long-covid symptoms, or a vaccine that prevents all of that for which they receive a small nominal fee gosh i wonder which one of those numbers would actually be possible? just because something is more profitable doesn't make it a viable or easy solution that can be accomplished
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I feel like this sort of vaccine skepticism is a problem that should eventually resolve itself one way or another and I have trouble getting mad at it now. It’s dumb as gently caress but telling people that isn’t going to change their mind so I’m happy for them to gently caress around and find out.
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gay picnic defence posted:I feel like this sort of vaccine skepticism is a problem that should eventually resolve itself one way or another and I have trouble getting mad at it now. It’s dumb as gently caress but telling people that isn’t going to change their mind so I’m happy for them to gently caress around and find out. I agree. I should be bigger than this but I'm looking forward to hearing about all the lawsuits 5 years from now.
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gay picnic defence posted:I feel like this sort of vaccine skepticism is a problem that should eventually resolve itself one way or another and I have trouble getting mad at it now. It’s dumb as gently caress but telling people that isn’t going to change their mind so I’m happy for them to gently caress around and find out. nobody really addresses the (valid) reasons for the skepticism they just throw their hands up and make blanket statements like your post or they cherry pick the obviously stupid/incorrect/tin foil poo poo so i'm sorry you haven't been able to change anyone's mind by screaming about how you're happy they're more likely to die from complications
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Lawsuits over what? Right-wing loony anti vaxers, only in this one instance, have an issue with capitalism but still beat the individual liberty drum which it thrives upon.
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helsabot posted:lol what happened in this thread Logic
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hofnar posted:I agree. Lawsuits for what?
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hofnar posted:Logic 
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tagesschau posted:Lawsuits for what? LOL. Really?
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hofnar posted:I agree. O.K. but, like, even if there were actual damages, which there will not be, the vaccine manufacturers have immunity, remember? It’s kind of a big talking point with your kind.
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QuarkJets posted:gosh I wonder which is more profitable, several weeks of treatment for severe covid-19 infection followed by treating potentially a lifetime of long-covid symptoms, or a vaccine that prevents all of that for which they receive a small nominal fee also i know there's zero point in saying this and nobody is going to say anything aside from calling me an antivaxxer/idiot/hope i die but i just want to mention that they are obviously developing a treatment (no poo poo!!) and i can guarantee you they will advise that you take in conjunction with the vaccine so please feel free to tell me how unprofitable this whole process will be
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Platystemon posted:O.K. but, like, even if there were actual damages, which there will not be, the vaccine manufacturers have immunity, remember? It’s kind of a big talking point with your kind. LOL what;s my kind
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hofnar posted:LOL. Really? Lawsuits for imaginary wrongs have vanishingly little hope of success.
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we got a kyle backing chud invasion going on right now... it would be interesting if it wasn't the same poo poo we hear from tuck constantly. How dumb do you have to be to argue that the mRNA vaccine that has been in development for 50 years is unsafe, simply because they changed the payload to covid? what exactly do you think is lurking in our blood streams that is going to cause "issues" in the future? The vaccine is out of your system by now if you took it. You think the t-cells that the covid vaccine help create are going to turn into poison in 100 days? 3 years? 20? You don't understand science and you are stupid I'm sorry to break it to you. *dur dur im not antivax i served in the military and got vaxxed a lot!* kind of says it all.
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