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Dark Souls 2 is the best Dark Souls game with by far the best multiplayer. All the covenants worked great. DS3 purples wish they were as entertaining as Rats. Also the Belltowers were really good fightclubs
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I'm honestly genuinely curious how many people don't like Dark Souls 2 versus how many people say they don't like Dark Souls 2 only because everyone else says it. Did people really just want Dark Souls, but again? That's basically what we got with Dark Souls 3. I liked that they tried something else
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Nov 22, 2021 00:34
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Concurred posted:I liked that they tried something else Yeah, it was called Bloodborne
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Nov 22, 2021 00:40
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anothergod posted:This is bait 
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Nov 22, 2021 00:48
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Concurred posted:I'm honestly genuinely curious how many people don't like Dark Souls 2 versus how many people say they don't like Dark Souls 2 only because everyone else says it. I quite liked DS2 on my first couple of runs at release, my fairly low opinion on it now comes solely from my pre-DS3 replay expecting to have a great time and being gradually driven insane by the mechanical and design choices specific to that game and yeah skasion posted:Yeah, it was called Bloodborne
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Nov 22, 2021 00:51
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skasion posted:Yeah, it was called Bloodborne 
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Nov 22, 2021 01:08
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Concurred posted:I'm honestly genuinely curious how many people don't like Dark Souls 2 versus how many people say they don't like Dark Souls 2 only because everyone else says it. FromSoft tried something else with Sekiro, and it's one of my favorite games of all time. Dark Souls 2 is just Dark Souls 1 but worse.
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Nov 22, 2021 01:36
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The combat in DS2 just feels so weightless to me I don’t know what it is
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Nov 22, 2021 01:39
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My main issue with ds2 is just how ugly it is overall. So many areas are just grey or brown featureless castle/fortress interiors. Basically on a similar level for detail in environmental design as like.. Dark Forces 2.
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Nov 22, 2021 02:07
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hatty posted:The combat in DS2 just feels so weightless to me I don’t know what it is The sound design is bad and enemies all look like tiny little models.
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Nov 22, 2021 02:11
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Also everyone has weird proportions, everyone's very squat and thicc and the animations are both slow and abrupt. One thing I do like about DS2, and presumably also about Elden Ring, is that the R2 strong attacks seem far more viable. DS2 strong attacks have excellent motion values, and deal noticably high damage. Like I can one-shot Amana Aberrations with a Craftman's Hammer 2HR2. Not only that, the attacks are quick and cost a reasonable amount of stamina. I'd go so far as to say that they really make alot of the large weapon movesets more viable, you can effectively switch between narrow and sweeping attacks with either R1 or R2. In contrast, DS3 R1s are your bread and butter, theres usually no reason to ever use R2s except for risky mixups.
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Nov 22, 2021 02:30
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Captain Oblivious posted:Dark Souls 2 is the best Dark Souls game with by far the best multiplayer. All the covenants worked great. DS3 purples wish they were as entertaining as Rats. the rat covenant was loving awful lol
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Nov 22, 2021 02:31
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I've never bought a special edition of a game before and I kinda want to with this but I don't want to pay eBay scalper prices, am I likely to have any chance whatsoever at doing this or should I just give up? Tips welcome. I managed to snag a PS5 by obsessively watching this site and catching a Wario64 link, is something like that my only chance?
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Nov 22, 2021 02:40
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actionjackson posted:the rat covenant was loving awful lol
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Nov 22, 2021 02:48
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Ratties could have benefited from more customization, but the idea was great. Like the Gravelords in DS1, I love PvP that puts the penalty for failure on the invader. That said, even a single ascetic and the right lockstones in place really made it more of a "watch Goofus get murked by NG+ enemies" covenant. Janky but fun defines a lot about DS2...
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hatty posted:The combat in DS2 just feels so weightless to me I don’t know what it is DS2's animations are hosed up because they're mocapped instead of hand animated, which I don't think fromsoft had any previous experience with, and cause of the shitshow it went through in development they never got to finish them so they fit into the world and flow properly. They all stick a bit too rigidly to the exact way they were recorded. It also has really terrible audio/visual feedback when you land a hit or get hit compared to the other games, and its hitstun lasts forever and makes you pose like you're about to take a poo poo. Dabir fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Nov 22, 2021 |
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Nov 22, 2021 05:20
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As much as I enjoy DS2 I like dunking on that game because holy poo poo do the idiots love to effort post how much they like the game.
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Nov 22, 2021 05:31
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I like a lot of ds2 but I despise the limp-rear end attack animation for axes and some swords. That lazy upward twirl. Looks like poo poo and it’s impossible to tell what part of it hits and when.
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Nov 22, 2021 05:37
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the 1h axe/mace animations in ds2 are better than the ones in ds1, but honestly that doesnt take much
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Nov 22, 2021 06:30
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They get much better when you actually hit things with them in 1 and 3 hth
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Nov 22, 2021 06:50
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DS3 doesn't have powerstancing so it's a step down tbh
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Nov 22, 2021 07:21
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Dabir posted:They get much better when you actually hit things with them in 1 and 3 hth Too bad they only had 1 boring rear end swing in ds1. Like bitch ur telling me I can swing this ultra great sword twice but I’m too weak to swing backwards with this mace? Get outta here
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Nov 22, 2021 07:36
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I don't think I used power stancing once intentionally.
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Nov 22, 2021 07:55
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anothergod posted:As much as I enjoy DS2 I like dunking on that game because holy poo poo do the idiots love to effort post how much they like the game. yeah! gently caress the thing likers
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Nov 22, 2021 10:12
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 Me when somebody's talking poo poo about DS2 animations
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Concurred posted:I'm honestly genuinely curious how many people don't like Dark Souls 2 versus how many people say they don't like Dark Souls 2 only because everyone else says it. The level design felt a lot less interesting. I don't remember how progression works in that game, but I think I got more than halfway through it, still thinking "it has time to become better, and after all, I probably missed like 3 big secret locations!" The locations felt uninteresting aside from a few, and most of the bosses felt the same. DkS1 felt like every boss was a new challenge. Some were more humanoid, others giant monsters, some threw projectiles while others used elemental damage. Quite a few weren't even hard at all and acted more like a set-piece, while others were puzzle-based. Who doesn't remember Sif, Gaping Dragon, or even Moonlight Butterfly? I don't really get how it's "different" from Dark Souls 1 to claim that it tried to do something unique. All three games are still very similar, and Souls 2 seems more focused on playing up the same stuff people loved, with references that feel forced and difficulty which seems out of place.
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Nov 22, 2021 12:02
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My only substantial complaint about DS2 was the weird art direction on the textures. Everything looks kinda smudged and muddy compare to DS1 and 3. I don't know why it looks like that or why it was meant to be a good idea.
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Nov 22, 2021 12:44
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I'm probably gonna buy this video game.
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huh posted:I don't think I used power stancing once intentionally. I tried it and I wasn't impressed. DS3 kept enough of it with the twin weapons imo.
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marshmallow creep posted:DS3 doesn't have powerstancing so it's a step down tbh I did find it cute that there were two powerstance weapons and they're specifically from Drang(leic). And they were two of the most powerful and common powerstance weapons from there. All it needed was Dual Estoc to complete the set.
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bewilderment posted:My only substantial complaint about DS2 was the weird art direction on the textures. Everything looks kinda smudged and muddy compare to DS1 and 3. I don't know why it looks like that or why it was meant to be a good idea. That could be a relic of when they were going to have more of a light/dark theme with torches being more important. Not entirely sure how far that was supposed to go but if they had to change the lighting a lot close to release that'd probably do it.
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Roobanguy posted:the 1h axe/mace animations in ds2 are better than the ones in ds1, but honestly that doesnt take much DS1 clubs/maces/axes were "balanced" around having an extended recovery animation when you whiff. In exchange, they have massive base damage and are staples of SL1 runs. Which isn't very fun. DS2 mace 2HR1s have that weird flourish which makes the attacks feel a tad sluggish. The 2HR2s on the other hand feel great to use, they're quick and have massive motion values. DS3 club 2HR1s are insanely powerful, they come out noticably faster than mace 2HR1s and hitstun like a bitch. DS3 R2s on the other hand are broadly inferior, they're never your bread and butter attack.
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DS2's animation problems show themselves pretty quickly if you need to aim at something slightly higher or lower than usual. They're so rigidly baked that they just can't adjust their angle, unlike every other game in the series. Good thing there's no really tiny enemies that demonstrate this problem perfectly in, say, the hub area! It would be really embarrassing if something that shouldn't be any kind of threat is borderline unkillable because you have to exploit the terrain just to get your attacks to connect.
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caldrax posted:I've never bought a special edition of a game before and I kinda want to with this but I don't want to pay eBay scalper prices, am I likely to have any chance whatsoever at doing this or should I just give up? Tips welcome. I managed to snag a PS5 by obsessively watching this site and catching a Wario64 link, is something like that my only chance? "Collectors" editions are massively produced and should be able to be had reasonably from your local store. But you would be better off never buying physical media or closet destined dust collectors again
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Flytrap posted:I did find it cute that there were two powerstance weapons and they're specifically from Drang(leic). And they were two of the most powerful and common powerstance weapons from there. All it needed was Dual Estoc to complete the set. Oh yeah lol DS3 Drang Twinspears are one of the most underrated weapons that somehow carried me to gold rank in Arena on my DEX/FAI buff build. They have fast multi-hitting attacks that are good vehicles for transferring your weapon buffs into your opponent, but also have insane range and great running R1s and rolling L1s to round out your moveset. Gotthards are theoretically good but they're boring without a good true combo. Drang Twinspears on the other hand have a generic L1-L1 or R1-L1 combo that nevertheless hit and silly number of times.
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Has anyone here read any of the Dark Souls comics? I quite enjoyed the Bloodborne ones and was wondering whether they would be a good way to tide be over before Breath of the Hotdogman finally comes out
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Flytrap posted:I did find it cute that there were two powerstance weapons and they're specifically from Drang(leic). And they were two of the most powerful and common powerstance weapons from there. All it needed was Dual Estoc to complete the set. There's three, Brigand Twindaggers. Plus every fist weapon. E: Flint_Paper posted:Has anyone here read any of the Dark Souls comics? I quite enjoyed the Bloodborne ones and was wondering whether they would be a good way to tide be over before Breath of the Hotdogman finally comes out I bought the collection a couple of weeks ago. No, they suck tremendous poo poo.
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Vookatos posted:All three games are still very similar, and Souls 2 seems more focused on playing up the same stuff people loved, with references that feel forced and difficulty which seems out of place. It's like they responded to a general internet survey about Dark Souls, taken by a bunch of twitch users, and then implemented whatever they said without any context or testing. Everyone's favorite DS1 boss was Artorias? That means players love fighting dudes in armor so make 75% of the bosses that. I know it had development troubles and the scattershot design really shows. If there's a reputable writeup (not like Vaati making poo poo up) on why it all went down the way it did I'd love to read it. None of this matters because ER is going to be super awesome.
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DS2 is weird because it's a game that is deeply, truly flawed, and yet every time there are discussions about it i get a traitorous little voice in the back of my head saying "maybe we're too harsh on it" and "let's try making another character, and actually finish it this time" and then i play it again and go "christ, what was i thinking??" ...that said, i kinda wonder if there are any overhaul mods for it that try to rebalance it, like DS3 has? i know there's ones that make it even more obnoxiously difficult, surely there are ones that try to make it more fun instead, right?
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I will say that I like DS2's take on being a sequel than DS3's and it was cool to see the world had actually moved on and Anor Londo had become ancient history. It still ended up horribly botched by having to shove something out the door to be released in time, but I appreciate what they were going for
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