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WhatEvil posted:I haven't posted about it ITT, though I have in TCC... Magic mushrooms are a pretty good thing* if you're feeling blackpilled. They made a 6 hour marathon of Tetris Effect into a life-changing experience but I assume you're talking about smaller doses than that e: catte 
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WhatEvil posted:Oh. How does that work then? With "average salary" DB pensions the employer (and employee at a lower rate) pays an amount which buys the employee one year's worth of pension, which is 1/59th of their wage (or whatever the fraction is). There's no pot that can go up and down when the markets move, just a number of fractional amounts that total up when you retire. Lungboy fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Nov 22, 2021 |
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Take LSD like a proper person you loving hippies
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WhatEvil posted:E: Pensions are a mind gently caress of complexity and lies, but basically under a DB scheme you earn entitlements to future annual payouts and when you retire you receive the payout you’ve earned no matter what. There’s no pot of investments you’re contributing to that can go up or down in value. Employees pay some contribution towards that from their salary (I think ~8% in government) and the employer pays some contribution (~24% in government). The real cost of these liabilities is actually ~60% of annual salary for most public sector employees, so the difference gets plugged from general taxation.
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Lungboy posted:With "average salary" DB pensions the employer (and employee at a lower rate) pays an amount which buys the employee one year's worth of pension, which is 1/59th of their wage (or whatever the fraction is). There's no pot that can go up and down when the markets move, just a number of fractional amounts that total up when you retire. Yeah, the employer and employee contributions are more like a membership fee than an actual pot of money that goes to one side. Each year in the NHS pension scheme adds 1/54th of the year's salary to the final yearly pension amount (but that also goes up by the rate of inflation plus 1.5%). So the actual amount of employee + employer contributions is misleading.
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Jakabite posted:Take LSD like a proper person
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Nov 22, 2021 22:50
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I do not condone legal activity either, QC brain is bad.
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Jakabite posted:Take LSD like a proper person you loving hippies Might as well since New Labour made magic mushrooms a Class A drug, meaning Epping Forest is likely to be carpet-bombed by the drug squad at some point.
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Guavanaut posted:Eyedropper in the butt? Ideally. Blows my mind that things like acid and mushrooms are class A. They’re one of the ones that could really, really do with having non-bullshit information about them pushed. Even if you know nothing about cocaine, if you don’t start huffing half gram lines on your first go, chances are you’ll be fine and have a lot of fun. Acid on the other hand is ten times better if you know what you’re in for and have the right right situation and mindset, and potentially one of the most terrifying and harrowing experiences of your life if not. The amount of people I know who’ve done it for the first time at a house party full of drunk strangers then sworn off it for life is insane. I can go out and have a great time on a weak tab but that’s after a lot of experience - it’s destined to be a terrifying and confusing 12 hours if you literally don’t know how it even feels to be tripping. Such a shame cos it’s great.
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Also it’s really fun to try just a quarter of a tab. Go for a walk, see some nature, listen to some music in your headphones. Strongly recommend it just so you get the nice feels and none of the ‘tripsies’.
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I sometimes think about the old hippy bloke who took me and my mates mushroom-picking in Greenwich Park - he was a friend of one of my mate's brothers or something, but he'd heard that we were going to go look for them and basically invited himself along because there's also death caps and other very much not-fungi ( ) growing there. Anyway he did talk to us a lot about making sure we were in the right mindset and setting (making the pretty reasonable point that nature had given us a pretty big hint by making them grow in parks and forests) but he also spent a *long* time ranting about how when he first started going to Epping Forest to pick them in the 60s they were *everywhere*, and poisonous or at least really unpleasant ones were almost unheard of, but since the 80s the amanitas and other ones with effects from indigestion to straight-up death were also there, often on the same stump as the psilocybin, and that "they" had put them there to stop people having a good time. At the time I just thought he was a dumb old hippy (especially when - being the nerd I have always been - I looked up what death caps looked like at the library and it was nothing like a magic mushroom) spinning a yarn to impress us young uns, but the more I think about the poo poo that "they" have got up to over the years this wouldn't even make the top 100.
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Mushrooms last for about 6 hours and Acid lasts like 10, so that's one in favour of Mushrooms IMO. I still find that even knowing what I'm in for etc. that shrooms can be (though are not always) a harrowing experience for the first half of the trip. Then the second half is just pure clarity and a level of introspection and insight I'm not able to otherwise reach. It feels like the equivalent of having a cold, except it's your brain that's congested, and then you take psychedelics and all the congestion is gone and you can see things as they really are. Helps to bring into focus what's important in your life and that sort of thing. Tarnop posted:I assume you're talking about smaller doses than that Nah I'm macro-dosing. Including one time where I hosed up and had way too much. I did start off small though. WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Nov 22, 2021 |
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yung lambic posted:Also it’s really fun to try just a quarter of a tab. Go for a walk, see some nature, listen to some music in your headphones. Strongly recommend it just so you get the nice feels and none of the ‘tripsies’. Yeah, I didn't really enjoy the times I did mushrooms - partly because I just didn't like the taste, but mostly I didn't like the sensation of not being able to trust my own senses. I didn't have anything that you might call a bad time on them - I've definitely had way, way worse times on booze - I was just uncomfortable with what was happening to me. The best times for me were the beginning and end of the trip where it was more like cannabis but without the fuzziness, where things were all just heightened and focused, and if I'd had any brains at all I'd have just resisted the peer pressure to keep up with their intake and gone for a much smaller dose and just lay there and look at the stars and talk poo poo. Two decades later and I know I'm way too unlucky to get away with so much as buying duty-free fags, let alone a Class A substance, and I'm kinda pissed off at the missed opportunity.
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Also yeah it seems likely (and it's been said in at least one documentary I watched) that shrooms and LSD were banned because people who took them suddenly felt a connectedness and empathy towards other people, and those sort of thoughts tended towards communism. Can't have any of that dangerous empathy around. It's only in the last few years they've even been legal for medical professionals to study. Such a waste considering all the results that seem to be coming out now - we could have been 50 years ahead on this stuff. Anecdotally they've been a bit of a miracle cure for me so I'm telling people about it.
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WhatEvil posted:Nah I'm macro-dosing. Including one time where I hosed up and had way too much. I'll go and read your posts in the relevant thread!
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Tarnop posted:I'll go and read your posts in the relevant thread! Ah yeah I've gone into some detail there in TCC if anybody's interested. I realise this is a bit of a derail for the UKMT but I know lots of people ITT have Brain Problems, plus the thread was getting a little blackpilled, and they've really worked for me, and a few other friends I've spoken to, and plenty of people in the TCC thread. WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Nov 22, 2021 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Nowhere in London (at least nowhere upstream of Woolwich[1]) is at risk of being left *permanently* underwater. This sounds like a weird thing to say given how low-lying the riverside areas are (and the amount of places where you have to walk uphill to get to the river) but London itself is comfortably uphill from the sea, and all of the riverside walls between Barking Reach (just upstream from the barrier) and Teddington (the end of the tidal stretch of the Thames) are at least half a metre above local high tide, with all of the walls in the centre of town a metre or more above[2]. Yeah doesn't sound completely bad I guess, however I'm confident that the combination of worse than expected climate change plus the "failed state" level of government here these days will combine to make sure that the barriers somehow fail, the walls are not reinforced/closed/whatever, water is not pumped out in time (or ever), etc. Still plenty of ways for everything to get hosed up
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WhatEvil posted:Ah yeah I've gone into some detail there in TCC if anybody's interested. I had a life-changing mushroom trip a few years ago. I grasped mortality for the first time, and was able to let go of a lot of my fear of “doing things wrong” or being unusually difficult to like. I came out of it feeling radiant, beautiful, and kind of nihilistic. The nihilism wore off but was really helpful at the time. Sadly the radiance also wore off over time (accelerated by a bad boyfriend) but not the overall breakthroughs. I don’t know if I’ll ever get the same effect again but it was genuinely a life-changing 6 hours.
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Mushrooms are great, haven’t had any since they became illegal ☹️ Acid is also great but it’s much more of a time and mind investment. Plus every time I take it recently I have an overpowering awareness of how old I’m getting and how I haven’t done any of the things with my life I wanted to and time is running out and aaaaaah
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I will flat out say please but giant disclaimers on (at least) telling people to take LSD or strong psychedelics. They are not for everyone and you’ll never know if you’re going to be one of those people it doesn’t agree with. I took it three times: 1st: utterly bizarre, just mad visuals and lost all sense of my outer life other than the room I was in for about eight hours. Incredibly weird but not a bad experience 2nd: very chill, no visuals, felt like some sort of content grandad in a big comfy jumper. I have no other way to describe it. 3rd: fine at first, then went to hell. Lasted an entire day, constantly doubted all my sense, saw meteors and buildings on fire out my window. Had cyclical, maddening thoughts for the entire night and drank 3(!) bottles of wine in twenty minutes in the hope of passing out - that’s how desperate I was to make it stop. It had absolutely no effect, didn’t even feel queasy. At no point I ever felt ‘insane’ or anything, I knew it was just the drugs and it would wear off. Woke up and my skin felt like soft plastic for two weeks, and a a year of very severe depression. :Edit: oh and for about three years after that I always thought Parked cars were suddenly reversing when the light reflected by their chassis moved as I did, and I gained an uncanny ability to recognise minute things in peoples faces that resembled other peoples faces. It wore off eventually but…what the gently caress was that about? I’ll never recommend anyone take anything stronger than a pint now, just to be on the safe side. Aipsh fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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WhatEvil posted:Mushrooms last for about 6 hours and Acid lasts like 10, so that's one in favour of Mushrooms IMO. When one of my brothers went to uni having never smoked or eaten anything drugish, he ended up sharing a flat with 2nd years. They put mushrooms in EVERYTHING obviously hardened to it. He had one of their mushroom omlettes stuffed full of the things and felt so scared (he said all he could see was loads of pretty coloured lights everywhere) he phoned Nightline. A friend got spiked with LSD by other 'friends' and he nearly jumped out of a window while tripping, luckily they stopped him. Again, he'd never had it before. His friends thought it was a laugh. Huh. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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Yeah I think I already said that I'd strongly recommend reading up on the effects etc. before taking anything but just to be super clear: they're not to be taken lightly. Read up on effects, precautions, how to make sure you have the right mindset and physical setting to take them, and ideally have a "trip sitter" - somebody you can trust with you.
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Don't do what my friends and I did when we first took acid aged 17: drive to a park and then have the designated drivers get bored of looking after us sober and take mdma
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Hallucinogens are the kind of thing I'd like to try, but I know my brain is already not up to code stone-cold sober, so I'd really rather not go shaking those foundations too hard.
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Guardian is playing a non-ironic regular-sized violin for the struggles of billionaires. ____________________________________________________________ I’m a therapist to the super-rich: they are as miserable as Succession makes out Clay Cockrell If I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard the term “first world problems”, my bank account would look similar to those of my clients. I work as a psychotherapist and my specialism is ultra-high net worth individuals. I got into working with billionaires by accident. I had one wealthy client, who passed my name around to their acquaintances. They are called the 1% for a reason: there are not that many of them and so the circle is tight. Over the years, I have developed a great deal of empathy for those who have far too much. The television programme Succession, now in its third season, does such a good job of exploring the kinds of toxic excess my clients struggle with that when my wife is watching it I have to leave the room; it just feels like work. What could possibly be challenging about being a billionaire, you might ask. Well, what would it be like if you couldn’t trust those close to you? Or if you looked at any new person in your life with deep suspicion? I hear this from my clients all the time: “What do they want from me?”; or “How are they going to manipulate me?”; or “They are probably only friends with me because of my money.” Then there are the struggles with purpose – the depression that sets in when you feel like you have no reason to get out of bed. Why bother going to work when the business you have built or inherited runs itself without you now? If all your necessities and much more were covered for the rest of your life – you might struggle with a lack of meaning and ambition too. My clients are often bored with life and too many times this leads to them chasing the next high – chemically or otherwise – to fill that void. Most of the people I see are much more willing to talk about their sex lives or substance-misuse problems than their bank accounts. Money is seen as dirty and secret. Money is awkward to talk about. Money is wrapped up in guilt, shame, and fear. There is a perception that money can immunise you against mental-health problems when actually, I believe that wealth can make you – and the people closest to you – much more susceptible to them. I see family situations like those in Succession all the time. People like the series’ lead character, Logan Roy, who came from humble beginnings to create an incredibly successful media empire. His entire life has been focused on his business. However, it is evident that he has failed miserably at raising fully functioning children. Too many of my clients want to indulge their children so “they never have to suffer what I had to suffer” while growing up. But the result is that they prevent their children from experiencing the very things that made them successful: sacrifice, hard work, overcoming failure and developing resilience. An over-indulged child develops into an entitled adult who has low self-confidence, low self-esteem, and a complete lack of grit. These very wealthy children start out by going to elite boarding schools and move on to elite universities – developing a language and culture among their own kind. Rarely do they create friendships with non-wealthy people; this can lead to feelings of isolation and being trapped inside a very small bubble. There are few people in the world to whom they can actually relate, which of course leads to a lack of empathy. The next time you watch Succession, see how the Roys interact with their staff and others outside their circle. Notice the awkwardness and lack of human connection and how dreadfully they treat each other. It’s fascinating and frightening. When one leads a life without consequences (for being rude to a waiter or cruel to a sibling, for example) there really is no reason to not do these things. After a while, it becomes normalised and accepted. Living a life without rules isn’t good for anyone. Succession is built on the idea of a group of wealthy children vying for who will take the mantle from their father – none of them are able to convince him that they can do it. And that is because they have reached adulthood completely unprepared to take on any responsibility. The wealthy parents I see, often because of their own guilt and shame, are not preparing their children for the challenges of managing their wealth. There is truth in the old adage “shirt sleeves to shirt sleeves in three generations”. On numerous occasions the child of a wealthy family has said to me: “We never talked about money. I don’t know how much there is or what I’m supposed to do with it. I don’t know how to take care of it. It’s all so secret and dirty.” I was raised in a small town in rural Kentucky, solidly in the middle class. And it can be very difficult to watch these individuals struggle with the toxicity of excess, isolation and deep mistrust. Succession is a dramatised version of the world they operate in – it is made for television and part of its purpose is to give audiences the pleasure of watching the wealthy struggle. But for someone who has worked with them, I know that their challenges are real and profound.
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Have you ever wondered what is like to live the life of HBO's hit dramedy Succession, available on HBO Max and Amazon Prime from only £1.89?
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WhatEvil posted:Yeah I think I already said that I'd strongly recommend reading up on the effects etc. before taking anything but just to be super clear: they're not to be taken lightly. Read up on effects, precautions, how to make sure you have the right mindset and physical setting to take them, and ideally have a "trip sitter" - somebody you can trust with you. As well as this, always keep some Valium or another benzo on you whenever you are taking hallucinogens. Just in case someone has a bad time.
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I see we're launching a rocket at a harmless asteroid or meteor or whatever it is to "test" if we can deflect it should we ever need to. I can't decide whether this is cover for the fact they're lying and the rock is actually earthbound and this is our hopeless last ditch bruce willis attempt to save ourselves. This is why boris is sitting in a fairground talking about pigs or whatever, he knows its all pointless. Or. Its exactly what they say, an innocent test run. But that they gently caress it up and deflect the angry rock right for us.
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I went through a phase when I was younger of doing mushrooms quite often. I recommend taking a double dose and then mainlining a circus balloon full of nitrous if you want to see god and the centre of existence. Just don't do what I did and then go on to watch freddy got fingered afterwards.
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Keir Starmer posted:"I think that sometimes, if I may say so, our party has come across as thinking that business is to be tolerated in some way but not to be celebrated as a good in itself,” the Labour leader told another gathering of the CBI’s multi-venue conference, this one in Birmingham. “That mindset has changed under my leadership.”
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goddamnedtwisto posted:mostly I didn't like the sensation of not being able to trust my own senses. However, liberty caps give me a nice warm fuzzy feeling which frankly just feels great, hallucinations notwithstanding (which is good news, because my buddy found & dried a load a few weeks back  ) Guavanaut posted:Have you ever wondered what is like to live the life of HBO's hit dramedy Succession, available on HBO Max and Amazon Prime from only £1.89? (if they are being paid for it, the author should still be sacked because they make it sound poo poo)
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The future of all journalism is a combination of experience advertisement, press releases, and product placement that makes that Libertarian PD piece look subtle. An explosion in an ABC1 Minicab taxi outside Morgan Stanley Dean Witter Investment Hospital has left at least one dead and one injured. The explosion occurred at 10.54am (time sponsored by Accurist) and was rated by First Transport Fire Service as 'Hot' on the Peri-ometer. Holland & Barrett Presents: The Police are not ruling out Pepsi Max terrorism. ShredsYouSay posted:
Boris Johnson posted:Arum arum aaaaaaaaag gently caress business CON+2
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ShredsYouSay posted:*Various fart sounds* Actually I don't think business should be tolerated at all Kieth, thanks.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I see we're launching a rocket at a harmless asteroid or meteor or whatever it is to "test" if we can deflect it should we ever need to. I posted something similar on FB last night, including mention of Bruce Willis' vest. Given the 'n-body problem' where n is greater than 2 and the near impossibility of calculating what will happen - I'm imagining a nudge of a small asteroid 'moon' of a big asteroid as a quantum weather butterfly (TM)* type scenario where the solar system is nudged into catastrophic chaotic behaviour. *T Pratchett
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Putin spaffed a space dick over us so now we have to spaff one over him too, otherwise we are *consults Declaration on International Cooperation in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space for the Benefit and in the Interest of All States* super gay.
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Succession is absolutely brilliant; one of the best things for years. It’s really phenomenally good. And the writer is spot-on: being very wealthy fucks you up in very specific ways. I don’t have a great deal of sympathy but he’s not wrong.
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Boris and Keith having a contest to see who can gently caress up the most And/or a drinking contest
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