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Private Cumshoe posted:That's what a spook would say I'm gonna assume you meant that as a slur and you're not calling me 'telligence, friendo *spittoon clang*
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No I would never mistake you for intelligence I'm just saying they WOULD say that because they like to clown around! The spooks that is
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Perry Mason Jar posted:I've given tons of evidence... are you really wanting me to quote my own posts or? It's not that he went to fight with the YPG it's that he participated in their mission with full knowledge that it was a gift to Erdogan and Erdogan's US-NATO allies and a poison to the civilian Kurds now living in a bombarded and toxic shithole thanks to that selfsame mission. Maybe everyone's bullshit about this poo poo being bumbling stumbling learning and growing naivety would hold water if he ever expressed any regret or remorse or indictment against the participants of this barbarism - including the cannibal and the child soldiers. forget Belden for a second, do you think this also applies to the local Kurds and their allies who fought against ISIS, and if so what should they have done differently
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was it this thread that floated "ho chi minh was a CIA asset"
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Yes he's an asset whether they paid him or not, whether he knew he was an asset or not. hmmm lol
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StashAugustine posted:forget Belden for a second, do you think this also applies to the local Kurds and their allies who fought against ISIS, and if so what should they have done differently Yes I do. They should've taken the anarcho- out of communist.
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Perry Mason Jar posted:No my goal is to get people to stop trusting anyone on superficial merits. There's a magic transformation that's allowed to occurred, where someone can call themselves a communist and then they are one. This is not, actually, how it works. and then everyone clapped
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Wasabi the J posted:As a brown dude from the south, the use of "spooks" and "those people" and a southern accent doesn't evoke the most positive image. this also made me uncomfortable. people still use that term unironically and they write and enforce laws
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Perry Mason Jar posted:No my goal is to get people to stop trusting anyone on superficial merits. There's a magic transformation that's allowed to occurred, where someone can call themselves a communist and then they are one. This is not, actually, how it works. i think that podcasters are more like shitposters than real public figures like aoc. if the podcast is a limited hangout, why not post about what the podcast is leaving out and directly contesting the things they say instead of yelling about the podcasters having tenuous connections to intelligence agencies in general, when a forums argument isn't going your way, your posts get longer and more intense. whatever good points you may have get lost in the noise as your posts get harder to read and interpret. this style of escalation is more natural and effective in face-to-face conversations or small group settings, where relationships are implicitly at stake, than the anonymous venue of a message board. using that style inappropriately sucks all of the oxygen out of the room and marks you as a crank in the classic usenet mode you would do well to refine your core arguments and make them more succinct and explicit as the conversation evolves instead of getting more and more heated and verbose, unless your goal is actually to suck all of the oxygen out of the room DR FRASIER KRANG posted:I'm serious do we know if PMJ is fishmech or not? yeah, what's your opinion of linux? Tungsten has issued a correction as of 05:12 on Nov 24, 2021 |
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Wasabi the J posted:I usually click through a few dozen user profiles and their follows, likes and media, and put together a picture of the online crowd I'm wandering into whenever I do my research on a subject. freemasonry is weird to me because it seems like a reactionary organization that is despised by other reactionary organizations is this about the stuff back in march, or have more burned down recently? are the twitter posters trying to signal-boost burning down masonic lodges in the hopes that people will burn down more? or are they funneling freemasons into anti-vax news sources? i know you're heavily implying something here but I'm not picking up on it
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Tungsten posted:i think that podcasters are more like shitposters than real public figures like aoc. if the podcast is a limited hangout, why not post about what the podcast is leaving out and directly contesting the things they say instead of yelling about the podcasters having tenuous connections to intelligence agencies yeah this is a real good point, let's say Belden is a CIA asset and trueanon is pro-americofascist propaganda (I guess that's that argument?) - so what? what exactly are they accomplishing by doing the podcast, is it just a vague defanging of the American left (something that surely doesn't need trueanon to do) or is there more? what is the podcast intentionally obfuscating? I don't give a poo poo about Belden as a person, especially if he's just the messenger of a limited hangout, so what is it about any info his podcast has communicated that we should be especially skeptical of?
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Yes I do. They should've taken the anarcho- out of communist. i agree in principle but it seems like they had pretty decent organization and I'm not sure that more effective political discipline would have let them fight without American aid (much less active antagonism)
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Wasabi the J posted:As a brown dude from the south, the use of "spooks" and "those people" and a southern accent doesn't evoke the most positive image. we can use "wights" instead
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Nov 24, 2021 05:16
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Tungsten posted:i think that podcasters are more like shitposters than real public figures like aoc. if the podcast is a limited hangout, why not post about what the podcast is leaving out and directly contesting the things they say instead of yelling about the podcasters having tenuous connections to intelligence agencies Podcasters maybe but TrueAnon takes in $88,000/month, is the 7th ranked podcast, and is the 9th ranked Patreon. https://graphtreon.com/creator/TrueAnonPod Chapo Trap House takes in $165,500/month, is the 2nd ranked podcast, and is the 2nd ranked Patreon. https://graphtreon.com/creator/chapotraphouse That's $1.06mil and $1.99mil per year, respectively. These aren't small fish. These aren't people without influence. They are public figures. I actually start from a succinct position every time and become more verbose because I'm explaining myself in increasingly elaborate ways. Only a few people follow me from the jump and I'm always replying to someone, not speaking into the void. If someone doesn't understand my reply to them they can say so and I'll explain again. I don't know what you mean about more and more heated or more intense? Couple of shits and fucks here and there? I thought it was pretty minimal... Edit: I've never used Linux and I don't know who fishmech is, sorry
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my bony fealty posted:yeah this is a real good point, let's say Belden is a CIA asset and trueanon is pro-americofascist propaganda (I guess that's that argument?) - so what? what exactly are they accomplishing by doing the podcast, is it just a vague defanging of the American left (something that surely doesn't need trueanon to do) or is there more? The very first thing I pointed out, what kicked off this multi-page fest, was the horseshoe theory shitcoating. Yes it matters if people conflate conspiracy-theorizing with far right conservatism. It matters if people are made to see communism and far-right as two sides of the same coin. StashAugustine posted:i agree in principle but it seems like they had pretty decent organization and I'm not sure that more effective political discipline would have let them fight without American aid (much less active antagonism) I can't comment on "seems like" any more than you. My feeling is that, no, you don't ever cooperate with the arch imperialist. Considering the state of the YPG and Rojava both today, I think this feeling is pretty well founded. And then moreso by way of too many examples of US doing the same thing at every possible opportunity. Perry Mason Jar has issued a correction as of 05:46 on Nov 24, 2021 |
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perry has 27 pages of posts in this thread lmao edit: i think it's pretty laughable to claim 4 people pulling in 2 million a year are "public figures". like, these people have the material power of one jetski dealership. who cares what they do to shape the conversations of a couple hundred thousand more-disempowered leftists? the police state in north america is there to wack those moles anyway Mameluke has issued a correction as of 06:32 on Nov 24, 2021 |
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Mameluke posted:perry has 27 pages of posts in this thread lmao We're talking about the #2 poster here, not some small timer. *posts graph *
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Mameluke posted:edit: i think it's pretty laughable to claim 4 people pulling in 2 million a year are "public figures". like, these people have the material power of one jetski dealership. who cares what they do to shape the conversations of a couple hundred thousand more-disempowered leftists? the police state in north america is there to wack those moles anyway They featured Belden in Rolling Stone lmao
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e--i should just be quiet I am finding myself defending trueanon for fucks sake. just the way you're going about this is very annoying.
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Tungsten posted:are the twitter posters trying to signal-boost burning down masonic lodges in the hopes that people will burn down more? or are they funneling freemasons into anti-vax news sources? I'm not really implying much other than it's a loving thing. Like you've been on the internet long enough to spot a loving parachute or throwaway, you can use that to spot bots and trolls pretty loving fast with a few username lookups and cross-references. I know that we've spent the better part of two decades giving any advertiser more access to our personal lives than the most dystopian world order, and we're out here arguing who could have POSSIBLY used that information for nefarious purposes when our secrets were on sale to the highest bidder the whole time. We give the gift of always on recording devices in your living room ffs. I strongly suspect incidents like the pro-analytica scandal happen all the time, and someone's using that data.
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crepeface posted:uhh, brace literally got promoted at the cia for his podcast work as a limited hangout we’re all going to die but it’s moments like this I’ll remember and smile as I slip into eternal darkness.
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Your fav leftist podcaster brought cancer and birth defects to civilians in Rojava. The territory which he participated in ceding to Turkey, as was his mission, was then brutalized by Erdogan in the following year and years since. He has never expressed any remorse about it. Sorry if this gruel is too thin for you but I think it's actually an obscene crime against humanity. you are either one of the biggest morons on this forum or purposely trying to derail every discussion, shut the gently caress up
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Cached Money posted:you are either one of the biggest morons on this forum or purposely trying to derail every discussion, shut the gently caress up by his own admissions PMJ is clearly a liar and troll
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has anyone considered that PMJ is a CIA op designed to draw everyone into endless arguments about podcastmen and make people who hate the CIA look crazy? just something to think about
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Perry Mason Jar posted:If DU was not employed - though in all likelihood it was - then we're left with 'only' white phosphorus. Azathoth posted:What you're saying here is something that could theoretically be true but you've not only presented no evidence for your position, you've had to walk back at least one rather incendiary claim already. 
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XMNN posted:has anyone considered that PMJ is a CIA op designed to draw everyone into endless arguments about podcastmen and make people who hate the CIA look crazy? yes. here are my conclusions: the problem is not pmj, but that conspiracy theory is the final liberal macro analysis. trying to understand the world in terms of individuals and their relations, resulting in vast explanatory gaps, then presuming there must be secret individuals and relations to fill in the gaps, instead of reasoning that’s not a good way to understand the world we live in. the thread is at its best when it looks at evidence of conspiracy from a dialectical perspective. not when it simply plays six degrees of jeff epstein. conspiracy theoretic discourse, in this thread and everywhere, will inevitably devolve to a tiresome ouroboros of recursively evaluating evidentiary value until everyone’s too exhausted to look for evidence or discuss anything. but the conspiracies are real; conspiracy theory is the op.
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZSeSh88PM/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZSeShdcUU/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZSeSrEgVr/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZSeSrohXU/ https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZSeSrn1HJ/ Although there are tiktoks for everything, I'm still having fun watching zoomers tackle these topics. Have only search JFK stuff, definitely not Epstein stuff. Lampsacus has issued a correction as of 10:34 on Nov 24, 2021 |
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StashAugustine posted:was it this thread that floated "ho chi minh was a CIA asset" this thread has been totally destroyed on purpose lmao
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Zodium posted:yes. here are my conclusions: the problem is not pmj, but that conspiracy theory is the final liberal macro analysis stfu nerd this is literally the same flavor of post that also does not belong in this thread, there is a dedicated conspiracy thread in gbs and also a pyf one where they deny reality
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Lampsacus posted:https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZSeSh88PM/ That last one is hilarious. This is still my favorite JFK tik tok, I refuse to install it on my phone though so enjoy a yt link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcuyrXVx874 Regulus74 has issued a correction as of 12:35 on Nov 24, 2021 |
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