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Tarnop posted:Reminded me of the dream infiltration gear from Inception. I wonder if it's become a kind of shorthand for illicit tech Good parallel, that's interesting. My interpretation of it in Possessor was that it meant the existence of a soul. The technology used to possess people is analog because the soul can't be digitized and turned into binary.
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Curse of the Undead is pretty rad. Some nice imagery in it, and some very Catholic dialogue about the nature of evil, and some kinda subtle references to vampire lore. In one case, a character states that her putting up a wanted poster invited a gunslinger into her home (the gunslinger being a vampire) and explaining how he could walk right in. Vampire gunslinger being put off by a cross: 
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:It is Ghosts Of War that I keep seeing that I was interested in. I never seem to remember it when it's time to pick a movie though. I'm torn between hoping someone besides me sees this and hoping you watch something better instead. It's a film that made bad choices.
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Nov 24, 2021 06:16
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I watched Fingers (2019) last week. It was astonishing, like a movie made by aliens. Wildly entertaining though.
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Nov 24, 2021 06:28
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Zwabu posted:This is completely the vibe from the Weird War type comics from my childhood. I haven't thought about that comic in ages. I had some when I was a kid and I remember them being pretty decent.
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Nov 24, 2021 07:53
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Maybe not strictly horror, but The Valley of Gwangi is a fun monster movie/western.
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Zwabu posted:While we're covering horror Westerns and genre mashups, what about horror in a war setting? Blood Vessel is decent, great creature design. Deathwatch nailed the setting, but the movie isn't that great. Trench 11 starts great but is severely hampered by its 90% of the movie taking place in the exact same boring location and ends up disappointing. Frankenstein's Army has some cool costumes and not much else. This one was filmed after a previous project, Worst Case Scenario, got cancelled before it finished. I must've watched that trailer a gazillion times and even bought the promo DVD to fund the project. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYTYqaewAQ8 A lot of the zombies in that trailer were repurposed for Frankenstein's Army. Ghosts Of War is absolutely awful, avoid it. Comedy option, watch Shadow in the Cloud. I had no idea why people were making fun of that one, but it just gets dumber and dumber and then gives you one of the most ridiculously scenes ever. Regarding comic books, you probably mean Creature Commandos
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Nov 24, 2021 08:58
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BioTech posted:Worst Case Scenario, got cancelled before it finished. I must've watched that trailer a gazillion times and even bought the promo DVD to fund the project. Oh wow, I remember this trailer. It was way back in like 2005, 2006 or so?
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Scissorfighter posted:While I enjoy all those movies quite a bit, you're definitely feeling the loss of Sally Menke's editing. The editing from Inglourious Basterds to Django was a pretty big downturn. Very possible, there's definitely a line between Kill Bill and Death Proof for me (the first half I quite like and which could kiiiiiiiinda work as a horror movie if you stretch it a bit). Basterds is the odd one out for me; I recognize it has all the same long slow scenes and endless dialogue that bore me in his later movies but I absolutely love everything about it and wish it were even longer. If I need to kill 20 minutes I'll still put on the movie and watch that first scene with Waltz at the dairy farm. Tarantino has said that's his favorite bit of writing he's ever done and I agree. I guess WWII is just a more engaging backdrop to hang all his Tarantion-y characters off of rather than the old west or 60s Hollywood...
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Nov 24, 2021 10:19
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MrMojok posted:Oh wow, I remember this trailer. It was way back in like 2005, 2006 or so? Sounds about right. Here was the other trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ-pQmQw7t8 God, I still get hyped for this even though I've long accepted it's never going to happen beyond Frankenstein's Army.
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Nov 24, 2021 11:07
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BioTech posted:Frankenstein's Army has some cool costumes and not much else. Oh wow, I had Frankenstein's Army on my last for last month but didn't get around it it, I had no idea it was related to Worst Case Scenario.
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Bruteman posted:Oh wow, I had Frankenstein's Army on my last for last month but didn't get around it it, I had no idea it was related to Worst Case Scenario. It becomes really obvious when this guy show up in FA, especially with how he is also the thumbnail for the WCS trailer. 
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Nov 24, 2021 12:06
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Frankenstein’s Army was what I wanted overlord to be. I thought it was pretty cool and lived up to its promise of secret nazi experiments
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I still can't get over Devon Sawa being all dilfy in Chucky. He looks like a completely different person now.
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Scissorfighter posted:While I enjoy all those movies quite a bit, you're definitely feeling the loss of Sally Menke's editing. The editing from Inglourious Basterds to Django was a pretty big downturn. This is exactly it. In the same vein, I honestly thought Thelma Schoonmaker had died when I suffered through the Irishman.
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Kvlt! posted:As I'm sure many of you know, I've always HATED the "horrific/gruesome content = horror movie" thing. Movies like the Nightingale or the Proposition are both movies that are absolutely 0% horror but because they're brutal get lumped in. If you define horror like that it opens up the genre to so many movies that the label becomes absolutely meaningless. I appreciate the point, but if you're disallowing movies for being pure brutality with no real horror then you're throwing out pretty much the entire Friday franchise. To me, a movie is more horrific if it features real - or at least, realistic - people.
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Nov 24, 2021 15:00
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Zwabu posted:This is completely the vibe from the Weird War type comics from my childhood. That series is also where the Creature Commandos first appeared - a WWII American commando unit made up of a vampire, a werewolf, a Frankenstein and a Medusa. Their series ended with them being loaded into a missile aimed at Hitler's HQ but veering off course into outer space.
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Nov 24, 2021 15:52
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Scissorfighter posted:I still can't get over Devon Sawa being all dilfy in Chucky. He looks like a completely different person now. I'm glad Chucky yet again has an absolutely insane plan. I like how that's just his thing; serial killer with ridiculous plans.
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Jedit posted:I appreciate the point, but if you're disallowing movies for being pure brutality with no real horror then you're throwing out pretty much the entire Friday franchise. To me, a movie is more horrific if it features real - or at least, realistic - people. I think horror is dictated by style more than anything else - it's in the "how" it presents its story rather than the "what". A film about a mouse being pursued by a cat is often a comedy (Tom and Jerry), but if you presented that story in a certain way, perhaps from the Mouse's perspective, emphasising the monstrosity and terror of the cat, utilising cinematic form to create dread etc then it could easily become horror. The Friday films are horror due to that style, they ARE trying to create dread and fear on a consistent basis. You are made to identify with the victims to an extent, you are meant to feel vulnerable and scared by Jason as they are*. Whereas something like Casino may have just as horrific brutality but the style is not presented as horror, the violence is there to depict the ruthlessness of the characters, and not specifically to menace the viewer, you are less invited to identify with the victims, to be placed in that perspective of vulnerability. Often you empathise with the killers. *Obviously most people here aren't scared by the Friday films, but that is the mechanism of how those films are presented.
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Chucky: The whole scene where Junior kills his dad and then slowly starts singing "We Got The Beat" was impressively bonkers and hilarious. Next week gonna own.
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Darko posted:I'm glad Chucky yet again has an absolutely insane plan. I like how that's just his thing; serial killer with ridiculous plans. Trying to figure out exactly what the "plan" is here, but I assume what Chucky needed was to corrupt one Hackensack child in order to complete some voodoo ritual he set in motion, hence why all the Good Guys awakened at once including the Billy one that Jake brought with him. Beyond that, I mean I dunno why Chucky needs a Chucky army, but... Chucky gonna Chucky.
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I suppose Dead Snow and its sequel are in the basic theme of war horror. The stories could have come straight out of Weird War Tales.
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Also I finished Midnight Mass. Awesome concept underlying it. Ponderous execution, slow as molasses and way too talky. I want the vampires to be scary and menacing not awkward overly verbose nerds who talk like undergrad philosophy majors late night bullshitting in a dorm. The main flying vampire is impressive and scary but it feels not enough payoff to justify the rest.
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Karloff posted:I think horror is dictated by style more than I dunno, I feel by The Final Chapter at the latest the films have given up trying to be traditionally scary and are more "watch to see what cool death scenes there are." And Jason Lives is blatantly a comedy (as is Jason X.)
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graventy posted:Night of the Demons 2 > Night of the Demons >>>>>>>>>> Night of the Demons 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Night of the Demons remake Just want to second that this is 100% absolute fact
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It's always interesting to me to think about something like Jason Lives because it's a movie that terrified me as a kid. I think for most people their experience with the Friday the 13th series probably was drastically different depending on what age they saw them. Because while there's plenty of jokes in the later sequels, there's still always plenty of intense stalking and kills scenes as well, and sometimes both in the same scene. Like, when the woman gets speared in the face by Jason, and you get the gag where she was holding the Mastercard and you see it floating in the puddle, that's not a funny scene. It's a joke that will probably only land with adults, and the kill itself is very disturbing, the woman is begging for her life etc. Or the one where Jason basically breaks the sheriff in half. That one really got me as a kid, there was no "hahaha oh man he really hosed that guy up" reaction from me when I saw that at age 10 or however old I was at the time.
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Basebf555 posted:I think for most people their experience with the Friday the 13th series probably was drastically different depending on what age they saw them. This is absolutely true. I saw NoES when I was maybe 12 or 13 and it scared the gently caress out of me while watching, and then did it again when I had to go to sleep. Watching it now isn't scary but it absolutely reminds me of my first viewing, especially the scene where bodybag Tina shows up at school. My first Friday 13th film was Jason X when I was about 20 and for me those films are just a series of cool kills and a sort of interesting study in how a franchise can limp on through multiple endings.
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Nov 24, 2021 20:17
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About to watch Jason Takes Manhattan for the first time. Interestingly, considering the last two posts here, Amazon has this to say about it: Genres Suspense, Horror, Young Adult Audience e: this must have the most 80s-sounding (and non-horror sounding) opening credits song of any horror film ever MrMojok fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Nov 24, 2021 |
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Thinking back on it I was pretty lucky because I experienced basically all of the major slasher/horror icons before I hit that apathetic teen stage where nothing was scary anymore. Even Scream and it's imitators like I Know What You Did Last Summer scared me, I was about 12 when those came out. But I saw plenty of Michael, Freddy, Jason, Pinhead, and Chucky on cable t.v. and so I'm always able to tap into those memories when I rewatch them today. And I don't know that I really have missed out on much since then either. Like, what horror icons have there been that I would've been terrified of had I seen them at a younger age? Jigsaw?
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Nov 24, 2021 20:23
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Yeah, Friday was the one that got away for me. I saw all the other iconic stuff way too young (ie at the perfect time) and I love them to this day
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Basebf555 posted:And I don't know that I really have missed out on much since then either. Like, what horror icons have there been that I would've been terrified of had I seen them at a younger age? Jigsaw? Saw is an interesting one. I was definitely in that jaded horror fan phase at that point, until Ringu and j-horror in general snapped me out of it for a few years, then found footage did again. Saw isn't scary but the concept definitely burrows into my brain a bit. Self surgery and self mutilation has always made me wince and the best film depictions give me legit sympathy pains. The Saw series also contains a scene that really got under my skin: it's the one in Saw 3 where the guy is going to drown in liquefied rotten pig carcasses. Drowning scares me to think about and I remember feeling like I could smell the rotting meat when I first watched it
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Basebf555 posted:It's always interesting to me to think about something like Jason Lives because it's a movie that terrified me as a kid. I think for most people their experience with the Friday the 13th series probably was drastically different depending on what age they saw them. Because while there's plenty of jokes in the later sequels, there's still always plenty of intense stalking and kills scenes as well, and sometimes both in the same scene. Like, when the woman gets speared in the face by Jason, and you get the gag where she was holding the Mastercard and you see it floating in the puddle, that's not a funny scene. It's a joke that will probably only land with adults, and the kill itself is very disturbing, the woman is begging for her life etc. It helps that Jason himself is never treated as a joke in the movie. Other characters act wacky or make jokes, but Jason is deadpan serious the whole way through.
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When I was a teenager Amityville Horror (Ryan Reynolds one) scared me enough that I stayed up multiple nights until 315 AM staring at the clock because I was so scared but watching it now it's the goofiest poo poo imaginable.
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You're Next really doesn't get enough credit for just being a drat good, tense slasher movie with a great premise and just enough blood. Young me definitely would've loved it too. But it was set up as a totally self-contained story and the killers were generic to the point where you can't really do anything with them... like you're not going to see kids going around wearing tactical gear and cheap plastic animal masks because they loved those characters so much. Other than Saw I can't really think of many (or any?) modern slasher/horror icons.
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King Vidiot posted:Other than Saw I can't really think of many (or any?) modern slasher/horror icons. I suppose this speaks to the willingness of studios to greenlight horror movies without a franchise name attached. Given that it feels like we're in a pretty good time for horror with some great debut features being made, that's got to be a good thing for the genre overall
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I also think that slashers in general are not big anymore and the ones that are are tongue in cheek or at least extremely meta to the point of the slasher villain themselves not really mattering.
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Nov 24, 2021 20:54
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does Gabriel from Malignant count
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Darko posted:I'm glad Chucky yet again has an absolutely insane plan. I like how that's just his thing; serial killer with ridiculous plans. To be fair, “put my soul in a doll and see where that goes” is a ridiculous plan on its face, but it worked! Why fix what ain’t broken?
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I was the perfect age for 80s slashers; Nightmare 3 came out when I was 8, for instance. Kids that were able to see the latest slasher would always tell all the other kids about them on the playground; building up the legacy/anticipation of Jason/Freddy/Michael even more than if we had seen them on our own on release. I had to sneak and watch a lot when they came on regular TV, which also meant I saw the weirdest entries in all of the series that were missing the main slasher or just being weird because those hit syndication more for some reason. When I was that age, my first of each were Friday 1, Halloween 3, and Nightmare 2 and I would just hear about crazy fun Nightmare 3/4 and Friday 6 via kids telling me about them until I eventually saw them.
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Gabriel counts for me. I eagerly await all the sequels that I hope that movie generates.
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