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Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

I don't understand how someone can be "extremely against infant adoption" to the point that she can "rant for hours about how it should be banned."

I understand not wanting to adopt an infant... but like... what should be done for orphaned or unwanted infants if not put up for adoption? It feel like this isn't a well thought out position.

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duck trucker
Oct 14, 2017

YOSPOS

Hellblazer187 posted:

I don't understand how someone can be "extremely against infant adoption" to the point that she can "rant for hours about how it should be banned."

I understand not wanting to adopt an infant... but like... what should be done for orphaned or unwanted infants if not put up for adoption? It feel like this isn't a well thought out position.

Because those adoptive parents are lazy and just need to steal a babypull themselves up by their bootstraps

Invisible Clergy
Sep 25, 2015

"Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces"

Malachi 2:3

Hellblazer187 posted:

I don't understand how someone can be "extremely against infant adoption" to the point that she can "rant for hours about how it should be banned."

I understand not wanting to adopt an infant... but like... what should be done for orphaned or unwanted infants if not put up for adoption? It feel like this isn't a well thought out position.

It's a pretty standard thing parroted by chuds. Kind of part of their 14 words and all. They don't want whites adopting nonwhite babies because bla bla race cucking, great replacement white supremacist poo poo, and by the same token definitely don't want white mothers to give up their white babies because they want all women to be constantly pregnant to make them easier to enslave. They want orphaned children working in dickensian workhouses once they finish abolishing child labor (they've already ground it down to 14 in some states for non-agricultural labor) and people who are forced to birth unwanted infants due to them overturning roe should just be forced to raise them (but not given any money or resources to make this easier, obviously) Thinking isn't exactly their strong suit.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

yeah I'm sure white supremacists believe that but the op is Mexican

zakharov
Nov 30, 2002

:kimchi: Tater Love :kimchi:
We already had one adoption-hating main character in this thread!

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

I've heard a lot of the segregationist progressives argue against race mixed adoptions, particularly white/black either direction. The arguments I heard don't hold much water to me though.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

We had that story of the chick who went berserk on her sister thinking she'd adopted a child earlier and kept fighting with everyone in the comments about how if adoption wasn't an option her bio parents definitely would have wanted and been able to care for her, I don't think there's really a coherent ideological position at work there

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Nov 24, 2021

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

Hellblazer187 posted:

I don't understand how someone can be "extremely against infant adoption" to the point that she can "rant for hours about how it should be banned."

I understand not wanting to adopt an infant... but like... what should be done for orphaned or unwanted infants if not put up for adoption? It feel like this isn't a well thought out position.

I think it's purely self regard, with no thought towards consistency or society whatsoever.. They want to identify as a mother, and they don't want to identify as a person who adopts. Maybe even feel that adopted kids are 'fake' kids.

Those who have difficulty having kids often put the act of having them ever higher on a pedestal

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

oh jay posted:

If you're already well off, you can fail this many times and more by having separate LLCs for each venture. Latching on to the Dance Studio example, I have an acquaintance who is on her fourth studio right now, because she lost no personal money when each one went under, and knows where to go to for fundraising when it's time to buy a new one.

I love how multiple failed dance studios is just a thing in the dance world.

See this is what I was talking about when I said she'd do everything the worst way possible. There was no LLC, it was just a personal purchase and everything related to the studio just went on her regular credit cards. So all the debt she accrued from running a studio she couldn't quite afford was personal credit card debt. They'd do everything that way.

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

Invisible Clergy posted:

(they've already ground it down to 14 in some states for non-agricultural labor)

Hasn't it been that way forever for part time work? I'm almost 40 and I got my first job at age 14.

Yeah the rest of your post tracks though.

Tarkus posted:

the segregationist progressives

The what now?

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Hellblazer187 posted:

I don't understand how someone can be "extremely against infant adoption" to the point that she can "rant for hours about how it should be banned."

I understand not wanting to adopt an infant... but like... what should be done for orphaned or unwanted infants if not put up for adoption? It feel like this isn't a well thought out position.
Charitably it sounds like her husband experienced abuse from his adoptive parents and she took it to the stupidest possible conclusion, which is that adoption is the great evil and not child abuse.

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan

Ghost Leviathan posted:

If people won't accept literally anything you give them because the thought counts, and consider it a plus if it's something they actually like, then they can get tae gently caress, as the Irish probably say.

Like, random rear end poo poo for Christmas works for me and the folks I live with, because it's hard enough as it is sometimes.
if i throw a dog a bone i don't need to know how it tastes

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

Hellblazer187 posted:

Hasn't it been that way forever for part time work? I'm almost 40 and I got my first job at age 14.

Yeah the rest of your post tracks though.

The what now?

Believe it or not there are progressives who believe that people of different skin colors should limit their activities between each other. Killer Mike is a pretty prominent segregationist but also a progressive.

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


Hellblazer187 posted:

The what now?

My experience with the type is well meaning, usually white, ostensible allies who don't quite know what cultural appropriation is but fight against it so hard they recreate separate but equal.

AnoHito
May 8, 2014

Hellblazer187 posted:

I don't understand how someone can be "extremely against infant adoption" to the point that she can "rant for hours about how it should be banned."

I understand not wanting to adopt an infant... but like... what should be done for orphaned or unwanted infants if not put up for adoption? It feel like this isn't a well thought out position.

From the comments, the husband apparently had a super-lovely experience with being adopted, to the point where I frankly can't blame him for not being too keen on the concept.

quote:

His parents were very young when they had him, I believe is mother was in an abusive home, and his adoptive parents were on the market for a baby. His bios were promised an open adoption, and were promised he'd be raised knowing his heritage, adoption agency going as far as saying they'd place him with a Jewish family. Adoption was finalised before they met the parents.

When he was young his adoptive parents cut off his bios, moved him across the country and raised him very Christian. He's now learning about his heritage, and his religion with his bios. And I know all of this because he literally never stops talking about it.

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

Tarkus posted:

Believe it or not there are progressives who believe that people of different skin colors should limit their activities between each other. Killer Mike is a pretty prominent segregationist but also a progressive.

He's literally famous for rapping with a white guy so is he really a segregationist? I've seen some of his stuff about supporting black owned business but that doesn't seem like segregationism to me.

Soylent Pudding posted:

My experience with the type is well meaning, usually white, ostensible allies who don't quite know what cultural appropriation is but fight against it so hard they recreate separate but equal.

OK I kind of know the type you're talking about I think.

Edit:

AnoHito posted:

From the comments, the husband apparently had a super-lovely experience with being adopted, to the point where I frankly can't blame him for not being too keen on the concept.

Yeah that's a lovely experience and I get it. I still think this is the wrong conclusion (especially if it led to straight up baby stealing) but yeah I guess I can't blame the guy for having concerns.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


The woman my [29 m] boyfriend cheated on me [27 M] with is pregnant and doesn't want the baby but I might

quote:

She's due in five months, and it's a boy. My boyfriend told me about her as soon as it happened and we'd only just been finding some sort of new normal when we heard the big new.

It hurt when he told me. It really did. We've been together for two years. We'd been talking about getting married - I was thinking about seriously asking him if we were gonna actually do it, figuring out a date - Spring of 2023, maybe April or May was what I wanted. All that's had to be put on hold until we figure the rest of this out. For the first month or so I wasn't sure if I was gonna stay.

I still love him, though, and I want this to work, and it looks like he does, too. We've been working so hard to get through this, we've been seeing a therapist, all the stuff you think of when that kind of thing happens. I still feel sick thinking about her, and some days I'm still furious about what he did.

But, if I stay, and we adopt this baby, we could have a family.

I want that. I want that more than anything I've ever wanted before. I've wanted to be a dad for pretty much my entire life - it's the one thing that's stayed consistent for as long as I can remember, even before I realized I was gay. I thought maybe he and I would adopt, or become foster parents or something.

I'm still furious about him, and I'm pretty sure after last night he thinks I'm leaving him, but the fact is (and I know it's not healthy) I spent all of last night on the couch thinking up baby names, looking at schools in the area, looking at the timeline of development for newborns. I want him to call me tato - it's Ukrainian, it's what I called my dad when I was little. My boyfriend is an only child but he's close to his extended family, and on my side he would have a litter of cousins to play with already since I'm the youngest. We have a guest bedroom that would suffice as a nursery but when he's older I would want to move somewhere where we would actually own the house, somewhere with a yard. This is weird but I hope he hugs like my boyfriend - putting exactly the right amount of pressure on the exact right places to make you feel like you're safe, like you're the only other person in the world.

So yeah, that's basically the situation. I thought kids would be something a couple years ahead of me, maybe in my thirties, but now all of a sudden it could be that five months from now we have a family and I want that badly enough that it's painful. Any advice?

tldr: my boyfriend cheated, she's carrying his baby and wants to put it up for adoption, and I might want us to adopt it.

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

AnoHito posted:

From the comments, the husband apparently had a super-lovely experience with being adopted, to the point where I frankly can't blame him for not being too keen on the concept.

Well this makes sense. The husband is a survivor of antisemitic cultural genocide. It's not unlike what we americans are currently doing in stealing children from immigrants stuck in concentration camps and adopting the to white families.

What doesn't make sense is the two of them not realizing they could adopt an infant and still do their best to raise the child in their original culture. Unless they live in WASP Town? I don't know. It's a complicated subject and I hope those babies in the post are safe.

MagusofStars
Mar 31, 2012



Soylent Pudding posted:

AITA For asking my sister where she got her babies from?
This update is, uh, not what I was guessing:

quote:

UPDATE

I just got off the phone with my sister, and I'm almost happy that some of you were partially right. Both children were concieved with other women. My BIL is a sex worker (which is not something I ever wanted to know). I guess, in porn, raw pays better. He got the first woman pregnant, she expressed that she didnt want the baby, and basically asked my BIL if he did. She wasnt interested in an abortion, and was planning on putting the baby up for adoption.

He spoke to my sister, they agreed to take the baby. She now sees her bio mom as she wants. Baby number two was similar, except his bio mom didnt want to give the baby up - it was meant to go to court for split custody and such. Baby was born premature and he has brain damage. I'm not sure what exactly happened, but bio mom abandoned him at the hospital with my BILs name. He was contacted, they now have the baby, and are still trying to get into contact with bio mom.

She basically said sorry for overreacting, and that she was just embarrassed. I guess not everyone wants to admit their husband does porn? I do suppose it explains how they have so much money lol.

I'm just happy the babies are being taken care of. My sister is now unblocking and apologising to family, and I've been roped into explaining everything to them. So thats going to be fun. But honestly, this went so much better than I expected. I guess her aversions make more sense now.

Thats all for the update, I believe. I am making plans to drive down and visit them, though. She's been stretched thin.

Oh - and her current baby is IVF, with donor eggs, for everyone who was wondering. They wanted two close together, their son just popped in in the middle. They had it planned so the kids would be about a year apart. Baby is due in fourteen weeks, so they'll have a thirteen m/o, seven m/o and a newborn.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

it dont matter posted:

Every time someone throws a wobbly and storms out, this is the reason you should give for their sudden departure.

If I get the runs in a party situation, I just blow up the bathroom there and hope I don't get spotted leaving the scene of the crime.
AITA?

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

MagusofStars posted:

This update is, uh, not what I was guessing:

what the fuuuck

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

can't wait for the next update in like a year when they're doing Cheaper By The Dozen with porno oops babies

DemoneeHo
Nov 9, 2017

Come on hee-ho, just give us 300 more macca


MagusofStars posted:

This update is, uh, not what I was guessing:

Honestly this was the best possible explanation. It's weird as hell, but any other situation would have required a call to the FBI.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

MagusofStars posted:

This update is, uh, not what I was guessing:

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

MagusofStars posted:

This update is, uh, not what I was guessing:

wow

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

lol. I'm so embarrassed about my husband's job, don't tell anyone (except the entire world via reddit).

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007
Ok but who are these women doing porn without protection and no birth control because what the gently caress

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

DemoneeHo posted:

Honestly this was the best possible explanation. It's weird as hell, but any other situation would have required a call to the FBI.

honestly not convinced it isn't a kidnapping situation and this is just the most normal-sounding cover story she could come up with

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Well. At least that escalated in a way that doesn't involve kidnapping.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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Kenshin posted:

Ok but who are these women doing porn without protection and no birth control because what the gently caress

Yeah I would have figured there'd be lots of, uh, safeguards there. Is this creepy risk part of the "appeal"?

DemoneeHo
Nov 9, 2017

Come on hee-ho, just give us 300 more macca


Arsenic Lupin posted:

The woman my [29 m] boyfriend cheated on me [27 M] with is pregnant and doesn't want the baby but I might

I don't really have much to say on this one, except that i hope everyone involved gets a happy outcome



Kenshin posted:

Ok but who are these women doing porn without protection and no birth control because what the gently caress

I have no idea how much birth control costs. But i imagine if you're doing raw bareback porn, you have no money and need the money because i can't (or don't want to) think of any other reason you'd do it.

RenegadeStyle1
Jun 7, 2005

Baby Come Back
How the hell does someone watching a porn know if you're using protection or not? Obviously they know with condoms but I mean other forms.

TheWeedNumber
Apr 20, 2020

by sebmojo

Johnny Truant posted:

she made another one about it!

TIFU by kicking out my boyfriend after he offered to help pay off my credit card debt

respect my autonomy of allowing you to pay for my life! :mad:

I’m so glad she got shitcanned for being so ridiculous lol

Everett False
Sep 28, 2006

Mopsy, I'm starting to question your medical credentials.

Maybe they wanted to break into the breeder fetish market.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

RenegadeStyle1 posted:

How the hell does someone watching a porn know if you're using protection or not? Obviously they know with condoms but I mean other forms.

Rhythm method acting

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:

well yeah, container homes are the same trend as tiny homes or van living except instead of aesthetically presenting like a surf hobo or aesthetically presenting like a twee forest hermit, you want to aesthetically present as someone who would build their home out of milk crates and scrap lumber if the drat tyrants down at the planning board weren't being brainwashed by the UN into enforcing made up ideas like "fire codes"

all of this because people who read design blogs find singlewides too dismal, they'd rather live in a tow trailer or a heap of scrap metal

Scrapmetal Singlewide is my new flipper show title, do not steal.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

RenegadeStyle1 posted:

How the hell does someone watching a porn know if you're using protection or not? Obviously they know with condoms but I mean other forms.

Because you can’t lie in porn. Everyone knows this.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Soylent Pudding posted:

Lol that's great.

e: content

AITA For asking my sister where she got her babies from?

Well, at least it's not murder...
[quote]UPDATE

Duh, should have read the rest of the thread.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

hawowanlawow posted:

open and shut case, time to see just how lazy the cops are

(they probably won't do poo poo)

"It's a civil matter."

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

DemoneeHo posted:

I don't really have much to say on this one, except that i hope everyone involved gets a happy outcome

I have no idea how much birth control costs. But i imagine if you're doing raw bareback porn, you have no money and need the money because i can't (or don't want to) think of any other reason you'd do it.

Like 99% of porn is raw, to the point where studios fight hard against condom mandates because it sells so much worse. I'm sure any company or business shooting porn would pay for birth control if that was an issue, or give out Plan B like candy on sets.

It's extremely unlikely that story is true, because for the BIL to somehow get 2 women pregnant while filming porn it would mean he is working for the sketchiest, most dangerous, unregulated shoot possible and he's likely got a boatload of STDs. "My husband is a sex worker" still doesn't sound believable to explain how you end up with two babies.

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