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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Technowolf posted:

Why was Michael using the Force to sense when the gravity waves were coming?

She was feeling the reprogrammable matter in the chair.

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Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


Technowolf posted:

Why was Michael using the Force to sense when the gravity waves were coming?
Humans can sense patterns

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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Actually, Humans are the only ones in the galaxy who can. Everyone else just reacts to seemingly random stimuli. Also explains their clothing choices...

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Why does this show suck so much?

blastron
Dec 11, 2007

Don't doodle on it!


Can we please keep the emotional character arcs to, like, two per episode? I'm all for long-form character growth, but holy poo poo, everything outside of Booker being next to nonfunctional since his entire planet was blown up the number of simultaneous character beats was overwhelming. Can we have a Tilly/Adira episode where they work on a cool science project and figure out their working relationship, rather than the currently-in-progress crisis destroying the ship suddenly pausing for a minute so that Tilly and Culber can have a heart-to-heart?

I'm also starting to get irritated by the whole "Gray gets his body back" arc because so far it's been very intrusive. I'd be happy with it if it were explored in proper B-plots, but it feels like they're just stuffing two-minute chunks of the plot in the middle of each episode wherever it might fit.

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


blastron posted:

Can we please keep the emotional character arcs to, like, two per episode? I'm all for long-form character growth, but holy poo poo, everything outside of Booker being next to nonfunctional since his entire planet was blown up the number of simultaneous character beats was overwhelming. Can we have a Tilly/Adira episode where they work on a cool science project and figure out their working relationship, rather than the currently-in-progress crisis destroying the ship suddenly pausing for a minute so that Tilly and Culber can have a heart-to-heart?

I'm also starting to get irritated by the whole "Gray gets his body back" arc because so far it's been very intrusive. I'd be happy with it if it were explored in proper B-plots, but it feels like they're just stuffing two-minute chunks of the plot in the middle of each episode wherever it might fit.

yeah but now we know picard is a golem

Super Deuce
May 25, 2006
TOILETS
Oh, I like the smell of my own dumps.
... so they understand that it’s not possible to visualize something 5 light years across, right? Like... you can’t see the end of it... unless you were to wait 5 years.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Super Deuce posted:

... so they understand that it’s not possible to visualize something 5 light years across, right? Like... you can’t see the end of it... unless you were to wait 5 years.

I haven't seen the episode yet but uhh in general things get smaller when you get farther away from them regardless of how large they actually are

blastron
Dec 11, 2007

Don't doodle on it!


Super Deuce posted:

... so they understand that it’s not possible to visualize something 5 light years across, right? Like... you can’t see the end of it... unless you were to wait 5 years.

Have you ever watched an episode of Star Trek before? Sensors are magic that can detect whatever the plot needs them to detect at whatever range is necessary.

xerxus
Apr 24, 2010
Grimey Drawer

Super Deuce posted:

... so they understand that it’s not possible to visualize something 5 light years across, right? Like... you can’t see the end of it... unless you were to wait 5 years.

There's also no sound in space, but alas

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008



It is impossible to see this picture.

e: and 'subspace' has always been Star Trek's get out of jail free card from having to worry about real life physics

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Snow Cone Capone posted:

I haven't seen the episode yet but uhh in general things get smaller when you get farther away from them regardless of how large they actually are

The last shot kind of implies five light years is a galactic scale object so who the gently caress knows.

Anyway Star Trek has always had FTL sensors.

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



Super Deuce posted:

... so they understand that it’s not possible to visualize something 5 light years across, right? Like... you can’t see the end of it... unless you were to wait 5 years.
The visualization isn't of light, it's just a computer-generated representation of gravitational forces or some bullshit like that. At no point can they even see the entire thing on their screen, which is why the stupid "bridge crew gasp" sound effect played when they put it up. The only reason we see it during the final scene as we zoom out is because we're being shown that representation. I think.

There's probably a few dozen reasons why a 5 light year wide black hole with an accretion disc you can enter and exit makes no sense but it doesn't matter because whatever this phenomena is, it's not a couple black holes. Whatever it is, I'm sure it's stupid.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Looked like a salamander's eye to me. Threshold finally getting its follow-up.

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

A bunch of people got killed in an explosion and it's super sad and traumatic. I can't put my finger on it, but this story sounds super familiar. Almost like something I wasn't supposed to forget...

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


Drink-Mix Man posted:

A bunch of people got killed in an explosion and it's super sad and traumatic. I can't put my finger on it, but this story sounds super familiar. Almost like something I wasn't supposed to forget...

star trek into darkness?

blastron
Dec 11, 2007

Don't doodle on it!



The implication here is that at some point Earth adopted a unified Thanksgiving holiday.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Ramadu posted:

star trek into darkness?

Wait, is that movie 9, or 11?

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

blastron posted:

Have you ever watched an episode of Star Trek before? Sensors are magic that can detect whatever the plot needs them to detect at whatever range is necessary.

But its extremely bullshit here.
Can't see poo poo at 5 ly, but can at 4.9999999999999 ly

Don't even think they mentioned how fast it was moving have they? 5 ly is big but who cares if its moving less than light speed.
It needs to be moving loving warp speed 4-5+ to get anywhere quick.

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



happyhippy posted:

But its extremely bullshit here.
Can't see poo poo at 5 ly, but can at 4.9999999999999 ly

Don't even think they mentioned how fast it was moving have they? 5 ly is big but who cares if its moving less than light speed.
It needs to be moving loving warp speed 4-5+ to get anywhere quick.
Unfortunately Star Trek has a long, long history of not knowing what the speed of light is and why most things should not be able to go faster than it.

Edit: One of the more egregious moments this happens is in a Season 1 episode of TNG. They finds a planet that steals some kids and pushes the Enterprise away for a few seconds. Once those seconds are up, a position report is given that they are "3 days away from the planet at warp 9." Then at the end of the episode, Picard and the leader of the planet shake hands in agreement about helping each other with technology. This isn't even the only time they say tech knowledge is exchanged with a race that makes them move faster than light. Just give up caring about it lol.

DaveKap fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Nov 26, 2021

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





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They remembered that the ship's computer being Zora was a thing :woop:

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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pik_d posted:

They remembered that the ship's computer being Zora was a thing :woop:

I haven't watched any of this season but, uh, what does this mean for "Calypso"? Is the V'Draysh still a thing? Was Craft supposed to be Book or another dude from a similar world? They both had True Name poo poo going on... I just have a lot of trouble fitting Calypso into the setting.

Super Deuce
May 25, 2006
TOILETS
Oh, I like the smell of my own dumps.

happyhippy posted:

But its extremely bullshit here.
Can't see poo poo at 5 ly, but can at 4.9999999999999 ly

Don't even think they mentioned how fast it was moving have they? 5 ly is big but who cares if its moving less than light speed.
It needs to be moving loving warp speed 4-5+ to get anywhere quick.

That’s what I’m saying. If this thing is moving and it’s 5 light years across, when they zoom out from it to show it you wouldn’t see it all. Because like.... the light from one side of it wouldn’t be there yet. You’d only see what’s right in front of you. So when they zoomed out to show the whole thing it made no sense.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Super Deuce posted:

That’s what I’m saying. If this thing is moving and it’s 5 light years across, when they zoom out from it to show it you wouldn’t see it all. Because like.... the light from one side of it wouldn’t be there yet. You’d only see what’s right in front of you. So when they zoomed out to show the whole thing it made no sense.

They've always visualised things with subspace sensors.

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret
Im going to say the meanest poo poo I've ever thought of Discovery and I expect you to trounce me thoroughly for it

Science can fix a rib but not acne?

Roadie
Jun 30, 2013

Super Deuce posted:

That’s what I’m saying. If this thing is moving and it’s 5 light years across, when they zoom out from it to show it you wouldn’t see it all. Because like.... the light from one side of it wouldn’t be there yet. You’d only see what’s right in front of you. So when they zoomed out to show the whole thing it made no sense.

Even before considering subspace sensors... have you thought about the existence of image compositing?

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

apatheticman posted:

Im going to say the meanest poo poo I've ever thought of Discovery and I expect you to trounce me thoroughly for it

Science can fix a rib but not acne?

In the future it was found that, that particular inflection is actually caused by a bored Q.

Science shall never help.

Super Deuce
May 25, 2006
TOILETS
Oh, I like the smell of my own dumps.
I’m talking about when they zoom out from the ship. It makes no sense for it to be visually something we can see completely. The size of it would be... you can’t show it. If it’s capable of moving itself at speeds like it has it wasn’t there long enough to be seen in its entirety. Like, to zoom out far enough to see the edges of it you’d be so far away the light wouldn’t have arrived yet if it’s a moving object.

It just doesn’t convey the size well at all.

Super Deuce
May 25, 2006
TOILETS
Oh, I like the smell of my own dumps.

apatheticman posted:

Im going to say the meanest poo poo I've ever thought of Discovery and I expect you to trounce me thoroughly for it

Science can fix a rib but not acne?

That actor has particularly bad acne. Unsure if it was an breakout or not but during the live Star Trek day thing it was... noticeable. Which is fine and I’m not trying to call them out.

Just in this episode at parts it looked like they tried to blur their face some in editing. (I’m saying their and they because I don’t remember their gender identity)

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
It's really annoying that Crave says Discovery is on Crave on Thursdays, and its just not there, its literally when i log in, and click on the banner and its sends me to episode 1. Get your poo poo together, I know you're a Canadian service so the bar is really low, but at least have the stuff you say you do.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




apatheticman posted:

Im going to say the meanest poo poo I've ever thought of Discovery and I expect you to trounce me thoroughly for it

Science can fix a rib but not acne?

We could go with the baldness explanation that it is totally fixable, but no one cares anymore. But if that were the case they wouldn't bother to conceal it with cosmetics either.

I think this is another case where the available actors in our time simply can not completely embody the future characters. It should have been easy for Scotty to get a new finger, but since James Doohan couldn't have his finger re-grown or replaced with a prosthetic Scotty is missing a finger too. Dermal regenerators should make removing acne scaring a painless 90 second procedure, but since the actors don't have access to that technology the characters don't either.

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





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Brawnfire posted:

I haven't watched any of this season but, uh, what does this mean for "Calypso"? Is the V'Draysh still a thing? Was Craft supposed to be Book or another dude from a similar world? They both had True Name poo poo going on... I just have a lot of trouble fitting Calypso into the setting.

Yeah I feel like the idea behind Calypso basically got updated into what we have now.

For Calypso to make any sense at this point it has to take place in the year 4200 or so and it involves the already sentient computer evolving into a... sentient computer over that time.

It is weird though, because Calypso only aired about 3 months before the Sphere showed up, so it's not like they didn't already know the computer was going to gain sentience in a completely unrelated way, right??

I'm guessing someone pointed this out at some point and that's why the computer is now called Zora in the 2nd Burnham era, and we'll never revisit that other 1000 year gap or Craft ever again.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
It looked like Adira's partner's mouth was added in later with CGI.

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono
I bet Book is feeling real silly now about bringing all those Trance Worms back to his homeworld!

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

disco e2: drat, what a boring, sad confirmation that this show continues to suck poo poo and the writers and producers are lazy hacks

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



apatheticman posted:

Im going to say the meanest poo poo I've ever thought of Discovery and I expect you to trounce me thoroughly for it

Science can fix a rib but not acne?
Braces are a thing with today's technology yet Adira's mouth looks the way it does. Let's just say it: Discovery has traditionally ugly people in it.

At least they fixed the shiny bit on Burnham's front tooth. That poo poo was way more distracting than acne or gap teeth.

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

DaveKap posted:

Braces are a thing with today's technology yet Adira's mouth looks the way it does. Let's just say it: Discovery has traditionally ugly people in it.

At least they fixed the shiny bit on Burnham's front tooth. That poo poo was way more distracting than acne or gap teeth.

:chloe:

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Bayham Badger posted:

disco e2: drat, what a boring, sad confirmation that this show continues to suck poo poo and the writers and producers are lazy hacks

I was thinking of giving it another go because while I hated season 3 a lot, it was largely due to how much I didn’t give a gently caress about any of the Osyraa stuff, but everything I’ve read so far makes it sound just as bad.

The fact that they still insist on Michael being the captain over Saru still just fundamentally sucks poo poo.

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Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.
I'd say watch it.
Lower your expectation to below the ground.

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