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HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Real hurthling! posted:

dams sure seem dumb as hell idk. like at least dont live under them if you gotta kill a river with one ianae

I know it ended up being somewhat debunked or at least contextualized—but still a hearty lmao for that thing where Houston had a bunch of housing developments on the water side of its levees

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Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

HashtagGirlboss posted:

I know it ended up being somewhat debunked or at least contextualized—but still a hearty lmao for that thing where Houston had a bunch of housing developments on the water side of its levees

with a zoning department small enough you can drown it in a bathtub, caveat emptor motherfucker

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
How was it contextualized?

People were under mistaken beliefs about how likely it was that any flood would ever bring the water level that high, but houses were absolutely built inside the reservoirs.

For lack of budget, the federal government never bought the land all the way to the maximum fill level, and decades later when the suburbs sprawled out to the reservoirs, no one told land owners that it couldn’t be developed.

Lacrosse
Jun 16, 2010

>:V


There is an earthen dam here in SE King County Washington called Howard Hansen that was extensively damaged during the floods in 2009 and was due to imminently fail before the Army Corps of Engineers was able to stabilize the sides of the dam. I was working in the Kent Valley at the time, which was due to be under 10' of water if the dam were to fail. The roads outside of my office, and all along the river were stacked with 3'x3'x3' sandbags. If the dam would have failed that would have been not only tons of houses but also one of the the largest industrial/warehouse areas in the west under water. I spent a lot of time thinking about the best route to boogie up in case the valley flooded while I was at work.

Bob Socko
Feb 20, 2001

Lacrosse posted:

There is an earthen dam here in SE King County Washington called Howard Hansen that was extensively damaged during the floods in 2009 and was due to imminently fail before the Army Corps of Engineers was able to stabilize the sides of the dam. I was working in the Kent Valley at the time, which was due to be under 10' of water if the dam were to fail. The roads outside of my office, and all along the river were stacked with 3'x3'x3' sandbags. If the dam would have failed that would have been not only tons of houses but also one of the the largest industrial/warehouse areas in the west under water. I spent a lot of time thinking about the best route to boogie up in case the valley flooded while I was at work.

Jury rig a raft out of floor models from the IKEA. It’s a twofer, you can snag some meatballs and Swedish fish to keep your energy up.

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!

Lacrosse posted:

There is an earthen dam here in SE King County Washington called Howard Hansen that was extensively damaged during the floods in 2009 and was due to imminently fail before the Army Corps of Engineers was able to stabilize the sides of the dam. I was working in the Kent Valley at the time, which was due to be under 10' of water if the dam were to fail. The roads outside of my office, and all along the river were stacked with 3'x3'x3' sandbags. If the dam would have failed that would have been not only tons of houses but also one of the the largest industrial/warehouse areas in the west under water. I spent a lot of time thinking about the best route to boogie up in case the valley flooded while I was at work.

Just wait til Rainier goes and the lahar hits!

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU

Platystemon posted:

How was it contextualized?

People were under mistaken beliefs about how likely it was that any flood would ever bring the water level that high, but houses were absolutely built inside the reservoirs.

For lack of budget, the federal government never bought the land all the way to the maximum fill level, and decades later when the suburbs sprawled out to the reservoirs, no one told land owners that it couldn’t be developed.

While I don't disagree with you here on any specific point . . . money is fake and the federal government simply didn't want to, for whatever reason. Don't give them an out here.

And, it clearly COULD be developed - it was just a real bad idea to do so. Obviously, it didn't stop the developers from doing so, however.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Careful, you can't say money is fake - it offends the Almighty Number.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Ray Whelans was right

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


https://twitter.com/abcnews/status/1464484911226654724

Just a Moron
Nov 11, 2021

Zarin posted:

While I don't disagree with you here on any specific point . . . money is fake and the federal government simply didn't want to, for whatever reason. Don't give them an out here.

And, it clearly COULD be developed - it was just a real bad idea to do so. Obviously, it didn't stop the developers from doing so, however.

I think you'll find it was actually a great idea for the developers since they made money on the deal and no longer have any sort of liability after selling the homes.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
Looking forward to this winter in the Midwest fluctuating between 60 and -20

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

is the next atmospheric river supposed to hit BC in a few days?

Bob Socko
Feb 20, 2001

actionjackson posted:

is the next atmospheric river supposed to hit BC in a few days?

It’s hitting now, I’m getting emergency evacuation orders on my phone and I’m south of the border (I’m safe, I’m just close enough as the crow flies that I get the alerts).

Wolfy
Jul 13, 2009

There will also be another one...Tuesday? Seems bad.

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin
cool that the Pacific North West now gets monsoon seasons

Booourns
Jan 20, 2004
Please send a report when you see me complain about other posters and threads outside of QCS

~thanks!

To be fair tons of rain isn't exactly uncommon in the PNW

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!

Booourns posted:

To be fair tons of rain isn't exactly uncommon in the PNW

This is usually when the storms happen, too. Climate change is accelerating how much rain come with them on average but this sort of pattern is common in November. The "big blows" are basically like Pacific noreasters.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Northwest_windstorm

Sometimes they're a result of a typhoon remnant getting sucked into the pineapple express jet stream.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1465606556775559173

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


What the heck was that clock tower made of,those winds are bad don't get me wrong but that looked like a pretty flimsy construction

NeonPunk
Dec 21, 2020

Just how normal is it for Hawaii to get blizzard warning?

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnnyParker012/status/1466602994678571013

Luneshot
Mar 10, 2014

Mauna Kea is at nearly 14,000 feet. They get snow fairly regularly and the summit road ices over a lot.

That said, 100+mph gusts are a lot no matter where you are.

Luneshot has issued a correction as of 15:30 on Dec 3, 2021

wolfs
Jul 17, 2001

posted by squid gang

Are earthquake swarms off the Oregon coast weather?

It’s more geology really

the Farallon Plate will get its due one day

but probably not today

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



shirts and skins posted:

This is usually when the storms happen, too. Climate change is accelerating how much rain come with them on average but this sort of pattern is common in November. The "big blows" are basically like Pacific noreasters.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Northwest_windstorm

Sometimes they're a result of a typhoon remnant getting sucked into the pineapple express jet stream.

patterns on the Great Plains are more erratic than before but follow the old rules that apply when you live right on the boundary of polar air-

We have always had inconsistent random days or weeks, a 55° day in January, a snow in May or October, Spring/Fall cold snaps, now and then. Now it's more like a random 75° day in January bookended by 0-10° snows, draught followed by violent thunderstorms that rarely roll and boil gently like when I was a kid. (our tornadoes, at least, seem to be hanging out eastward these days- but nados have always been a rare hazard compared to canes and phoons and quakes)

The frustrating thing is pointing that out to people who also grew up here and they're like "it's always been like this, that's the plains midwest, 'dont like the weather? Wait ten minutes', etc"
It was actually very weird and bad that I wore a t-shirt and shorts on christmas a few years back! It was super strange to have a week last year, when they were dealing with their first deep freeze down in Texas and it didn't go above 0°F up here!!

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


We did it Australia!

Fires in Western Australia
https://twitter.com/9NewsPerth/status/1468673373576310790

while the east coast floods
https://twitter.com/9NewsQueensland/status/1468651707181719552

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

wolfs posted:

Are earthquake swarms off the Oregon coast weather?

As this is obviously the earthquake group before they start to hunt ....horror filmolgy?

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

sorry for the nsfw img

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Floor is lava
May 14, 2007

Fallen Rib
65f right now in the middle of december in southern indiana

and we have a tornado watch right now what in the gently caress

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators
The intensity of the long-tracker tornado right now coupled with the lack of chatter around it is a bit disconcerting. It looks like this might go down as one of the worst tornados in history.

Luneshot
Mar 10, 2014

https://twitter.com/ou_sams/status/1469510267491033091
That's really bad.

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators
https://twitter.com/DelCrossV/status/1469484456243122177
https://twitter.com/JackSillin/status/1469506813766815750
https://twitter.com/TornadoStudy/status/1469494752047513600
https://twitter.com/ChurchillWx/status/1469510169063272450

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
283 mph seems pretty fast

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1469508275746091012?s=20

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
i dont know how to interpret those images

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators

scary ghost dog posted:

i dont know how to interpret those images

You can wait for the sun to rise tomorrow and there will be many images you can interpret.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

PostNouveau posted:

283 mph seems pretty fast

yeah but tornadoes only affect like a dozen households at a time

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/ABC17Zach/status/1469514010836058117?s=20

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001

scary ghost dog posted:

i dont know how to interpret those images

the big erect dong on the radar is an artifact created by debris blown into the air by the tornado

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators

BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:

the big erect dong on the radar is an artifact created by debris blown into the air by the tornado

Also, that big erect dong is usually seen in cases of massive hail. In this case, it's massive debris.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_spike)

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goochtit
Nov 2, 2021



https://twitter.com/nilwxreports/status/1469512116637945861
wow

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