Vomik posted:

yeah that’s true. it is kind of funny that they won’t even throw a useless bone to people. I honestly think dems explicitly have decided a strategy of always being out of power so they can fundraise.

weren’t the dems dead broke right after 2016? I seem to remember that being discussed

quote:

Brazile says Obama left DNC in deep debt; Clinton camp controlled party finances before 2016 primary

Dave Boyer The Washington Times November 2, 2017

Former Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Donna Brazile says President Barack Obama decimated the party’s finances to win re-election in 2012 and that Hillary Clinton’s campaign took control of the DNC long before she defeated Sen. Bernard Sanders for the party’s presidential nomination last year.

In excerpts from her upcoming book, Ms. Brazile said she was shocked at the sorry condition of the DNC’s finances when she took over in July 2016 for embattled Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, whom she said was “not a good manager.”

Ms. Brazile described a phone call she had with Gary Gentler, the chief financial officer of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, on the morning after the Democratic National Convention ended in late July 2016.

“He told me the Democratic Party was broke and $2 million in debt,” Ms. Brazile wrote. ” ‘What?’ I screamed. ‘I am an officer of the party and they’ve been telling us everything is fine and they were raising money with no problems.’ That wasn’t true, he said. Officials from Hillary’s campaign had taken a look at the DNC’s books. Obama left the party $24 million in debt $15 million in bank debt and more than $8 million owed to vendors after the 2012 campaign and had been paying that off very slowly.”

She said Mr. Obama’s campaign was not scheduled to pay it off the debts until 2016.

“If I didn’t know about this, I assumed that none of the other officers knew about it, either,” Ms. Brazile wrote. “That was just Debbie’s way.”
In an excerpt published by Politico, she also said that she eventually discovered a written agreement that proved what Mr. Sanders had been claiming that the DNC was in the tank for Mrs. Clinton long before primary voting ended. She said the deal was struck by Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook and Mrs. Wasserman Schultz.

She said the Clinton campaign was essentially controlling the bulk of the party’s contributions and sending a small share to the DNC to “keep it on life support,” unbeknownst to Mr. Sanders’ campaign. Ms. Brazile said Mr. Gentler told her the Clinton campaign “had to do it or the party would collapse.”

hailthefish posted:

Yeah I love screaming at people who make the claim that the electoral college is somehow good because it "protects the hard working farmers from urban coastal elites" because that's not what it does at all.

Like the farmers vs coastal urban elites w/e argument is dumb as poo poo on its own, but that has NOTHING to do with the electoral college, where your vote only matters in terms of flipping your state, and your state only matters in terms of its population and since there's set minimum and maximum electors, it has the effect of massively amplifying or minimizing the weight of your vote depending on which side of a series of arbitrary lines you happen to live on.

It's dumb as poo poo, the founders were stupid assholes, destroy the electoral college. And also the Democrats.

Trabisnikof posted:

Good stuff

Jabberlock posted:

the democrats are going to be defunct by 2026

ex post facho posted:

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ex post facho posted:

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1...ingawful.com%2F

i say swears online posted:

very possible she gets dumped in the primaries. no natural base, low favorables. michelle would beat her 96% to 4%

spacemang_spliff posted:

lol a pete butt vs copmala primary would be hilarious to see who could be more off-putting

Nitevision posted:

Fame Douglas posted:

Who knows what kind of superman drugs the CIA has to inject Mr. Butts with.

MLSM posted:

Can someone post the video of this i forgot what its called but its great

Nitevision posted:

Smythe posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AeO-dKGBLs

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

no one chose biden until obama got the rest of them to bow out. he was in third or fourth in most states until then.

ex post facho posted:

yes, Obama completely neglected the fundraising apparatus of the party after 8 years, and part of the reason why Hillary was able to rig the primary was because she agreed to take on a lot of the debt of the DNC, iirc

edit: yep

https://apnews.com/article/f7db6e415f69dd8b6c60b2c299fa1bee

Vomik posted:

anyone ever find it weird that the clintons since the 90's began to takeover the democratic party, clear out any potential challengers, structure the rules to be as friendly as possible to a small group of people choosing the candidate over the primary voting process, to clear a path for her to take power while having complete control of 1 of 2 political parties in america? it almost seems like they were planning to install a dictat

Winifred Madgers posted:

unironically Trump's greatest accomplishment was humiliating both the Bush and Clinton dynasties in a single election cycle

etalian posted:

Terry MacAuffile

Vomik posted:

anyone ever find it weird that the clintons since the 90's began to takeover the democratic party, clear out any potential challengers, structure the rules to be as friendly as possible to a small group of people choosing the candidate over the primary voting process, to clear a path for her to take power while having complete control of 1 of 2 political parties in america? it almost seems like they were planning to install a dictat

Vomik posted:

anyone ever find it weird that the clintons since the 90's began to takeover the democratic party, clear out any potential challengers, structure the rules to be as friendly as possible to a small group of people choosing the candidate over the primary voting process, to clear a path for her to take power while having complete control of 1 of 2 political parties in america? it almost seems like they were planning to install a dictat