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MechaX posted:*Gets to the main boss of the Demon Castle, the boss is suddenly doing 400+ HP Crit moves and his helpers are doing 300 damage Agidyne's all of a sudden* On normal I didn't really get the sense that boss was much tougher than anything previously, I knocked him out first try. Meanwhile here I am in area 4 and whoops, the demon on the map is level 55 but he has a level 65 just randomly joining to one-shot you
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 21:22 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 06:58 |
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I did it on Hard, and that boss was doing significantly more damage than the one after that (well, a little bit, but the two buddies were doing more in Agidyne damage than the max health of some demons and I was around 55-56).
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 21:48 |
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tbh I'm not a huge fan of the way levels effect damage.
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 22:23 |
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The only saving grace is Grimoires are by far the easiest Mitama drop to farm so at the very least you can keep a demon that's really useful on par with you coughcoughIdunncoughcough
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 22:24 |
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Idun is real good but becomes a bit less useful endgame when demons start getting packed in with Luster Candy/Debilitate. You pretty much get swamped in Grimoires, though.
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 22:26 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Idun is real good but becomes a bit less useful endgame when demons start getting packed in with Luster Candy/Debilitate. See that's the thing, I'm not at the point where demons have those skills which is exactly why I'm keeping her. (She also has good Mag so she can contribute through Gems. Like seriously they're the second best item in the game after Dampeners)
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 22:34 |
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Luster Candy + Heal is pretty handy even at the endgame tbh
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 22:47 |
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And with heal pleroma and maxed healing proficiency I found that it was still a full heal even at endgame levels, while having the same MP cost as luster candy
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 22:50 |
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hmm i lied earlier and i didn't fuse away idun... ugh
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 22:52 |
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What I think is happening with the Level Formula is it takes into account the difference between the levels for damage calculation; given and received. From what I remember of Nocturne the damage calculation was that every level, was equivalent to having one point in STR or MAG, before adding into the Skill multiplier. So V is far more punishing to having a gulf between your level and the enemies.
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 23:02 |
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How the hell am I supposed to deal with Maria's full heal skill? Is it a scripted thing I just need to power through or is there some mechanic/skill I'm overlooking to counter it?
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 23:16 |
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Is there a reason the essences contain the unique skills that can't be passed down other than if you want to return that skill to that demon?
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 04:40 |
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I have no idea how I'm gonna beat Shiva for the hidden ending.
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 04:49 |
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Neeksy posted:Is there a reason the essences contain the unique skills that can't be passed down other than if you want to return that skill to that demon? That's basically the entire purpose for it. They exist in case you accidentally delete the move and want to get it back without having to build an entirely new demon from scratch
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 04:52 |
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Detective No. 27 posted:I have no idea how I'm gonna beat Shiva for the hidden ending. What level are you and what is your build?
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 04:57 |
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Zophar posted:How the hell am I supposed to deal with Maria's full heal skill? Is it a scripted thing I just need to power through or is there some mechanic/skill I'm overlooking to counter it? I just OTKO'ed her using criticals but I think I may have been a bit overleveled. I assume you went law so you should have some super buff demons to deal with her. Otherwise maybe try for sleep or seal?
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 05:02 |
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Hunt11 posted:What level are you and what is your build? I need to find some more Gospels. I sped right through the game this run, and I remember that there was a few to get through sidequests in the first area on my first run, but I don't recall getting any more later on. Party spoiled just in case.
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 05:05 |
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There's five static kushi mitamas in the game that drop gospels. They take forever to respawn, but presumably most of them are up for you by now There's also two gospels in the Milan rewards I beat him at level 88 on normal and looking at clear videos, that seemed to be a pretty similar difficulty to 92 on hard. I had to do some fight-specific fusion but with heavy item usage it wasn't too bad.
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 05:10 |
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I wonder if I should get hell biker back, his unique is pretty good Unique skills are my main consideration for having demons stick around... I am really disappointed that Black Frost doesn't have the unique Bufula!!!
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 05:21 |
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devs deserve credit for making an rpg in which i'm actually willing to use attack consumables. just beat black rider and like 75% of my damage was from force gems
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 05:48 |
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Wow. Murakumo is... definitely powerful. I am suspecting this is the true Freikugel of the game, right
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 06:12 |
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I beat the superboss on level 87 on normal mode, so that’s at least feasible, but assuming you’re playing on hard I’d probably get another five levels somewhere. The bottleneck to that fight is surviving his big AoE attacks through a combinations of stats/buffs/dispelling his defense debuff so if you can pull that off, you at least have a chance. Other hints for that fight: -Null phys + fierce roar is an absolute killer combo, which I had on Odin for this fight -You can leave some of his adds alive. Absolutely kill the snake (Atanta?) ASAP because it can heal Shiva for 5-digit numbers, and the ones that cause status effects can be a pain, but all Ganesha and Parvati do is cast buffs that are easily undone, or hitting nulls and wasting Shiva’s second turn.
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 06:17 |
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I think but am not certain that he uses impaler's animus if any add stays alive too long. And that's a really good reason to clear the adds, if I'm right about his behavior
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 06:20 |
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Oh yeah he did do that to me but it mostly didn’t kill anyone. Possibly not the best strat if that’s avoidable.
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 06:25 |
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I used my "Whittled Goat" on an Abscess miniboss, is that gonna be a problem for later
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 08:42 |
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I used my "Whittled Goat" on an Abscess miniboss, is that gonna be a problem for later There's three in treasure chests and they eventually become buyable
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 08:48 |
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Just hit that part in 3rd Stratum. It... seemed like kind of an obvious puzzle? You'd learned previously to wait for the right directional fan in a row so it didn't feel like a problem. The part right before it, though... gently caress that forever. You get tossed into the air with the camera twirling at 10 fps and then land somewhere that makes it look like you screwed up. Unless you're watching the minimap and realize it's two identical fan sets you wind up in a Groundhog Day scenario for longer than I care to admit.
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 13:07 |
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you're explicitly told to use the map to keep your bearings!
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 13:12 |
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quote:You'd learned previously to wait for the right directional fan in a row so it didn't feel like a problem. I actually didn't lol, I just ran straight down from the upper area and happened to get blown in the correct direction without realizing there was a second fan that was set up to blow me back, so I had no idea if I had done something right or was in the wrong spot I picked up on the intended gimmick as the second fan blew me over the wall and had me rerun that poo poo all over again, whoops
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 13:13 |
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cheetah7071 posted:I think but am not certain that he uses impaler's animus if any add stays alive too long. And that's a really good reason to clear the adds, if I'm right about his behavior I found that trying to kill them all was a fool's errand because he just resummons them so quickly and ends up having three sooner than he did otherwise. Leaving Ganesha alive and killing the others whenever he did summon them worked for me. He did use impaler's animus once but I must have survived somehow.
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 13:18 |
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cheetah7071 posted:There's three in treasure chests and they eventually become buyable also you can use essences with similar abilities that are "once per fight for free" if you don't mind saccing a passive slot for it, if you can't get any in item form
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 13:22 |
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Detective No. 27 posted:
You want the Ice Arch Angel and Arioch to be in your party with a dedicated supporter to keep everyone going. Also you want to be a higher level and for hunting down Gospels look up the gospel ones with this guide. https://www.rpgsite.net/feature/119...-glory-and-more
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 14:32 |
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lets hang out posted:devs deserve credit for making an rpg in which i'm actually willing to use attack consumables. just beat black rider and like 75% of my damage was from force gems Yeah it's great! On boss fights when my healer doesn't need to do anything for a given turn I just have them throw out a gem to get that extra press turn and do some respectable damage in the process.
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 14:37 |
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Yeah, aside from breaking rods in FFV, this is the most I've used consumable attack items in a game.
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 15:17 |
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Oh boy I do not like the white on white with a dash of blue aesthetic of this new area.
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 15:24 |
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lets hang out posted:devs deserve credit for making an rpg in which i'm actually willing to use attack consumables. just beat black rider and like 75% of my damage was from force gems Or just consumables in general. I always tried to have as many elemental nulifiers as possible in case things started to go wrong.
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 15:38 |
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I keep falling into the trap of assuming the element a boss/mini-boss focuses on before going Super Saiyan is going to be the one they use during that, and both wasting a Dampener and eating a crit to the face.
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 15:42 |
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yeah i was worried the game was going to be trivialized by just popping dampeners but playing "predict the element" gets much less practical for me as the game went on, especially when the downside is usually losing every non-MC party member constantly using essences remained really, really powerful though. even though popping spyglass and quitting out of a boss to get the right essences in felt slightly lame.
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 15:49 |
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SMT games in general are pretty good about encouraging you to use stuff. Outside of something like Somas I will never hesitate to use pretty much anything else the game gives me.
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 16:04 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 06:58 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:constantly using essences remained really, really powerful though. even though popping spyglass and quitting out of a boss to get the right essences in felt slightly lame. I just wait for them to kill me then do essences after loading up again. I call this the "recon" or "wasting my own time" method.
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# ? Nov 29, 2021 16:04 |