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the democrats 2022 strategy https://twitter.com/PresidentCater/status/1462848399535861761?s=20
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Vomik posted:anyone ever find it weird that the clintons since the 90's began to takeover the democratic party, clear out any potential challengers, structure the rules to be as friendly as possible to a small group of people choosing the candidate over the primary voting process, to clear a path for her to take power while having complete control of 1 of 2 political parties in america? it almost seems like they were planning to install a dictat The Clintons are just the return to normalcy after the reforms of the 70s got rolled back. The Democratic Party has always been about powerful insiders controlling the party, and the narrow window where that wasn’t completely true was the abnormal time. You don’t need to install a dictatorship at the Skull and Bones after all, the whole point is it doesn’t matter who is club president as long as they jacked off in the coffin.
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Nov 29, 2021 05:35
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Going to own when omnicron tears through America and Nancy Pelosi just dabs in the capitol to commemorate the dead.
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Nov 29, 2021 05:47
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CaptainACAB posted:Going to own when omnicron tears through America and Nancy Pelosi just dabs in the capitol to commemorate the dead. while wearing kente cloth again
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Nov 29, 2021 06:09
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500 good dogs posted:while wearing kente cloth again and gagging on the vapours of jerry nadlers latest intestinal eruption in solidarity with the thousands of americans also struggling to breathe
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Nov 29, 2021 06:23
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i say swears online posted:primary voters in 2020 overwhelmingly chose the more human candidates (joe and bernie) over the reptilians. pete and kam aren't going to find charisma anytime soon; there's a real opportunity for Literally Anyone Else to come in and steal the thunder
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Nov 29, 2021 06:29
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500 good dogs posted:while wearing kente cloth again While wearing a plague doctor mask
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Robo Reagan posted:if only bill hadnt pulled out his dick we would now be forced to pokemon go to the clinton bitcoin mines dying for clinton's bitcoin profits!
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lol https://twitter.com/TelegraphWorld/status/1465262818266075156?s=20 MLSM has issued a correction as of 13:23 on Nov 29, 2021 |
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Nov 29, 2021 13:21
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one of the more hilarious ways this could play out is the khive going nuts if this happens and then turning against the dems like hillaryis44
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Lmao how due to Dem primary manipulation they don't really have any sort of bench depths. It's all Kamala / Buttigieg type politics who decided to pick 2 for their charisma stat
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Because any actual charismatic politican is seen as a threat they can't have anyone be bigger then The Dems. I'm going to use a wrestling analogy. The DNC is like WWE, they had a charismatic person (Obama) who became bigger then the Brand, they had to make sure that never happened again. Yhey got rid of anyone who was difficult to work with or won't tow the line and whoops they suck now.
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Nov 29, 2021 16:54
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Lib and let die posted:...now?! Fair they suck even worse then before if that was somehow possible.
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LionYeti posted:Because any actual charismatic politican is seen as a threat they can't have anyone be bigger then The Dems. I'm going to use a wrestling analogy. The DNC is like WWE, they had a charismatic person (Obama) who became bigger then the Brand, they had to make sure that never happened again. Yhey got rid of anyone who was difficult to work with or won't tow the line and whoops they suck now. Another thing to consider is the latest and greatest bench depth for upcoming succ Talent. They didn't win competitive races against the GOP candidates or even in the Dem primary process like kamala! Mayor Rat -Lost State level bean counter race to the republic -Lost the dem primary as well, sold out to Sleepy Joe for admin spot he wasn't qualified Kamala -History of winning as a dem in safe blue technocrat state -Ran of money before even starting the Dem Primary lol -Got her current job since big ticket donors like her brand of suck Beto -Due to loss forced us to see a few more years of lying Ted's face and accidental porn star twitter likes Abrams -Lost her race in Georgia to the GOP
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I don't care as long as those two never become President. Republican century it is.
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Nov 29, 2021 17:12
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Stacey Abrams is the perfect new dem. she's a black woman, so libs feel "progressive" for supporting her. and in the unlikely event she gets any power, she endorsed Michael Bloomberg, so she's not at risk of actually doing anything good.
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Nonsense posted:I don't care as long as those two never become President. Republican century it is. The list has such great chosen ones they never had a track record of actually winning competitive political contests.
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Nov 29, 2021 17:53
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Winifred Madgers posted:unironically Trump's greatest accomplishment was humiliating both the Bush and Clinton dynasties in a single election cycle obama was the clinton empire's vietnam (everyone is suddenly aware their power projection isn't what they claim, beginning of the end) trump is its afghanistan (hilarious, embarrassing, middle of the end) Trabisnikof posted:The Clintons are just the return to normalcy after the reforms of the 70s got rolled back. The Democratic Party has always been about powerful insiders controlling the party, and the narrow window where that wasn’t completely true was the abnormal time. interesting - i didn't know that history of the democratic party historically - i thought the closed off (by political standards) was more recent
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LionYeti posted:Because any actual charismatic politican is seen as a threat they can't have anyone be bigger then The Dems. I'm going to use a wrestling analogy. The DNC is like WWE, they had a charismatic person (Obama) who became bigger then the Brand, they had to make sure that never happened again. Yhey got rid of anyone who was difficult to work with or won't tow the line and whoops they suck now. It's important to remember that Obama was obviously not a Clinton pick, and that's part of why he was charismatic and popular. The Clintonites tried to clear the board in 2008 the same way they did in 2016, they just failed because Obama beat them. After he beat them, he reconciled and became one of them, but if they had their way it would have been Clinton vs. McCain in 08. He didn't become bigger than the Clintonite brand, he beat that brand. What the Clintonites learned from that wasn't that people don't like them and they should change or cede power, they learned that they have to do a better job controlling the inner workings of the party so that nobody could do what Obama did again, and as a direct result they've eviscerated their party's own bench to make sure that septuagenarian Clintonites control all the levers of power until they literally die in office. The only young people allowed to rise within the party ranks are the ghouls who agree to play the Clintonite game, and as a result the party is incredibly unpopular and can't figure out why.
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Vomik posted:interesting - i didn't know that history of the democratic party historically - i thought the closed off (by political standards) was more recent up until the 70s Democratic presidential candidates still got picked by insiders in backrooms without even bothering to do a vote. there was outcry at Hubert Humphrey getting the nomination in 1968 because he hadn't bothered to do any campaigning, he just inherited the delegates that had already pledged for LBJ before he dropped out of the race and then contested and won caucus states where party bosses just decided who got the delegates, while Bobby Kennedy who had actually bothered campaigning in primary states and was popular as a result got assassinated so all his delegates were also up for grabs. Afterwards they did a bunch of internal party reforms to make the party more democratic and less authoritarian, most notably by switching from the large majority of states assigning primary delegates through party conventions to the large majority of states assigning primary delegates through open primary elections the party now contests a bunch of primary elections, but the control over who gets nominated has swung back towards the party power brokers which makes the current Democratic Party more like the 60s version
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Nov 29, 2021 18:15
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vyelkin posted:up until the 70s Democratic presidential candidates still got picked by insiders in backrooms without even bothering to do a vote. there was outcry at Hubert Humphrey getting the nomination in 1968 because he hadn't bothered to do any campaigning, he just inherited the delegates that had already pledged for LBJ before he dropped out of the race and then contested and won caucus states where party bosses just decided who got the delegates, while Bobby Kennedy who had actually bothered campaigning in primary states and was popular as a result got assassinated so all his delegates were also up for grabs. Afterwards they did a bunch of internal party reforms to make the party more democratic and less authoritarian, most notably by switching from the large majority of states assigning primary delegates through party conventions to the large majority of states assigning primary delegates through open primary elections with some caveats, the party decides argues that the primary reforms didnt really change anything at all; nominees were still decided by party insiders. the only unambiguous exception to this is trump in 2016
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ELTON JOHN posted:with some caveats, the party decides argues that the primary reforms didnt really change anything at all; nominees were still decided by party insiders. the only unambiguous exception to this is trump in 2016 Our Freedom prez
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ELTON JOHN posted:with some caveats, the party decides argues that the primary reforms didnt really change anything at all; nominees were still decided by party insiders. the only unambiguous exception to this is trump in 2016 I thought Hillary picked Trump though
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Vomik posted:obama was the clinton empire's vietnam (everyone is suddenly aware their power projection isn't what they claim, beginning of the end) in 1968 DNC the DNC denied McCarthy the chance at the nomination and instead gave it to Humphrey who hadn’t even run in a single primary, they kicked out the racially integrated southern delegations in favor of whiter and more conservative delegations, quote:On April 27 Vice President Hubert Humphrey entered into the race but did not compete in any primaries; instead he inherited the delegates previously pledged to Johnson and then collected delegates in caucus states, especially in caucuses controlled by local Democratic bosses. So they made a Commission, the McGovern–Fraser Commission, to make the Democratic Party actually Democratic: quote:What took place in Chicago went well beyond party leaders' ignoring one candidate, Eugene McCarthy, who could claim to have demonstrated his appeal to voters in the primaries and nominating another, Hubert Humphrey, who had not entered a single primary. Dissatisfaction with the perceived undemocratic nature of the nominating process led Democrats to create a commission that would ensure greater democratic input into how nominees were selected.[5][6] The establishment of the commission was approved on the second day of the convention.[1][4] Its initial mandate was to examine current rules and make recommendations designed to broaden participation in the nominating process;[4] later, as the commission evolved, it sought specifically to enable better representation among convention delegates of minorities, women, and young people – groups that had previously been underrepresented. So it wasn’t until the 1972 election that the DNC delegates weren’t picked in smoke filled back rooms anymore. And that’s part of why Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail ‘72 is such a fascinating book (the other part being Thompson not knowing that CREEP was rigging things for Nixon). The elites in ‘72 were reacting to the new rules and McGovern who helped write them was taking advantage of the newly democratic nature of the Democratic Party. So it took a while for the party elites to de-democratize the Democratic Party while maintaining the token efforts that everyone notices. Like the ‘72 rule changes required men not outnumber women on a delegation, but now you just generally nominate the slate the party boss says, often a husband and wife duo (say, Hillary and Bill). When you’re the biggest Democratic politics nerd in your neighborhood, so much so you’re blowing your weekend going to the Democratic State Convention after you got elected in the primary as a delegate (often unopposed), when your congresscitter comes to personally ask you to support their Chief of Staff and their spouse as DNC delegates, you jump at the offer to be helpful! And now the party is both “democratic” and controlled by the elites.
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Nov 29, 2021 18:37
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ELTON JOHN posted:with some caveats, the party decides argues that the primary reforms didnt really change anything at all; nominees were still decided by party insiders. the only unambiguous exception to this is trump in 2016 Trump was a genius in this respect since unlike Bernie he was able to successfully able to steamroll the existing GOP power structures and insiders. Like how poor Jeb! was seen as the top pick due to Bush family connection to big ticket donors but low energy Jeb! ended up as turtle roadkill in the primary.
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ELTON JOHN posted:with some caveats, the party decides argues that the primary reforms didnt really change anything at all; nominees were still decided by party insiders. the only unambiguous exception to this is trump in 2016 I think that’s accurate in the long view, but there was some short term turmoil when the elites had to slightly adjust how they controlled the party.
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Trabisnikof posted:I think that’s accurate in the long view, but there was some short term turmoil when the elites had to slightly adjust how they controlled the party. yeah the caveats are stuff like "though there was sometimes disagreements within the party, even after the voting started, once the insiders coalesced around their candidate they were in." and then of course the difficulty of how to define a party insider and yes fear and loathing campaign trail 72 is essential reading for anyone interested in how hosed up US elections are
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Robo Reagan posted:if only bill hadnt pulled out his dick we would now be forced to pokemon go to the clinton bitcoin mines Dick where? The Oval Office or into a child at Epstein’s sicko land? ELTON JOHN posted:yeah the caveats are stuff like "though there was sometimes disagreements within the party, even after the voting started, once the insiders coalesced around their candidate they were in." and then of course the difficulty of how to define a party insider Demon rat apologist stay out. Also Trump is a hero for destroying two entire political dynasties.
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Nov 29, 2021 19:15
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Crowsbeak posted:Demon rat apologist stay out. what?
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Crowsbeak posted:Dick where? The Oval Office or into a child at Epstein’s sicko land? Right on time to usher in the fascism that America loves too
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where did the superdelegates come from (I mean besides not wanting it to be too democratic) also lol at democrats saying "the person who gets the most votes should win IMO" and then look at how pete won Iowa
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spacemang_spliff posted:where did the superdelegates come from (I mean besides not wanting it to be too democratic) basically dems were losing really bad in every way so in the early 80s the party leaders decided that the best way to fix it would be give a bunch of delegate slots to party insiders (congresspeople and state party chairs iirc) and the number of slots for those party insiders has been growing ever since
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who was the big boss of the clinton branch? i would assume bill since he was the pres and also an insanely competent / ruthless neoliberal world breaker. is this true? or are there other.. illuminati ppl... its interesting to me!! who is the puppetmaster........ ....... 
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Smythe posted:who was the big boss of the clinton branch? i would assume bill since he was the pres and also an insanely competent / ruthless neoliberal world breaker. is this true? or are there other.. illuminati ppl... its interesting to me!! who is the puppetmaster........ ....... Bill, the various people he would meet every so often on this island off Florida...
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ELTON JOHN posted:what? the thing about conservative catholics is they suspect everyone and everything that annoys them is in league with satan, in the hopes of hurting them, personally, and is aware of all other aspects of the vast satanic conspiracy jesuit pope? satan. blm? satan. kids these days not respecting them? satan. kids these days not staying quiet about priests touching them? quadruple satan
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