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lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




evobatman posted:

I have never understood private trackers. What exactly do you get there that you do not get on general open sites? I can see a use case for extremely niche and/or highly curated content, but for general TV shows and movies why bother?

I used to use a pro audio tracker that was amazing. It had all possible VST instruments and tons and tons of even obscure sample libraries.

I haven't had the need for general private trackers either. If it's popular, it can be found anywhere, if it's obscure it won't be in a general private tracker either.

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Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

evobatman posted:

I have never understood private trackers. What exactly do you get there that you do not get on general open sites? I can see a use case for extremely niche and/or highly curated content, but for general TV shows and movies why bother?

in my experience much much much lower risk of riaa / other bad actors in the seeders and otherwise a lower chance of getting ""caught""

tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

Also better curation, seeding and communities.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

It's not gonna be fifteen MIDI files and a huge shir WAV instead of the album in nice MP3s? Then why even torrent it!?!

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

evobatman posted:

I have never understood private trackers. What exactly do you get there that you do not get on general open sites? I can see a use case for extremely niche and/or highly curated content, but for general TV shows and movies why bother?

More content. There are private trackers that have everything down to local TV shows - because people upload everything they can just to get their ratio up.

Sweevo has a new favorite as of 12:54 on Nov 29, 2021

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

Sweevo posted:

More content. There are private trackers that have everything down to local TV shows - because people upload everything they can just to get their ratio up.
This. For music: Rare LP rips (though YouTube is good for that also) and other rare CD releases from the dawn of time.

Movies: The same. Rare releases, full BD rips, etc

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




WITCHCRAFT posted:

Circa 2005-2010, my 2.1 computer speakers would constantly pick up this interference when there was an incoming call on anyone's cellphone in the house. It would also sometimes pick up radio transmissions that would play through the speakers. They were at a fixed volume, the volume knob had no effect.

As far as I can tell, they were of two types. One type sounded like I was picking up a local AM radio station, very fuzzy reception but you could hear someone describing sports being played in english. The other type seemed to be an international shortwave radio frequency. It was in Mandarin or Cantonese, sometimes just a person speaking and sometimes... classical?traditional? Chinese music?

It's so weird but I think I must have placed my left/right/subwoofer speaker wires just right so that they worked as an antenna for AM/shortwave frequencies? When I moved and assembled the same speakers in a closer configuration I never got the radio interference again.

Back then I had a handheld shortwave radio and I vaguely recall that you could like, string a big length of copper wire around the wall/ceiling edge of the room and use it as an antenna? It's been a while since I used one. Got into it from a shortwave radio thread in GBS. It was very cool, got to hear a Cuban numbers station live broadcast a few times. I wonder how shortwave radio is today, compared to 10 years ago. Have some big broadcasters gone offline or switched to internet streaming?

You can come talk shortwave radio with goons right this minute, friend!

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2827275

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Code Jockey posted:

in my experience much much much lower risk of riaa / other bad actors in the seeders and otherwise a lower chance of getting ""caught""

This. My VPN subscription lapsed 8 months ago and I never bothered renewing it. Since I was largely torrenting cult movies from a private tracker (and on the rare occasion I used a public tracker for a blockbuster removed the torrent immediately on completion), I never had a smidge of trouble. Yet the moment I torrented something from rarbg and the ratio went over 1.5, bam, DMCA hit.

I just hope the five major media companies never find out Soulseek exists

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

You can come talk shortwave radio with goons right this minute, friend!

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2827275

ahaha holy poo poo this thread still exists! I remember subscribing to it and its predecessor for a bit, back when I thought "slinky antenna" literally meant using a slinky for an antenna.

Silent Key was a fantastic podcast if you want to experience the melancholy weirdness of radio hams without screwing around with a radio

Rev. Bleech_ has a new favorite as of 13:55 on Nov 29, 2021

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Rev. Bleech_ posted:

I just hope the five major media companies never find out Soulseek exists

Oh boy Soulseek seeders are literally worse than private trackers now. You gotta have something to trade to get certain stuff and WILL get banned from major hoarders if you don't have a share folder. They have bots running and everything.

But yeah I am AMAZED that place hasn't been taken down or changed in format in the last 10+ years.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

mp3s are for chumps
all i need is my trusty roland boombox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk1BIyCgRAA

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


I got hit by a copyright troll on a public tracker several years ago. Also this happened while I was still living at home so I had to explain to my mom that the email our ISP passed along to her wasn’t really a big deal. I’ve stayed away from public trackers since then.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


I got a copyright troll letter once, I think it was for like episode E01S07 of Ash vs Evil Dead. Nothing else, just that single mid-season episode that they were convinced I had downloaded.

So I politely replied to them that I had no recollection of downloading said episode, that I had no intention of assisting them in their investigation and that I considered my involvement in the matter closed. They sent me back a "threatening" form letter that they were aware of nefarious online guides on how to answer their letters and strongly cautioning against following such guides, otherwise they would be very disappointed and so on.

Never heard a peep from them since.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Charter just passed along the threatening email and that was the end of it. I think it’s been 8 years now.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

I got a nasty email from Time Warner for Dunkirk years ago (still haven't watched it). This most recent one from Suddenlink though, there was no email or anything, they just turned my internet off. I had to spend an hour telling some poor dingus in Bangalore "no, my home network and router are fine as everything can see everything else, and the fact that you're showing a signal from my modem should tell you the problem is somewhere else" before he would tell me about it.

I never thought I'd say this, but I miss Time-Warner/Spectrum. I could go to an office and do poo poo to my account, but changing anything with Suddenlink means having to call and get transferred through half a dozen overseas call centers, all of whom hard-lock if you deviate from the flowchart in front of them

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Suddenlinkdown

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

SHIDDENSTINK

snorch
Jul 27, 2009
Canada's great, every so often I'll get an email from my ISP saying "we got a letter from Time Warner asking to unmask your IP but don't worry we don't actually have to do that".

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019
I'm amazed media companies still haven't figured out how Usenet works. Sometimes things well get taken down off indexers, but nothing gets down about the actual files on the provider's severs ever.

WITCHCRAFT
Aug 28, 2007

Berries That Burn

rndmnmbr posted:

Re: streamchat:

My storage drive died horribly last year, and I didn't have a backup. After a few weeks of screaming and wailing and gnashing of teeth, I had a Zen moment. There was literally not one single thing on that drive that was irreplaceable - maybe at some difficulty and excessive time, but it could be replaced.

Photos? Everything I needed to keep was on someone's facebook. Resume was recreated in a day. Music took me three weeks to torrent all over again

puny mortal

it took me 6 months to sort through, delete unwanted stuff, and complete missing albums/songs for my music library when moving to a new backup hard drive. I only got to the letter F.

Then my old backup hard drive died and I frantically skipped through things, keeping stuff I would rather delete and not updating/completing stuff that was poor quality or missing files. Backing up the only copies that I had from my desktop's hard drive. I got to the letter O.

Then my son plugged a USB C cord into the desktop and "plugged" the other end into the surge bar. Fried everything to poo poo.

Now I have to pore over my ancient 2005-2015 era last.fm scrobbles to try and to figure out what I lost but can't instantly remember for artists from O to Z.

There is this compilation album of Mongolian throat singing that I can't remember the name of but it had some really good renditions of folk songs that can be found performed by other artists (but not as good) and I can't remember what the album was called or any of the contributing artists.

I also lost some Sahel Sounds stuff that had cell phone music/ringtones circa 2010 that is not readily available anywhere by hook or by crook as far as I can tell.

If I sit down at my computer in my free time and I don't play a video game these days, it's 100% spent scouring soulseek (yes it still exists) to try and repair my burned library of alexandria. For musical groups that currently exist or recently existed, you can often find them on soundcloud or bandcamp and legally download an album for free. The real weird poo poo that is out of print and/or never released on your side of the planet is bitch to hunt down. I lost a bunch of pre-1975/Khmer Rouge Cambodian music rips that I probably can't find again unless I learn the Khmer script or something.

poo poo sucks. Make redundant backups for everything, because sometimes lightning does strike twice.

Also I feel like this post is prime material to end up in the PHIZ scoff thread. If I end up there, hi guys does the dude that lives on a boat still post he seems like quite the rascal

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012


*pats 4tb backup drive, unplugged in drawer across room* Lesson learned.

But when it came down to it, I could struggle and fight to duplicate my entire music library... or I could spend my time on stuff I actually, y'know, listened to. The digital hoarding instinct is just exactly that, hoarding. I don't need a compilation of native Hawaiian songs I was briefly into for three weeks, twelve years ago, and have never listened to since - other than to say I have it. No thanks, other people can build collections future digital museums can salivate over. Let me live my life unburdened by sheer stuff.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


I can't even imagine spending time sorting terabytes of MP3 rips from years back because I know I would never listen to even a fraction of that stuff. From time to time I look at my shoebox of hard drives full of completely legal copies of software from 2005 to 2009 and all the embarassing anime I was into in high school and I wish it wasn't such a bother to erase it all so I could throw them away. Same with all the MP3 files I meticulously sorted into libraries before I just gave up and got Spotify like a normal person. It's just so much superfluous digital junk we hoard around us and pretend to imbue with meaning.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Why would you not listen to it? Do you have poo poo taste in music? (You might think it more proper to ask did you have poo poo taste in music, but let's face it it's not something that can be cured with age. If what you listened to a long time ago seems poo poo now, what you're listening to now is also poo poo, even though you might not realize it until more time has passed.)

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



3D Megadoodoo posted:

Why would you not listen to it? Do you have poo poo taste in music? (You might think it more proper to ask did you have poo poo taste in music, but let's face it it's not something that can be cured with age. If what you listened to a long time ago seems poo poo now, what you're listening to now is also poo poo, even though you might not realize it until more time has passed.)

GoonSays.txt

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




3D Megadoodoo posted:

Why would you not listen to it? Do you have poo poo taste in music? (You might think it more proper to ask did you have poo poo taste in music, but let's face it it's not something that can be cured with age. If what you listened to a long time ago seems poo poo now, what you're listening to now is also poo poo, even though you might not realize it until more time has passed.)

What if, and hear me out here, some music we listen to ages well and some doesn’t?

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


I'll just slide in here and highly recommend MusicBrainz Picard for all your tagging and sorting needs.

It makes it almost effortless to tag and sort music, gently caress ever doing that manually ever again.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


3D Megadoodoo posted:

Why would you not listen to it? Do you have poo poo taste in music? (You might think it more proper to ask did you have poo poo taste in music, but let's face it it's not something that can be cured with age. If what you listened to a long time ago seems poo poo now, what you're listening to now is also poo poo, even though you might not realize it until more time has passed.)

I meant I have Spotify now and don't need those files anymore since most of that stuff is on some streaming service already, but, hey, you do you

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
My ancient and huge mp3 collection is backed up on like 4 diff drives and one of those is not in my home. Losing it would suck a lot I have a LOT of rare stuff. :(

snorch
Jul 27, 2009
Picked up a VHS/DVD combo from the thrift store and for some reason the biggest nostalgia pang came from seeing this:

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Desert Bus posted:

My ancient and huge mp3 collection is backed up on like 4 diff drives and one of those is not in my home. Losing it would suck a lot I have a LOT of rare stuff. :(

I have my archive drive they live on, an external drive they're backed up to, a Linux fileserver they're backed up to, and 7 BD-Rs they're burned to thus far. Photos (mine and all members of my family that I can back up on a regular basis) live on the archive drive, the external backup, the Linux box, BD-Rs, Google Photos for some of them, and a second external hard drive that lives in a fireproof safe. What I have of my dad's scanned negatives from 1968-2001 has another backup on a 128gb thumb drive in the same safe.

Yeah I'm a titch paranoid.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

KozmoNaut posted:

I'll just slide in here and highly recommend MusicBrainz Picard for all your tagging and sorting needs.

It makes it almost effortless to tag and sort music, gently caress ever doing that manually ever again.
I have been slowly turning my entire Demoscene collection into .MP3s for about 20 years and manually tagging them since unsurprisingly "uncopyrighted music written by random kids in Finland in 1991 and with no standardized recording playback standards" is never going to be auto-taggable.

Here is where I find out I have been doing it so long that there is an automated system for it too

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

I suppose my objection is that I stopped equating "rare" with "good" or "worth keeping" years ago. Maybe it's a rare live album ripped by one single person and only available by trade because, and get this, it's not that good or notable to begin with.

insta
Jan 28, 2009
otoh, I have 40tb free, and i pay the same amount of electricity if the storage is used or not. gimmie.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


insta posted:

otoh, I have 40tb free, and i pay the same amount of electricity if the storage is used or not. gimmie.

Thats the spirit!

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Pulled apart the keyboard on the Plus/4 and cleaned all the contacts in it with some contact cleaner and lube. It is now working perfectly, no need to press down hard on the keys for it to register a keystroke.

The disassembling process was made annoying by old adhesive cushion rubber strips hiding the shift lock key mechanism that requires desoldering and one of the screws.

WITCHCRAFT
Aug 28, 2007

Berries That Burn

rndmnmbr posted:

*pats 4tb backup drive, unplugged in drawer across room* Lesson learned.

But when it came down to it, I could struggle and fight to duplicate my entire music library... or I could spend my time on stuff I actually, y'know, listened to. The digital hoarding instinct is just exactly that, hoarding. I don't need a compilation of native Hawaiian songs I was briefly into for three weeks, twelve years ago, and have never listened to since - other than to say I have it. No thanks, other people can build collections future digital museums can salivate over. Let me live my life unburdened by sheer stuff.

The thing that took me longest was going through my giant pile of poo poo to get rid of stuff I won't listen to anymore, and migrate the keepers to new storage. Sifting through it manually got me back into stuff that I hadn't listened to in a long while and still enjoy. And then since I haven't listened to that artist in years, might as well see if they released new stuff and download that and put it into the "to listen" pile.

I deleted probably half or more of the stuff I got through. Like you said, sometimes it's just some weird poo poo that caught your fancy for a bit but when you listen to it now... no thanks. That one goes in the trash.

barbecue at the folks posted:

I meant I have Spotify now and don't need those files anymore since most of that stuff is on some streaming service already, but, hey, you do you

If it works for you, streaming music is the most convenient way. My other half has a subscription and they can listen to all the music they want, whenever they want, wherever they want, on any device, with no ads. That's livin' in the future! That's good poo poo!

I used spotify for a while and finding out the song/album/artist you want is not on there happens pretty rarely even if you are a music weird. The thing that made me go back to local storage was when an album would be available, I would add it to my library or playlist, then later when I wanted to listen to it again the license lapsed or something and it was no longer available. You can still see it in your playlist, but it's greyed out and you can't listen to it. It rubs me the wrong way badly enough that I will go back to hoarding my poo poo by hand, even if it takes me so much more time. I like my music enough to waste all that time on it.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

WITCHCRAFT posted:

poo poo sucks. Make redundant backups for everything, because sometimes lightning does strike twice.

Around 2000 I lost maybe a hundred megabytes of crappy Napster music and a week's worth of work to a corrupted partition table and I was like never again.

So glad hard drives are so big, and so small. The interim years of CD and DVD backups were unbelievably dumb, and I'm glad I never had more than 2 DVDs worth of personal data until the last 10 years or so. Even now I'd guess that my backup set is much smaller than most of the music junkies on here, everything digital that I care about still fits on a 4TB drive with room to spare.


Dr. Quarex posted:

I have been slowly turning my entire Demoscene collection into .MP3s for about 20 years and manually tagging them since unsurprisingly "uncopyrighted music written by random kids in Finland in 1991 and with no standardized recording playback standards" is never going to be auto-taggable.

Here is where I find out I have been doing it so long that there is an automated system for it too

I find it a little irritating that there isn't a way I can just download the most-loved 30 gigabytes or so from modarchive.org or whatever. That music's been around long enough, surely there's a curated collection for the curious dabbler.

edit: wait a second, they have a torrent thing, and the archive from 2007 back is about 30GB. Welp, here we go

doctorfrog has a new favorite as of 07:12 on Dec 4, 2021

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

doctorfrog posted:

I find it a little irritating that there isn't a way I can just download the most-loved 30 gigabytes or so from modarchive.org or whatever. That music's been around long enough, surely there's a curated collection for the curious dabbler.

edit: wait a second, they have a torrent thing, and the archive from 2007 back is about 30GB. Welp, here we go
!!! drat, is that in a common format or the original files? I almost do not believe there are 30 gigabytes total of Demoscene tracks in their original formats so I assume it has to be the former but still

*thinking back to fitting like 20 of my songs on a floppy disk*

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'

WITCHCRAFT posted:


I used spotify for a while and finding out the song/album/artist you want is not on there happens pretty rarely even if you are a music weird. The thing that made me go back to local storage was when an album would be available, I would add it to my library or playlist, then later when I wanted to listen to it again the license lapsed or something and it was no longer available. You can still see it in your playlist, but it's greyed out and you can't listen to it. It rubs me the wrong way badly enough that I will go back to hoarding my poo poo by hand, even if it takes me so much more time. I like my music enough to waste all that time on it.

You have to switch on the “greying out”. By default, the music just vanishes without trace. Drove me crazy until I figured that out. Now I have all the grey tracks in one playlist which I occasionally check to see if anything has lit up.

Stuff doesn’t go grey nearly as often as it used to, but I know one day Spotify is going to have a massive row with one of the big labels and 40% of my music will go AWOL.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Dr. Quarex posted:

!!! drat, is that in a common format or the original files? I almost do not believe there are 30 gigabytes total of Demoscene tracks in their original formats so I assume it has to be the former but still

*thinking back to fitting like 20 of my songs on a floppy disk*

https://modarchive.org/index.php?faq-torrents-current

original files. And that's just a small cobbled together archive of stuff. The next "addendum" torrents are much, much bigger, but their tracker keeps going down so I can't see how much. 30 GB is enough for me for now though.

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Stack Machine
Mar 6, 2016

I can see through time!
Fun Shoe
I'm tidying up today and I found this dumb thing I built years ago to expose PCB photoresist. Yes it's just a ton of UV LEDs in series that you plug into a socket. It's just as safe as it sounds.



It happens to be really good at revealing whatever's burned into old CRTs. Like whoever owned this previously used MacWrite a LOT.

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