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EngineerJoe posted:No, they used the not-withstanding clause. But alas.
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Albino Squirrel posted:Sure would be nice if they suffered any consequences whatsoever from that. The trouble with the notwithstanding clause is that the whole point is that there are no legal consequences for using it, it's a "get out of constitution free" card. It's one of those things where the consequences are supposed to be "well the voters won't like it". Because we all know that voters make their decisions based on high-minded principles of responsible government rather than "more power for my side".
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Nov 27, 2021 03:14
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"Democracy"
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Albino Squirrel posted:Sure would be nice if they suffered any consequences whatsoever from that. Their consequences come from the voters. hahahahahaha
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Nov 27, 2021 03:34
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One of the many things Svend Robinson was right about. And another example of provincial governments being the worst.
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Councilor Scott Green of Latchford, Ontario has launched an ambitious bid to be known as the worst politician in Canada: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudb...k&ICID=ref_fark Reports are that he launched a social media campaign against his small, remote town's only doctor. The councilor objected to the physician's refusal to treated the unvaccinated. Got people to report her to the CPSO and everything.  Turns out she was treating the unvaccinated the whole time! At considerable risk to herself, as that included people with active COVID-19! All that in the past tense, mind you, as they ran her out of town. Now no one has a doctor.
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Nov 30, 2021 18:26
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Honestly, good for that doctor. She doesn't need any of that poo poo.
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https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/mlas-assistant-claimed-by-covid-19-575831142.htmlquote:The constituency assistant of a Manitoba cabinet minister who has refused to reveal his COVID-19 immunization status has died from the virus, sparking allegations the MLA's influence, in part, led her to reject the vaccine.
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Pamela Springstein posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/AndreaHorwath/status/1465693712470601741 Andrea Horwath seems to have remembered there's an election in Ontario next year. It's not much, but it's a start, and at least they're starting now instead of acting like they're caught off guard by an election that's been roughly scheduled for four years.
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Another Bill posted:Honestly, good for that doctor. She doesn't need any of that poo poo. yeah she's going to take care of her like 96 year old dad, write a book, and maybe pick up some extra shifts. much better for her, big loss for the community. whoopsie!
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infernal machines posted:Andrea Horwath seems to have remembered there's an election in Ontario next year. It's not much, but it's a start, and at least they're starting now instead of acting like they're caught off guard by an election that's been roughly scheduled for four years. I really wish she'd step down as leader. Not that I really take any major issue with her or her policies, but she's lost so many times I just don't think she's the person to bring the NDP into government in Ontario. Especially after the last election. Losing that much has its own type of baggage that a lot of people just won't go for.
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keep it down up there! posted:I really wish she'd step down as leader. Not that I really take any major issue with her or her policies, but she's lost so many times I just don't think she's the person to bring the NDP into government in Ontario. Especially after the last election. Losing that much has its own type of baggage that a lot of people just won't go for. You say this, but the ONDP faithful will point out that she's led them consecutively to their best showings since the Rae government. She hasn't "lost" per se, she just hasn't won anything either. It's just not enough to actually form a government in this province. Maybe someone else could do better, but I'd be hard pressed to name anyone off the top of my head.
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Fair point. I honestly can't think of anyone either. But with politics today you really need an exciting leader if you want to make advances. I don't think Horwath is that.
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infernal machines posted:Andrea Horwath seems to have remembered there's an election in Ontario next year. It's not much, but it's a start, and at least they're starting now instead of acting like they're caught off guard by an election that's been roughly scheduled for four years. Yeah, they released some housing stuff as well, which is predictably the lame sort of "let's build some more stuff and blame foreign investment" type measures that every party has to do because it's political suicide to say that real estate going up forever and ever by tens of percentage points is unsustainable.
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Horwath is awful and incrementally larger seat counts really mean jack poo poo for your voters when the other guys keep getting majorities.
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DariusLikewise posted:https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/mlas-assistant-claimed-by-covid-19-575831142.html Blood on his hands. He killed her. loving bastard.
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DynamicSloth posted:Horwath is awful and incrementally larger seat counts really mean jack poo poo for your voters when the other guys keep getting majorities. I don't really have super high hopes that there's anyone currently in the Ontario NDP that would do much better. I'm not exactly over the moon with Horwath, but I think the NDPs main problems in winning a majority go beyond her specifically. Singh could have been a good ONDP leader if he stuck around provincially. Outside of that, there's just not a big bench for the bush league of the team that always loses. I genuinely think the ONDP could get a solid showing with an actually decent, progressive housing plan, but they would have to win on the backs of solely progressive urban areas, nothing is going to turn the suburbs against you like suggesting that their goose egg should maybe go down (or even not go up) in value. Or hell, healthcare. Even chuddy people are talking about how lovely our healthcare system is since it threatens to keep them from their indoor appetizers at Boston Pizza. enki42 fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Nov 30, 2021 |
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enki42 posted:I don't really have super high hopes that there's anyone currently in the Ontario NDP that would do much better. I'm not exactly over the moon with Horwath, but I think the NDPs main problems in winning a majority go beyond her specifically. There is literally a Singh ready to go, Jagmeet's way cooler brother, wtf is wrong with you people quote:Singh ignited controversy days before the 2018 election when a photo of him holding a poster reading "gently caress the Police" in a 2006 Facebook post surfaced. NDP leader Andrea Horwath defended Singh and allowed Singh to remain a member of the NDP, saying "That's a sign that's despicable".
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DynamicSloth posted:Horwath is awful and incrementally larger seat counts really mean jack poo poo for your voters when the other guys keep getting majorities. infernal machines posted:You say this, but the ONDP faithful will point out that she's led them consecutively to their best showings since the Rae government.
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Another 20 maybe 30 years and we're in majority territory, baby! The real question is, can you form a government with just Toronto, Hamilton, and those three ridings up north that cover like 60% of the landmass of the province? infernal machines fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Nov 30, 2021 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:After the last election, there were people posting here, unironically, that a few more elections with incremental gains and the ONDP will form the government. Yeah I'll admit it - it was me. I thought there was momentum. There isn't. She's a loving landlord and has continually misstepped and moved the NDP further away from a worker's party into some weird pseudo liberal party. At this point you might as well merge the two parties together to just loving defeat Doug.
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The OLP was and will again be capable of defeating the PCPO, especially after Doug Ford spent the last two years pissing off every single voting bloc in the province. Ideally, we want a party that is in some way better than the OLP, because the OLP already exists. I don't really believe the ONDP is that party, but they're the other option right now. You can see where my standards are though, since I was impressed by the fact that they're trying to communicate something about policy in advance of the election. That is literally an improvement for them. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Nov 30, 2021 |
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OLP and ONDP have their attack ads written and ready to go "Remember when The Coward Douglas Ford let your grandma die covered in poo poo drowning in her lungs? We do."
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Slotducks posted:Yeah I'll admit it - it was me. I thought there was momentum. There isn't. She's a loving landlord and has continually misstepped and moved the NDP further away from a worker's party into some weird pseudo liberal party. The NDP both provincially and federally are now parties for centrists that don't have capital to protect. There literally is no party left for leftists to throw their vote at. It's probably why turnout is so low at the polls.
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EvilJoven posted:The NDP both provincially and federally are now parties for centrists that don't have capital to protect. I don't think there's really enough voters for a true left wing party if there was one. For most people in suburban ridings around 905, 416, the OLP does exactly what they want with just enough of a veneer of socially progressive platitudes that everyone except postmedia and the sun is keen to let them do what they want until whatever scandals hit them later.
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"Job Creators" Horwath ain't every getting my vote again. loving boot this loser already.
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MA-Horus posted:OLP and ONDP have their attack ads written and ready to go You wish, that's way too accurate and thus rude for them to say, gotta keep 
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This is pretty loving pathetic https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/30/canada-minister-bicycle-video-steven-guilbeault Guy had a bicycle hanging on a bike rack in his room in the background during a video call, and quote:A conservative Canadian MP has accused the country’s environment minister of breaching parliamentary protocol after his bicycle appeared on screen during a hybrid session of parliament.
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The cons are such piss babies. Even right leaning centrists I interact with are cringing at that whole thing. "It's just a bike"
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That really is pathetic. Ed Fast is a dumb clown. Sweet bike though
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Part of me feels like it's a cover for when Cons are actually caught with background props.
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That bike is offensive to me, unlike other things seen in MP(P)s offices such as alcohol, more alcohol, mugs filling with piss,
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Conservatives really do live in a completely parallel universe, I can't stress this enough. I've had a few discussions with people outside Alberta, where it's like... "yeah, you really don't understand just how far gone some of these people are." Are they legitimately offended by a bike hanging in the background because they think it's virtue-signaling? Yes, they very much are. It's because they're loving lunatics that project like a loving lighthouse. Their backgrounds are carefully curated to appeal to their dumbfuck base, so they simply assume that a bike is not just a bike. The concept of being genuine is completely foreign to them, and also they hold no truck with foreign things!
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Hang on, let me jam some liquor bottles underneath my desk. Ok, now I'm ready for the video call.
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Conservatives think that since they had to hide their seven copies of Mein Kampf that he should have to hide his bicycle as well.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:There is literally a Singh ready to go, Jagmeet's way cooler brother, wtf is wrong with you people Nah, he doesn't have it. He apologized for the sign and said he was deeply ashamed of it. A real baller would have been asked about it and responded "Did I stutter? gently caress the police." Anyway, things have changed a bit since 2018 but did you really still have to be scared of criticizing the police just 3 years ago? The police should be terrified of politicians, not the other way around. I don't think you have to worry much about offending NDP-voting cops seeing as they don't exist.
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Regarding the Queen of Canada telling her followers to kill healthcare workers, rest assured, the RCMP may have stopped in for a brief chat, which no doubt put the matter to rest.
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infernal machines posted:Regarding the Queen of Canada telling her followers to kill healthcare workers, rest assured, the RCMP may have stopped in for a brief chat, which no doubt put the matter to rest. quote:But Didulo’s latest claims have received mixed reactions from her followers. Many questioned how a person they believe is the literal Queen of Canada, who can order military and rescue operations on a whim, could be picked up by RCMP officers and brought for a psychiatric evaluation. Honestly though when you have the Galactic Alliance in your pocket do you really even need JTF2 or CSOR?
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