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Lib and let die posted:I hate that I know the thing you're talking about Oh, you know it's a treasure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pShVxLXdXO4
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:for liberal propaganda, Succession is a p good show just started season 2 and I'm having a blast I want to be cousin greg
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https://youtu.be/hbh3XBwo9k4crepeface posted:saw this great article on why stories always seem to have garbage endings I disagree with GoT cause we got hints that blondie would turn from like season three (not to mention all the explicit “targarians go mad it’s in their genes”). once she sold out the slaves (or gladiators? I forget) in Mereen it was over. it wasn’t from trying too hard to do good, it’s cause she didn’t want to piss off the nobility who’d fund her further conquests
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Judakel posted:uncalled for, but this is what happens when behavior is not punished Yes, you're still posting and that bad behavior should have been punished a long time ago
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Feldegast42 posted:Also like most other pop culture, music took a big hit due to 9/11 and never fully recovered
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McCloud posted:Yes, you're still posting and that bad behavior should have been punished a long time ago snyder's movies won't be more widely beloved simply because i don't post, snyder freak
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kanye showed up in 2004, which was a nadir for other genres
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:anybody seen any good movies lately? The Eternals. Kingo is worth the price of admission alone.
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Eric Cantonese posted:The Eternals. Kingo is worth the price of admission alone. are you telling a fib right now
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indigi posted:are you telling a fib right now  I saw the Humans last week and it was okay. And I rewatched A Most Violent Year. I still like it.
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dunno how many actual good movies i've seen this year. it's possible i had the best time during malignant lol
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the before and after pictures of his head are pretty hilarious. hgh is a hell of a drug
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indigi posted:https://youtu.be/hbh3XBwo9k4 i mean if you really want to nitpick like that then it doesnt work for hunger games or watchmen either because the turns in question are foreshadowed theyre just sort of pointless the reason why this actually everyone is bad kind of twist is so common is because any work that makes an actual clear political statement is immediately labeled as propaganda this is why prestige pop culture inherently trends liberal because their whole gimmick is saying other ideologies are bad without clearly explaining what their own ideology actually is
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the article somehow views dany as having liberating politics in GoT when she was always a monster intent on claiming her birthright, crazy or not
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indigi posted:https://youtu.be/hbh3XBwo9k4 it was foreshadowed because it also was in the books. the ending is probably similar to what GRRM planned in broad plot strokes, but the abrupt turn to "authoritarianism bad. we need a council of elites to rule. of course we're keeping all the lovely exploitation of feudalism, maybe we'll get a liberal democracy one day, hah hah" is probably not how it was meant to play out. boiling down GoT's bad ending to just dany's madness misses a lot imo
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i say swears online posted:the article somehow views dany as having liberating politics in GoT when she was always a monster intent on claiming her birthright, crazy or not they made her a girlboss who freed slaves, tried to ban blood sports, helped the poor, etc. she was definitely meant to be viewed sympathetically.
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crepeface posted:boiling down GoT's bad ending to just dany's madness misses a lot imo in the context of “trying too hard to do good is bad” Danny’s plot is the only relevant one
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crepeface posted:they made her a girlboss who freed slaves, tried to ban blood sports, helped the poor, etc. she was definitely meant to be viewed sympathetically. iunno maybe it's that I never liked her in the books either goddamn them laughing at samwell for discussing democracy was an embarrassing scene
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crepeface posted:they made her a girlboss who freed slaves, tried to ban blood sports, helped the poor, etc. she was definitely meant to be viewed sympathetically. she purchased an army of slaves she then used to conquer places with. I’m sure they meant to portray her sympathetically but she was just a broken clock, occasionally on the right side of a situation through no fault of her own
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do the other two even try to do good at all coins only stated motives are to get breeders for her sterile colony built around a nuke warehouse and to avoid getting genocided by the capital these arent evil motives but she doesnt exactly present herself as the vanguard of the revolution
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indigi posted:in the context of “trying too hard to do good is bad” Danny’s plot is the only relevant one the show's "correct" response to her "extremism" is v. important
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people projecting good ideological motives on characters and stories that dont actually support those interpretations is definitely a thing but these are all unsubtly cynical narratives i mean sheesh one of the better known got memes is literally if you thought this story was going to have a happy ending you werent paying attention
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she's a fuckin monarch!!
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i say swears online posted:she's a fuckin monarch!! it's a legitimate form of government op
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i say swears online posted:iunno maybe it's that I never liked her in the books either if they were gonna commit to realism so much they should've made edwin tully king. he's too much of a fuckup to interfere in the affairs of the nascent warlord states being carved out by the remaining lords paramount
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this is a decent summary of dany's characterization and it's turn in the show: (timestamped) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGr0NRx3TKU&t=2771s
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barristan selmy deserved to die for picking the wrong horse
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i think shows having really bad endings is more of a result bizzare processes that studios impose on them in their production, where they want epic plotlines with raising stakes and also the traditional tv ability to bullshit around what the audience likes/performances from actors etc. like when westworld was rewritten because someone on reddit guessed the ending
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i cant entertain the suggestion that lindelof is writing his shows poorly for the cia. hes a retard
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indigi posted:she purchased an army of slaves
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Farm Frenzy posted:i cant entertain the suggestion that lindelof is writing his shows poorly for the cia. hes a retard i think it's more that the system of media production means you only get the chance to make a big budget show if you have the liberal brain disease rather than an explicit cia bag stuffed with cash
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Alhazred posted:She didn't though? She killed the slave owner, burned the slave town to the ground and told the army of slaves that they were free to go. she purchased them and took possession of their ingrained psychological bridle before she did the rest of that stuff offering them the “choice” of freedom was meaningless
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crepeface posted:i think it's more that the system of media production means you only get the chance to make a big budget show if you have the liberal brain disease rather than an explicit cia bag stuffed with cash sure wahtever but no amount of correct ideology would've made the endings of GOT or hbo watchmen good. lindelof struggles to express any themes at all let alone lib ones
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the main problem with the end of GoT is that they didn’t kill off enough characters prior to the final season and were too beholden to giving everyone a moment or send off. a bunch of those characters’ plotlines had reached a natural ending point (or they had just become boring) but they had to keep treading water to keep Jamie or Theon or Sansa around another season or two
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All those words about Led Zeppelin's cultural appropriation and not a single post about The Rolling Stones, who were basically the Boomer version of Amos n' Andy
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History will not be kind to the Stones
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oh right i wanted to get this in while zep chat was still relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAh6lCEJznE&t=3778s
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