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I had a whisky barrel aged gin for the first time last night, it was actually really delicious. Is this a thing that I just didn’t know was around? Or is it a novel concept? Tasted like a cocktail all on its own, started like a whiskey, palate was like a really herbal and light rye / gin, then finished like a tame whiskey. Definitely in the sweeter side. J. Carver barrel gin for those wondering, worth trying if you’re looking for something interesting.
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DoctaFun posted:I had a whisky barrel aged gin for the first time last night, it was actually really delicious. Is this a thing that I just didn’t know was around? Or is it a novel concept? It is a thing that's been around, but the TTB labeling for it has been a barrier to entry you can't actually call it "barrel-aged" (edit: this might have changed or will be changed soon?) "barrel-rested", "finished" "barrelled" is usually what you'll see on these Barr Hill Reserve Tom Cat Gin is another one that's excellent
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Nov 1, 2021 16:46
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spankmeister posted:What do you guys use your bad or mediocre whisk(e)y for? You know, the ones you were gifted, or you got as part of a deal but aren't happy with, or just didn't live up to expectations and are now just sitting on your shelf collecting dust. Well, mixed drinks are fun. Once you learn the basics you can just grab ingredients on hand and try brand new drinks right off the cuff. Most of my undesirable whiskey goes into these, although it's tempting to use nicer stuff to get better results. Alternatively, I also have a shamefully large number of bottles that just sit there on the shelf.
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Nov 6, 2021 01:21
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I have discovered that putting a small drop of absinthe into peaty scotch is actually delicious. I don't have many "bad" peaty scotches but at least it's helping me get rid of this bottle of absinthe I've had for over a decade.
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Nov 6, 2021 01:53
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spankmeister posted:I have discovered that putting a small drop of absinthe into peaty scotch is actually delicious. I don't have many "bad" peaty scotches but at least it's helping me get rid of this bottle of absinthe I've had for over a decade. A 10 year open bottle? I'm surprised it's still good.
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Nov 6, 2021 07:31
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It really depends on the spirit, but I've found that high proof and strongly flavored spirits fare better. Absinthe is very very much both those things.
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Nov 6, 2021 09:26
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Re: whisky/ Scotch cocktails, I was elated to see a new bottle of Glenmorangie that I didn't recognize on the shelf... X. When I looked it up online I very quickly became sad. A Scotch meant for mixing?
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Nov 6, 2021 11:16
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Professor Shark posted:Re: whisky/ Scotch cocktails, I was elated to see a new bottle of Glenmorangie that I didn't recognize on the shelf... X. The only Scotches I’ve seen for mixing were blends, and the only blend so bad I had to mix was JW Red. Is the X a blend from Glenmorangie? I would be shocked that an established (and good!) distiller would actually advertise a single malt for mixing. That’s a Jack Daniel’s scrub-tier move; anything like that beyond the 11:30 pm drunk marketing brainstorm is troubling…
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Nov 6, 2021 17:53
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DerekSmartymans posted:The only Scotches I’ve seen for mixing were blends, and the only blend so bad I had to mix was JW Red. Is the X a blend from Glenmorangie? I would be shocked that an established (and good!) distiller would actually advertise a single malt for mixing. It is a single malt, but it's more akin to monkey shoulder than jw red
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Nov 6, 2021 19:31
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Deceptive Thinker posted:It is a single malt, but it's more akin to monkey shoulder than jw red Ok, I wasn’t trying to put it down because I’ve never tried it. I was just surprised to see known distillery with actual historical presence offer a single-malt product specifically for mixing and cocktails. To my palette, JW Red is horrible straight, but you don’t pay a single-malt price and it works inoffensively in many cocktails (great in a Rusty Nail, btw). I expect this from a manufacturer that would earnestly try to sell me Jim Beam Honey or regular Jack Daniel’s, but not a Glenmorangie product. What price was it going for (no trust in online prices because they vary so much and I don’t want to do math right now 🤓) and where did you find it? Just piqued my curiosity for the novelty of it.
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Nov 6, 2021 20:02
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I've seen it for like $35-40 which isn't much less than glenmo 10 tbh but that kinda shows the target audience
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Nov 6, 2021 20:43
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Deceptive Thinker posted:I've seen it for like $35-40 which isn't much less than glenmo 10 tbh but that kinda shows the target audience Makes sense. Kinda weird take on the Scotch-buying customer, though…almost like prison wine: “You’ll drink it when you get desperate enough, pour some Kool-Aid in there or whatever.”
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Nov 7, 2021 01:40
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Glenmorangie X = $53 CAD while Glenmorangie 10 = $65 (up until a few weeks ago it wad $63... everything seems to have gone up in price by $1-$2 in the last few weeks). I'd rather get the 10yo and mix if I wanted to, I think, since I know I can drink it straight.
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Nov 7, 2021 12:30
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Professor Shark posted:Glenmorangie X = $53 CAD while Glenmorangie 10 = $65 (up until a few weeks ago it wad $63... everything seems to have gone up in price by $1-$2 in the last few weeks). You put it better than me…I’m not rich or a whiskey snob, but I have been drinking bourbon since I was 14 and got into Scotches >JW Black because I received a good Glenfiddich bottle when I got married three months before my 21st birthday. So I have 30+ years of whiskeys in my head and enough experience being surprised based on cost alone that I keep an open mind (same with cigars and pipe tobacco). I had just, living through the whisk(e)y boom, never seen a single malt advertise as being “good for mixing.” I don’t care if you pour Dr. Pepper in your Laphroig QC, if it was what you like to drink. But I might try asking if you’d ever tried it with ice & soda water, or a single ice cube, or even straight with a drop of water. This mainly happens with younger (legal-aged) whiskey n00bs, and I’m flat out refusing a spiced Rum while I’ll drink “normal” rum with Coke and love it. I would be really surprised to get a new bottle of WT101 and not just drink two fingers. Seems to my brain producing a single-malt that could not stand on its own merits from the bottle means “back to the master, maybe a blender” and I see putting it out at single-malt’s premium and price is deceptive and low-class unless it was a brand new underaged bottle produced in a novel way OR the place hasn’t been in business long enough to have a correctly-aged whiskey cycle. I’d probably ask that new factory for some white lightnin’ instead, though!
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Nov 7, 2021 23:05
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DerekSmartymans posted:You put it better than me…I’m not rich or a whiskey snob, but I have been drinking bourbon since I was 14 and got into Scotches >JW Black because I received a good Glenfiddich bottle when I got married three months before my 21st birthday. So I have 30+ years of whiskeys in my head and enough experience being surprised based on cost alone that I keep an open mind (same with cigars and pipe tobacco). Glenmo are one of those distilleries who have quite a snobbish attitude towards whisky as well. Being owned by LVMH doesn't do them any favours, they are a posh brand name and nothing else to the purse string holders. Perhaps it's their even more overpriced 'response' to Diageo's already overpriced Haig Clubman (whisky doing it's level best to masquerade as vodka). Pre-Covid I was at a bar in Scotland often frequented by whisky industry types. There was a young-ish (mid to late 20's?) guy there who worked for Diageo who wouldn't stop banging on about mixing Dufftown with Appletize. I think these 'mixing' whiskies are just an attempt to get younger drinkers into whisky drinking.
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Nov 8, 2021 11:08
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And to move product that doesn't fit the primary product's profile. I mean, you don't want to shove your own brand down market, but it's not unheard of to move down a little "Oh, this Glenmorangie is good for mixing, because it's still better than those OTHER ones". If it was older misaligned product, they'd probably sell it to an independent bottler. I'd guess this is younger and it's a way to making space, getting money for something that's not quite right, and expanding the position of the product.
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Nov 8, 2021 13:37
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Everything I've heard about it from people in my whiskey groups and store managers is that it's perfectly drinkable neat and much better than your bog standard jw red/dewars/grants/etc, just nothing special - low proof and fairly generic tasting on the sweeter/desserty side, and the argument from the glenmo reps is that the profile was engineered so that it "excels" in cocktails
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Nov 8, 2021 14:46
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biglads posted:I think these 'mixing' whiskies are just an attempt to get younger drinkers into whisky drinking. My exposure at a (too) young age gave me a certain “insider’s view” to my college friends’ first foray into liquor of all kinds. Nobody ever drank bourbon with me unless they drowned it in Coke or DrPepper. I didn’t give them poo poo over it because I started out exactly the same, just at a younger age. Enough times you want a buzz at 17 and are out in the barn with a bottle of Wild Turkey and nothing to mix it with or even glasses/cups to drink out of, you just sorta start to enjoy the particular tastes and burn of it straight outta the bottle. Exactly like younger coffee drinkers who one morning need the thermos shared around without any of Mom’s sugar and cream; you drink enough of something that presents as yuck but don’t want to be a pussy, you learn liquor straight, coffee black, and beer to cool down on a hot day! It’s not “good” or “awesome” to be proficient in tasting new Scotches (and able to distinguish subtle tastes/flavors by distillery) when you’re 20, but my group of friends simply had access to a 60-year alcoholic’s stash because he was often passed out at 8:00pm and bought by the case! By the time I got to college all my friends were in the “mixing to man-up” because they’d never had liquor before, and I had been drinking two finger glasses (or my Papa John’s 501st flask) while studying or at a football game ect for a few years! In all honesty I had the same “growing up” experience with beer: I drank it for social reasons, but it took a long time to actually enjoy a beer after cutting grass or watching Baseball in the stands. I honestly don’t remember when I swapped out beer from soda as a “cold drink,” but it took a long time into adulthood because I’d never had access to it at an earlier age!!! Edit: My son’s (first) serious-enough-to-cohabitate girlfriend is the bomb to hang out with…they’ve been together for three years, and were together through his first journey sitting at bars/casinos at 21. She will match me shot/glass (but I outweigh her by like 120lbs; I’m chubby, but she is on the undersize of 100lbs and is 5’ tall!) with anything to try, but thinks it’s adorable that my son’s gotos are Peppermint Schnapps and Strawberry Daiquiris/Lemon Drops when they go out with friends. My boy likes umbrella drinks, wanna fight about it? 
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Nov 8, 2021 19:40
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Professor Shark posted:Re: whisky/ Scotch cocktails, I was elated to see a new bottle of Glenmorangie that I didn't recognize on the shelf... X. A lot of Scotch producers are pushing younger NAS versions of their products onto the market these days. Whether the excuse is to bring new options to the public or to offer a cheaper option specifically for mixing, these are all basically plays to sell younger whiskey by whatever means they can.
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Nov 8, 2021 21:26
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I've noticed that the more common direction is for distilleries try to offer a "special" "distiller's edition" or similar that's essentially a lite version of their flagship for $10 less with no age statement. Another direction is to offer the young stuff up as a special barrel finished take on their flagship (also NAS, of course).
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Nov 8, 2021 21:35
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Glenmo X seems to be trying to jump on the same level as like Naked Grouse. They both have floral fruity notes but the Naked Grouse is just flat out better IMHO I'm not in anyway offended by Glenmorangie expanding their already large lineup but if I want a mixer...it's Naked Grouse.
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Nov 8, 2021 22:54
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Tiny Chalupa posted:Glenmo X seems to be trying to jump on the same level as like Naked Grouse. They both have floral fruity notes but the Naked Grouse is just flat out better IMHO Oh, absolutely! I was trying really hard not to come off putting it or its drinkers in some sort of plebiscite box. I had just never seen that tack on a single-malt before, and was doubly surprised at it coming from a “mature” company. I drink WT straight, but there have obviously been parties or occasions where I dumped a shot or two in my Faygo cola for no real reason. I might not think the same if I saw someone pour a twenty-year old Isley in his Pepsi tumbler, but I wouldn’t comment on it either unless it was one of my nephews or close family. And even then, I know their tastes enough to never offer them good Scotch or Cuban cigars because they don’t really care and the gesture would be lost on them in the first place! I wouldn’t give them poo poo tier goods but I would not deny them if they asked for one like mine, either. Hell, drink what you like and enjoy it! But if someone offered me a thirty year JW Black and told me to try it with Gatorade I would (silently) think they were crazy!
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Nov 9, 2021 02:11
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Anybody been drinking the Lost Distilleries products? Neat blended scotch brand led by two of the foremost Scotch historians attempting to answer the question "what would _________ distillery taste like these days if they hadn't closed decades ago?" I've been loving their Benachie and Lossit bottlings.
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Nov 9, 2021 16:17
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sean10mm posted:Wild Turkey is one of those things where either the particular "funk" in their whiskeys agrees with you, in which case you just just keep buying different Wild Turkey products forever, or it just tastes like charred moldy raisins or something and will never agree with you. Interesting, first I've ever heard anyone say it tastes different. 101 was my gateway bourbon, the first one I liked and still one of my favorites. It hurts me a little to say this, but I like OGD100 a little more than 101. And I think OGD100 is a little more consistent. But Russells Reserve is in my top 5, makes a delicious Old Fashioned.
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Nov 11, 2021 06:56
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Welp, haven’t been out hunting for bourbon for the last 6 months or so, but woke up this morning to a text message that said: “One bottle of blantons at <large big box store chain> in xxxxxxx” I didn’t recognize the number, texted them back and no reply. I assume it was just someone I traded whisky with in the past or something. So I hop in the car and drive over there and sure enough, one bottle of blantons on the shelf. At the everyday low price of $44.99. I get home and text the person back, thank them for the tip, and ask them who they are. It was the woman at the store that sold me the bottle. Then I remember, like a year and a half ago I was in that store and saw a blantons label on their shelf so I asked if they actually ever get any. Gave them my phone number in case they ever got any in, and just expected to never hear from them. Like literally a year and a half ago…seems so unlikely. I feel like I went back in time though, blantons for $45!?!? I meant that’s like legitimately what it should cost, but what a strange day. Checked the bottle dump date and it’s the same day as me and my wife’s anniversary!
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Nov 11, 2021 18:22
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Man I wish I could find myself in a Whisky Mystery
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Nov 11, 2021 19:22
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Professor Shark posted:Man I wish I could find myself in a Whisky Mystery I’d have gotten away with it, too! If it weren’t for those meddling alcoholic Goons!
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Nov 12, 2021 02:10
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A friend let me try Highland Park Freya and Kavalan Sherry Cask. Both were really good and the Freya’s display boat is ridiculous. I wouldn’t necessary say the Freya is BETTER than the regular 12 but it is more complex. The Kavalan was just a good Sherry cask. Also tried Weller Antique 107 and it’s really solid. Just the right amount of sweetness. e: George T. Stagg is so good. The front isn’t good as William Larue Weller but the finish and heat are great. It’s better than the 107 but not like crazy better, especially considering $17 for a 2 oz pour vs $60. 
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Nov 15, 2021 02:54
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What's Laphroaig 10 going for around your way these days? It's $100 here in California. Was only $60 just a few days ago. And there's a lot of the usual Scotches missing from the shelves. It's almost as if some sort of worldwide problem is interfering with the market of everything.
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Dec 1, 2021 03:28
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Dang! Laphroaig 10 YO Sherry Finish is $70 around me. Regular 10 YO is around $60.
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Animal-Mother posted:What's Laphroaig 10 going for around your way these days? It's $100 here in California. Was only $60 just a few days ago. And there's a lot of the usual Scotches missing from the shelves. It's almost as if some sort of worldwide problem is interfering with the market of everything. $50
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Dec 1, 2021 05:52
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40 bucks at total wine here in the Bay Area
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Dec 1, 2021 07:03
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Currently 32€ shipped and after taxes here in Germany. 89€ for the 10yo cask strength.
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Dec 1, 2021 10:06
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Latest pickups: Old Elk Wheat Whiskey 6-year barrel proof (118.3) store pick R/bourbon Starlight Bourbon finished in Scotch Cask (Glendronach 21) 4.5 years (111.2) Barrell Single Barrel 7-year Kentucky Bourbon (121.02) store pick (Willett) I've opened the Old Elk and the Starlight Both are some of the most unique tasting American whiskeys I've had in a while. The Starlight really captures the Glendronach (and is surprisingly wildly different from the sherry cask Starlight) while still tasting like a bourbon. The Old Elk is exactly what I would wish Bernheim tasted like, the vanilla buttercream notes from this are just incredible. I'll pop the Barrell once I finish a few more bottles that are on their last few pours. This weekend I may do a comparison between the two bottles of Starlight that I have and my Glendronach 15, if I do I'll try to post notes.
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How do people feel about macallan 12 double cask? I saw it at Costco and got excited and bought 5 bottles. Quite excited to try it once I get rid of this cold.
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It's okay. Smells better than it tastes imo. Certainly not something I'd buy 5 bottles of.
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Dec 2, 2021 19:36
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ECBP B521 was meh, Weller Full Proof barrel pick was good value for $20, and Midwinter Night’s Dram was solid as always.  
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Bape Culture posted:How do people feel about macallan 12 double cask? Open one bottle, stick the rest in the back of the cupboard for a few years.
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