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RoboRodent
Sep 19, 2012

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

“Can’t do my job” and “please let me fix the problem myself” are not the same as the way you characterized it.

I don’t know why you’re assuming for no apparent this is in the hardest hit area too.


quote:

this is where they went off on us, saying that they were due for more floods and storms, are on alerts for potential evacuations, and that people are going to lose their homes, 

Landlord is on evacuation alert.

Everyone is in this story sucks, I loving hate it.

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datajugend
Jan 15, 2010

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
They could put the gaming computer in another room, maybe on top of their router.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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RoboRodent posted:

Just.

"hey, I know your area just got hit by a hurricane and everything's hosed up but can you arrange for someone to come look at this outlet that doesn't work?"

"hey, how's the forest fire evacuation going? Anyway can you come look at my leaky faucet?"

I am genuinely always in the "gently caress landlords" camp but holy poo poo read the room.

maybe it's just my turn in the idiot hot takes chair but: nah, gently caress em anyhow.

the primary thesis that landlords use to justify themselves as being anything except extortionate parasites is that they earn their rent premium by taking on risk in place of the tenant. his tenant is literally paying him substantial amounts of money to make stuff like this his problem instead of theirs. yeah, it's a hard time for him as a landlord, but that's when you earn your loving money. he's just pissy because his easy money stopped being easy.

it's possible the story is selectively edited and they're ringing his phone off the hook to bitch about the problem, but as presented their requests are pretty reasonable in quantity and scope. they're not demanding anything impossible of him, they're specifically trying to figure out a workaround that accounts for present conditions. for that matter, they're looking for a solution to a problem largely created by the landlord's poor planning in the first place.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I’m not sure if some of y’all read through the entire post or not.

The landlord is being accommodating due to the current situation. He offered to reimburse for extension cords and he also did pay for an electrician to come out and identify the problem.

The problem is that the fuse box is in another unit which is locked and yeah it’s understandable why the landlord doesn’t want some new tenant getting a locksmith to open some random unit up and going in there.

The landlord also never said they wouldn’t fix the problem it’s just currently not feasible to fix right this second due to an ongoing natural disaster.

The situation the renter is dealing with doesn’t make the house unlivable but I’m sure it’s frustrating.

It’s not like the problem is never getting fixed it’s just not feasible to fix right this second.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

If a landlord can't fix a problem within a day or two the property should be given to the tenant. Don't like it? Don't be a landlord.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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if the unit was wired properly in the first place the tenant probably could have fixed it on their own without needing to hire an electrician

if the landlord had the foresight to give a copy of the key to the other unit to a trusted repair person the problem would have been fixed in a single trip

"I know you pay me a lot of money to do something important for you, but have you considered that I'm really bad at it" does not elicit a lot of sympathy from me :shrug:

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

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the holy poopacy posted:

if the unit was wired properly in the first place the tenant probably could have fixed it on their own without needing to hire an electrician

if the landlord had the foresight to give a copy of the key to the other unit to a trusted repair person the problem would have been fixed in a single trip

"I know you pay me a lot of money to do something important for you, but have you considered that I'm really bad at it" does not elicit a lot of sympathy from me :shrug:

Yeah, the core problem is that the occupied unit is intrinsically connected to the inaccessible one. That's weird, hosed up wiring.

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON
yeah I'm firmly in camp 'landlord shouldn't be renting out the units when he can't fix that poo poo in a day or two' territory. the emergency situation just proves even more why landlords suck, bc frankly they're definitely never prepared for poo poo like that and likely he's not doing great by most of his tenants right now

landlords seem to plan for the best and ignore the possibility of the worst, and they get what's coming to them for it

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Pookah posted:

Yeah, the core problem is that the occupied unit is intrinsically connected to the inaccessible one. That's weird, hosed up wiring.

if the problem involves actual fuses then the wiring is very old and back then they did things like put half the house on one fuse. if it was divided into units later on, that explains a lot

The_Franz fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Dec 1, 2021

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

the holy poopacy posted:

maybe it's just my turn in the idiot hot takes chair but: nah, gently caress em anyhow.

the primary thesis that landlords use to justify themselves as being anything except extortionate parasites is that they earn their rent premium by taking on risk in place of the tenant. his tenant is literally paying him substantial amounts of money to make stuff like this his problem instead of theirs. yeah, it's a hard time for him as a landlord, but that's when you earn your loving money. he's just pissy because his easy money stopped being easy.

it's possible the story is selectively edited and they're ringing his phone off the hook to bitch about the problem, but as presented their requests are pretty reasonable in quantity and scope. they're not demanding anything impossible of him, they're specifically trying to figure out a workaround that accounts for present conditions. for that matter, they're looking for a solution to a problem largely created by the landlord's poor planning in the first place.
Thanks for posting what I was thinking but couldn't articulate.

Also eagerly awaiting the third act twist where we find out the landlord had two empty units because they evicted the previous tenants for lovely landlord in a pandemic reasons.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
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StrangersInTheNight posted:

yeah I'm firmly in camp 'landlord shouldn't be renting out the units when he can't fix that poo poo in a day or two' territory. the emergency situation just proves even more why landlords suck, bc frankly they're definitely never prepared for poo poo like that and likely he's not doing great by most of his tenants right now

landlords seem to plan for the best and ignore the possibility of the worst, and they get what's coming to them for it

if u can't handle me at my worst u don't deserve to live off my rents at my best

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


AITA for making a crass joke to make my Father in law uncomfortable

quote:

We were visiting my wife's parents. We don't visit at all. My wife doesn't have a good relationship with them.

My father law pulled me aside and told me that, he had to tell me something. He told me that I should reconsider the marriage because my wife is straight and she had never dated a woman before me. He also said my wife always loved the finer things in life and she married me because she couldn't find a rich man He said this with absolute sincerity.

I didn't know what I could say to that and I ended joking that if she is straight, she is really great at faking orgasms. He was vey embarrassed by it and dropped the subject.

My wife is upset with me because she hated that I talked to her parents about our sex life and her mom found it really inappropriate and is telling her to be more respectful. I feel like an rear end in a top hat because I didn't really defend her properly and embarassed her instead.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

RoboRodent posted:

Landlord is on evacuation alert.

Everyone is in this story sucks, I loving hate it.

Wanting to be able to do your real actual value added job doesn’t actually suck. What is the landlord being paid for if they can’t fix poo poo?

Dazerbeams
Jul 8, 2009

Wasn't the wife trying to use the room with no working outlets as her office? That's not just an inconvenience, that's impeding on her ability to earn money.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
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Dazerbeams posted:

Wasn't the wife trying to use the room with no working outlets as her office? That's not just an inconvenience, that's impeding on her ability to earn money.
Real curious how the landlord would react if they couldn't make rent.

RenegadeStyle1
Jun 7, 2005

Baby Come Back
Having your breaker box in another house for your electricity is some dumb rear end poo poo and I am not sure is even legal.

EIDE Van Hagar
Dec 8, 2000

Beep Boop
There are tons of over the garage apartments and similar that don’t have a separate utility hookup (and breaker box) depending on the scale of the main house and apartment.

RoboRodent
Sep 19, 2012

Okay, I had to go take a moment. Deep breath.

StrangersInTheNight posted:

the emergency situation just proves even more why landlords suck, bc frankly they're definitely never prepared for poo poo like that

The problem is that rainfall of this scale has never happened in this part of the world before. No one was prepared for it. It would have been very difficult to be prepared for it! Infrastructure that's been around for eighty years with no problems is just gone. Entire farms in the Abbotsford area are underwater, and have definitely lost their crops for the year. Vancouver is a major port city and it's been on-and-off entirely cut off from the rest of the country. This is all very, very, very bad, not only for the people who live in the affected areas (which, lets be clear, is most of the southern part of the province, a huge area). This isn't one city flooding. This is an absolutely catastrophic climate-change-related disaster caused by entirely brand new weather patterns, and there's a fair bit of evidence that this is going to be normal from now on.

It is extremely bad, guys. I am not exaggerating this.

And, frankly, that's more what I'm upset about than landlords or renters rights or whatever. I'm upset because I've dealt with too many people who take it extremely personally that they are minorly inconvenienced by a natural disaster of this scale, that their packages are delayed or the grocery store is out of eggs, while too many other people are losing everything they own.

It's stressful. I didn't realise I was this wound up about it. I'm sorry.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

“Cannot do your job” is not a minor inconvenience.

What a weird hill to die on.

You also just made up them actually being in/near this disaster site. That was never actually in the OP.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

StrangersInTheNight posted:

landlords seem to plan for the best and ignore the possibility of the worst, and they get what's coming to them for it

Well, usually they can squeeze the tenant into just going along with it, so they get away with it. The system works!

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Yeah this happens every time there's a disaster of some sort.

Landlords during a disaster: We are all victims of this situation, we must put aside our normal expectations and petty legalistic interpretations of the tenancy act and come together to get through this, not as landlords or tenants, but together as human beings.

Landlords immediately after a disaster: Although it hurts my heart, I've had to start eviction proceedings on 12 of my 15 tenants. I understand the recent disaster hurt many people's finances but rent is sacrosanct and agreements were signed, this is all correct in the eyes of the law.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


RoboRodent posted:

And, frankly, that's more what I'm upset about than landlords or renters rights or whatever. I'm upset because I've dealt with too many people who take it extremely personally that they are minorly inconvenienced by a natural disaster of this scale, that their packages are delayed or the grocery store is out of eggs, while too many other people are losing everything they own.

It's stressful. I didn't realise I was this wound up about it. I'm sorry.
I had no idea at all. That's dreadful. Actually, thank you for sharing your stress, because otherwise I wouldn't have known about this catastrophe. Stay safe.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

I have plenty of family members or friends that are small time landlords and I can’t imagine any of them not immediately offering to drop the rent until it was fixed or quickly arranging for someone in the area to fix it. Their failure to plan ahead is tough poo poo that’s what their getting paid for and blowing up at their customer serf for expecting them to earn their rent check is loving ridiculous.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

too many people are losing everything they own, and how dare those ungrateful peons bother those who own multiple families' worth of stuff and aren't at risk of losing it with petty bullshit like "you're going to make me lose everything I own"

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

“Cannot do your job” is not a minor inconvenience.

What a weird hill to die on.

You also just made up them actually being in/near this disaster site. That was never actually in the OP.

They offered to pay for extension cords as a temporary fix. So that absolutely takes care of the cannot do your job issue.

They aren’t saying it won’t ever get fixed they are saying it can’t get fixed right this second and offered things to temporarily fix the issue.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
you do not, in fact, have to hand it to landlords.

lidnsya
Nov 14, 2007
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-lidnsya.jpg"><br>All aboard the sleepy train!
The landlord should fix it as soon as possible but I'm not going to shed any tears for someone whose greatest hardship in life is having to use an extension cord for a few days (and is refusing the landlord's offer to reimburse for cables/power bar as a temp solution). Like gently caress off that the wife can't work when they could spend $20 of the landlord's money for a power bar and Ethernet cable to immediately rectify her issues until they can get an electrician into the other suite.

If it was that much of a problem, maybe they should have brought it up before the whole natural disaster thing instead of during.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

OP still wasn’t able to do their job, and the landlord refused to allow them to do the repairs and gave no timeline when it would be fixed if ever, nor offered any compensation.

In case you were wondering though there’s a reason the landlord is being a poo poo and making up excuses- they never intended to help.


Update! Landlord is actually even more of a greedy poo poo!

quote:


✨✨EDIT WITH A SMALL UPDATE✨✨ Landlord just came to my door with a notice. Now we only have until the 8th to move. She stood at the door screaming at me how she just wants to sell the house and be done with it. How they’re closing on the 12th and I’m being selfish for not having moved out already knowing she wants to be out of the area. So now instead of having 45-50 days to pack everything….I have 30 days to pack everything on top of dealing with kids, drs appts, my husband working, and normal every day things….great……..she also got pissed cause I closed the door in her face cause my oldest (13m autistic) was standing in the kitchen having a panic attack from her yelling.
💜EDIT #2 with some info💜
• We never knew the house was on the market. There was no sign, she never told us, nothing. Not even so much as a “fck you”. We had no heads up so we could get our affairs in order
• I wasn’t assuming she would say yes. I was simply trying to figure out what finances needed to go where so we could figure out bills which I usually start doing between the 10th & 15th for the following month
• Luckily I did look at a place I used to live today and put in an application. It’s in our price range, however I don’t know if they are gonna have a unit the size we need in time for us to move. One of my friends just said if need be we can stay with her until we find a unit in our price range (thank god)

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Whoops weird mobile app bug double post


Anyway guess the landlord had no problem going in person to issue an eviction request lol

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

OP still wasn’t able to do their job, and the landlord refused to allow them to do the repairs and gave no timeline when it would be fixed if ever, nor offered any compensation.

In case you were wondering though there’s a reason the landlord is being a poo poo and making up excuses- they never intended to help.


Update! Landlord is actually even more of a greedy poo poo!

I don’t think that’s the same landlord friend.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Oh lol whoops on mobile.

Nv

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

Oh lol whoops on mobile.

Nv

If you could find the original post though because that sounds spicy lol

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Anyway enough landlord enjoy DIC theory

quote:


AITA for calling my husband out on his offensive joke? (self.AmItheAsshole)
submitted 13 minutes ago by whitmoj

My husband wanted to share his business plan for the new year with me. We spent a bunch of time talking through his ideas and ways he could share it with his team members. We talked about doing a workshop and having members share what they’re doing that’s working well. My husband said that he could share how he manages to turn strangers into clients. Said his approach is basically competency, interest and diligence, “Jim’s DIC Theory”. Given that every single member of his team is female I told him that would likely be offensive and could result in a lawsuit. He flipped out and told me I have no sense of humor and thankfully don’t work for him. AITA for trying to explain that his “joke” is actually pretty offensive

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Awful app is having some weird bugs sorry for posting over and over

Uncle Enzo
Apr 28, 2008

I always wanted to be a Wizard

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

Anyway enough landlord enjoy DIC theory

Update:
My husband got fired. What next?

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

quote:


AITA for asking my landlord if we would have to pay rent due to them selling the house we rent out from under us (self.AmItheAsshole)
submitted 5 months ago * by Ordinary_Success8536
Yesterday afternoon (6/7/21) I got a text from my landlord that she is selling the house we have been renting out from under us. That we have until 7/31/21 to move out. I knew she didn’t plan on staying here in the state after her daughter finished college at the end of the year, so I figured we had til the end of this year to find other housing and save money for a deposit and such.
I sent her a text asking her if since she “dropped the bomb” that we have to move in basically 45-50 days, if we can keep July rent to put that towards moving costs and deposits since this is incredibly short notice. We have a small area we prefer to stay in due to my husbands job and my doctors (I have a rare disorder as well as a genetic heart defect). She got angry with me and started yelling at me through text message saying how she’s so unhappy living in this area and I knew she wanted to move away…despite me pointing out that as far as I knew, from our last conversation, it wasn’t going to be until the winter.
We have 3 children (a teen, a preteen, and a preschooler) that we also have to think about so that complicates things even more
AITA for even asking her if we have to pay July rent since she’s giving us such short notice to find new housing?
✨✨EDIT WITH A SMALL UPDATE✨✨ Landlord just came to my door with a notice. Now we only have until the 8th to move. She stood at the door screaming at me how she just wants to sell the house and be done with it. How they’re closing on the 12th and I’m being selfish for not having moved out already knowing she wants to be out of the area. So now instead of having 45-50 days to pack everything….I have 30 days to pack everything on top of dealing with kids, drs appts, my husband working, and normal every day things….great……..she also got pissed cause I closed the door in her face cause my oldest (13m autistic) was standing in the kitchen having a panic attack from her yelling.
💜EDIT #2 with some info💜
• We never knew the house was on the market. There was no sign, she never told us, nothing. Not even so much as a “fck you”. We had no heads up so we could get our affairs in order
• I wasn’t assuming she would say yes. I was simply trying to figure out what finances needed to go where so we could figure out bills which I usually start doing between the 10th & 15th for the following month
• Luckily I did look at a place I used to live today and put in an application. It’s in our price range, however I don’t know if they are gonna have a unit the size we need in time for us to move. One of my friends just said if need be we can stay with her until we find a unit in our price range (thank god)


Reddit voted OP the rear end in a top hat lol

Butter Activities fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Dec 1, 2021

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
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RoboRodent posted:

Okay, I had to go take a moment. Deep breath.

The problem is that rainfall of this scale has never happened in this part of the world before. No one was prepared for it. It would have been very difficult to be prepared for it! Infrastructure that's been around for eighty years with no problems is just gone. Entire farms in the Abbotsford area are underwater, and have definitely lost their crops for the year. Vancouver is a major port city and it's been on-and-off entirely cut off from the rest of the country. This is all very, very, very bad, not only for the people who live in the affected areas (which, lets be clear, is most of the southern part of the province, a huge area). This isn't one city flooding. This is an absolutely catastrophic climate-change-related disaster caused by entirely brand new weather patterns, and there's a fair bit of evidence that this is going to be normal from now on.

It is extremely bad, guys. I am not exaggerating this.

And, frankly, that's more what I'm upset about than landlords or renters rights or whatever. I'm upset because I've dealt with too many people who take it extremely personally that they are minorly inconvenienced by a natural disaster of this scale, that their packages are delayed or the grocery store is out of eggs, while too many other people are losing everything they own.

It's stressful. I didn't realise I was this wound up about it. I'm sorry.

I mean, on some level they should be pissed, they're largely just pissed at the wrong people. This specific disaster is unprecedented but that doesn't mean there aren't people whose job it is to plan for unprecedented contingencies, but they're not the ones delivering packages and stocking shelves. Sure, there's limits to how much disaster preparedness can do in the face of sheer physical realities but that doesn't mean that the crisis is not being exacerbated by planning failures.

The landlord's situation is actually a good case in point: the issue is not that the landlord can't drive across the province due to the flooding, the issue is that the landlord decided to keep the only means of accessing the fuse box 5 hours away from the house. The landlord was loving it up regardless, the disaster just magnified the consequences of his mistakes.

lidnsya posted:

The landlord should fix it as soon as possible but I'm not going to shed any tears for someone whose greatest hardship in life is having to use an extension cord for a few days (and is refusing the landlord's offer to reimburse for cables/power bar as a temp solution). Like gently caress off that the wife can't work when they could spend $20 of the landlord's money for a power bar and Ethernet cable to immediately rectify her issues until they can get an electrician into the other suite.

If it was that much of a problem, maybe they should have brought it up before the whole natural disaster thing instead of during.

I don't think you're wrong, but if they can suck it up and use an extension cord then the landlord can suck it up and listen to their complaints without throwing a tantrum.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

the holy poopacy posted:

I (M33) went on a date with my gf (F31) to makeup for transgressions of the previous weekend. Things didn't go well and I'm not sure if it's appropriate for me to think she was being somewhat unreasonable.

olylifter posted:

he's loving 33 acting like this. Jesus had followers and poo poo by this point and you're still loving up a concrete pad ya drunken halfwit, get your poo poo together.

Nooner posted:

"Sorry i got hammered and hosed up your parents driveway. Let me take you to a bar and drink until i cry to make up for it"
If I dated that woman I would never, ever be sober.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Halloween Jack posted:

If I dated that woman I would never, ever be sober.

It sounds like that's also what she wants, it's a match made in heaven!

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A Moose
Oct 22, 2009



From the landlord story, missing a few days of work is not a big deal, you just call your boss and say "ive been natural disastered and can't work for a couple days". It might suck to use some PTO or whatever, or maybe there's a temporary leave of absence you can use because a natural disaster hit? It's not that big a deal, unless it is and you have a terrible boss in which case you should probably find a better job anyway.

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