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Everyone calls P5S a musou-like but that is wrong. It's a Tales of Persona game.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I personally was super let down on P5:S since it takes what I like (Musou battles) and makes them small scale and also over in 5 seconds so you don't get any satisfaction from doing anything. The story is pretty much a direct sequel to Persona 5 though, wouldn't really recommend playing it first. I was reluctant to get into it for the exact reason you were excited about it; just saying "it's a musou game" with no qualifiers is v deceiving
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Dec 2, 2021 17:12
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Ibram Gaunt posted:
hello, goodbye, didn't even try
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Dec 2, 2021 17:28
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Does Boon Boost apply to skills like Lustre Candy/Debilitate or is it only to -kaja /-kunda buffs?
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Dec 2, 2021 17:31
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Monkey Fracas posted:I was reluctant to get into it for the exact reason you were excited about it; just saying "it's a musou game" with no qualifiers is v deceiving It's kinda literally a mousou game. It's officially in the dynasty warriors extended series.
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Dec 2, 2021 18:42
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TMS is good
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YggiDee posted:Does Boon Boost apply to skills like Lustre Candy/Debilitate or is it only to -kaja /-kunda buffs? Anything that raises/lowers stats.
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Dec 2, 2021 19:03
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Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE is my personal favorite, honestly. It's also pretty anime, though (I'm not sure what the consensus is on which is more (grossly, at least) anime between it and P5/S), so if you're not a fan of that you might wanna stay away. But it does have a soft spot in my heart, even if Fire Emblem's influence might as well just be the weapon triangle and effectiveness (which are both really, really nice things to inherit for a MegaTen game, mind you).
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Dec 2, 2021 21:45
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Okay, apparently the solution to the level difference problem is just build Nahobino around his ultimate skill dear god he crits for over 1500+ even against much higher level enemies. All I have left before advancing on the plot are Zeus and Vasuki and technically Ra but he's level 82, way too high for now. On that note, whats the usual level before the alignment lock? I wanna go for Secret on the first go but of I have to farm Gospels before fighting Shiva I might just give up and do it on NG+
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Dec 2, 2021 22:26
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What difficulty are you on? Playing on normal, I beat Shiva at level 87. Didn't have to do any grinding, but I did do every single side quest and et all my gospels. On hard mode you probably wanna add at least five levels to that, which is starting to stretch it unless you've been hoarding all your gospels.
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Dec 2, 2021 22:46
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:What difficulty are you on? Playing on normal, I beat Shiva at level 87. Didn't have to do any grinding, but I did do every single side quest and et all my gospels. On hard mode you probably wanna add at least five levels to that, which is starting to stretch it unless you've been hoarding all your gospels. Playing on Hard, but I have been hoarding my gospels, I think I have 10? So I could just jump over there in levels, the question is how much grinding until I get to 80-85 before popping them because I have no death wish.
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Dec 2, 2021 22:56
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There are five guaranteed Kushi Mitama spawns on the map, and even if you've found all of them, the first couple have probably respawned by now. Plus decent odds your navigator will dig one up while you're wrapping up the remaining sidequests. I think a couple of the sidequests yield a gospel or two as well, but I forget which. My bet is that you can scrape right up to the point where it's doable without grinding, but definitely won't be a picnic.
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Dec 2, 2021 23:05
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TMS is about managing a group of idols, making it hands down more anime than P5, the game where your teacher is your prostitute and maid. Man I haven't played this for a while, I got stuck on abdiel and the preamble before you can fight her is really, really annoying. I got her really close then my next attempt she killed my MC trivially in one round. I hate party rpgs where you game over if the MC dies, but it makes more sense for smt at least
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Dec 3, 2021 00:48
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I miss some of the support skills from SMT IV, there was a fun one called 'Bad Company' that just takes the three highest level fuckers in your stock and shoves them all into your party.
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Dec 3, 2021 00:59
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TMS remains my favorite of the recent SMT games even though I enjoy the rest fairly well. It has the most fun cast and I'll take goofy-rear end musicals any day of the week.
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Dec 3, 2021 01:00
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TMS is easily the best modern Persona game, and it's frankly not even close
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Dec 3, 2021 01:16
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It's really good but it's not that good
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Dec 3, 2021 01:18
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Lotus Aura posted:TMS is easily the best modern Persona game, and it's frankly not even close It's the one who's plot and character doesn't poo poo its pants so yeah.
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Dec 3, 2021 01:48
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Late late late game SMTV question: is the Abscess in the middle of Taito legit, or having a laugh? Clearly there’s some fuckery going on if I’m fighting level 99s.
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Dec 3, 2021 02:09
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Pollyanna posted:Late late late game SMTV question: is the Abscess in the middle of Taito legit, or having a laugh? Clearly there’s some fuckery going on if I’m fighting level 99s. Disabling them is the best way to go. Hit 'em with sleep and pick them off one at a time, starting with Pixie since she's the healer. They are buffed up versions of super weak monsters for a reason so they deal lots of damage and can take a lot, but they don't have any nasty tricks beyond that.
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Pollyanna posted:Late late late game SMTV question: is the Abscess in the middle of Taito legit, or having a laugh? Clearly there’s some fuckery going on if I’m fighting level 99s. I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but the fight is doable at around the same level as the others
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Dec 3, 2021 02:23
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Lotus Aura posted:TMS is easily the best modern Persona game, and it's frankly not even close Well persona isn't that great so it's a low bar
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Dec 3, 2021 02:26
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I still think just in terms of story/character/theme coherence, the P2 duology was the peak of the series, while 4 was probably the best of the Hashino trilogy.
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Dec 3, 2021 02:59
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Persona 3 owns
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Dec 3, 2021 03:27
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I'm a big weirdo with Persona like I am with any of my fandoms, so for me it's P3>P5>P2>P1>>>>>>>>>>>P4. I personally find P4 to be the worst of the entire franchise in that it does absolutely gently caress all for me, and while the older set are still good, they....haven't aged all that gracefully.
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Dec 3, 2021 04:01
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It's very far from perfect, but I respect P3 a lot for trailblazing. SMT5 has me thinking about the gameplay to visual novel ratio across SMT, and of the modern personas 3 kept the story stripped down enough you spent relatively the most time actually playing it
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Dec 3, 2021 04:08
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I don't know if playing more of Tartarus was a positive aspect of P3.... It's why I've never understood The Answer. All I know about it is it changes a load of stuff from P3's plot but also it's not at all plot driven, more just a huge grind. Because what made P3 a success was the...gameplay? I don't get it. At least P4's dungeons had a theme and cool music.
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Dec 3, 2021 04:14
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P4 sucks rear end and even as a teen I was thoroughly confused why it was so much more popular than P3. When I played P4G as an adult it was just, a bad game, full stop I'm a little afraid of going back and playing P3 again and discovering that it is also bad P5 was a lot of fun but it's also a game that doesn't bear any close examination and the more talking about it afterwards I did, the less I wanted to replay it
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Pollyanna posted:Late late late game SMTV question: is the Abscess in the middle of Taito legit, or having a laugh? Clearly there’s some fuckery going on if I’m fighting level 99s. You can beat it around level 60. It looks scarier than it is.
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Dec 3, 2021 04:24
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Saagonsa posted:Persona 3 owns
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cheetah7071 posted:P4 sucks rear end and even as a teen I was thoroughly confused why it was so much more popular than P3. When I played P4G as an adult it was just, a bad game, full stop My memories of P3's Tartarus dungeon was not only that it was visually a dull slog, but thematically uninteresting, and kinda unexplored that much beyond "this is a dungeon we have to keep going up for vague reasons until the very end". The Kirijo Group stuff and its implications, along with the battle robot girl completely taking over the plot for the rest of the game, sidelining the other characters, etc. ended up leaving not much of a good impression with me. The "let's date an actual child" arc in the PSP remake was not exactly great either.
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Dec 3, 2021 05:18
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the robot girl was the best part though
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Tartarus ruled. Very comfy. and it was cool how more stuff was added to the music as you got higher and higher.
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Dec 3, 2021 05:22
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P3 sidelined it's cast far less than 4 or 5
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Dec 3, 2021 05:25
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Unfortunately, 2/3rds of that cast isn't interesting at all Also P4 doesn't sideline the cast at all lmao
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Dec 3, 2021 05:26
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4 is the best one because they are friends 
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Farg posted:4 is the best one because they are friends his is really the essence of it for me. I've had many arguments about P3 vs P4 since I first played them and the topic of how SEES barely gets along and how dysfunctional they are vs. the Investigation Team's undying affection for one another has come up a lot. My favorite 2 Persona games are P2 Innocent Sin and Persona 4 and I attribute a lot of this to how much both games put a strong emphasis on the party's closeness. You really do get the feeling these people are like family. Persona 5 seemed like it halfheartedly tried for this at times, attempting to recapture the P4 magic. but P3 didn't even bother. SEES is more like a group of cliques, teh older classmen like Mitsuru, Akihiko, and Shinji. Then you have the younger classmen, which is you, Junpei, and Yukari. And then Aigis is there and is only really close to you, and Ken is...Ken. The only thing any of them have in common is being part of SEES and orbiting around you.
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I think P3 is my least favorite/personal worst of the series even though I have huge nostalgia for it like a lot of other people. To me the story is the worst in the series because it never really does anything with the Persona games' central idea of "thoughts becoming reality" like all the other games do, outside of some kind of vague "humanity as a whole is depressed and wants to die" or whatever. All the central concepts like Tartarus/the Dark Hour are barely explained with handwaving like "some evil company tried to make a time machine". There is barely any connection between the dungeon crawling and the overall plot, the full moon shadows/dungeons also fall flat compared to how much they are built up narratively since they are mostly complete pushovers compared to the rando Tartarus mid-bosses that are just re-colored normal enemies with no fanfare. I assume it was to avoid re-watching long cutscenes if you got a game over during the full moon sections but they could have easily rectified that by adding more save points to the game. As far as gameplay the decision to make everyone except the main character AI-controlled in a turn based game was a terrible one especially with the large amount of enemies with charm and confuse spells that render you unable to do anything but watch if they hit the main character. In fairness I think that even though I consider the overall plot to be the worst in the series the character growth is probably the series' best since it wasn't relegated to social link scenes only like the later games. And the atmosphere in the final month of the game is fantastic and the tonal shifts at the end of P4 and 5 feel like pale imitations of it. As far as favorites in the series it's a bit divided, P1 and P2 had the most interesting stories of the series conceptually but the gameplay does not hold up well at all. P5 is overall the best package as far as gameplay, style, etc. The story was a bit disappointing after the 8 year wait, though I think people really blow that way out of proportion to say it's an awful game. Maybe part of it is that the marketing leading up to the game led people to expect a more politically radical story, when the series has always been more about the characters' personal growth as opposed to SMT games that always revolve around remaking the social order of the world. TMS was kind of a just OK/middling game though it did have some scenes in the social links that were funnier than anything in the Persona series.
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cheetah7071 posted:the robot girl was the best part though  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0e07WXxrMI I think P3 is the game I've engaged with its universe the most without actually playing the game lol In SMT news I thought I could finish SMTV before Endwalker, but even with the delay... nope lol
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Eat poo poo Shiva
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