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Complications posted:A lot of very rich people made sure that the health and welfare
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Dec 2, 2021 21:59
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splifyphus posted:the semantic apocalypse in full swing - get you some. 
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Dec 2, 2021 22:02
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Raine posted:gently caress off You gently caress off. Why do you think it's ok to talk to people like that?
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Dec 2, 2021 22:06
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https://twitter.com/pkedrosky/status/1466232825569431554quote:The past two years have been the driest back-to-back years in Northern California since 1976-77, leaving major reservoirs at record-low levels. Lake Oroville, in Butte County, the second-largest reservoir in the state and the largest in the State Water Project, was just 30% full Wednesday.
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Dec 2, 2021 22:07
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splifyphus posted:exxon falsifies the info to keep the party going. carlin tells you the info doesn't even loving matter in the first place, because we don't matter, because 'the universe' doesn't care about us, cuz 'the planet' will be fine. which is worse? 
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Dec 2, 2021 22:09
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goochtit posted:https://twitter.com/pkedrosky/status/1466232825569431554 Don't make me pull this planet over. I'm going to count to 5 degradation. 1 Degradation. 2 Degradation. ........3 Degradation.
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Dec 2, 2021 22:10
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note they're still getting enough water for human use, just not enough for lawns or irrigation quote:Nemeth said her department is in discussions with seven of the 29 urban and agricultural agencies that contract to receive State Water Project water for them to receive “very modest” amounts of “health and safety” water next summer for fire fighting, hospitals and some indoor uses, including drinking water, toilets, showers and clothes washing, but not for landscape irrigation.
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Dec 2, 2021 22:11
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Funky See Funky Do posted:You gently caress off. Why do you think it's ok to talk to people like that? Listen, FSFD, I really agree with you about it being wrong to talk to people like that. But you really undercut your point by telling them to gently caress off too. Anyway my message to you from me, good poster PMJ, is to gently caress On. gently caress on baby.
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Dec 2, 2021 22:15
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ladies and gentlegoons, +1c presents.....
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Dec 2, 2021 22:20
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someone didn't get their microplastics this morning i see
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Dec 2, 2021 22:20
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lol if we live long enough to see +1.5c in like 30 years. what a show that's gunna be
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Dec 2, 2021 22:22
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we were already at +1.4c in some places like alaska, and that's before current brutal heat wave so that number is probably higher now 30 years is today buddy
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Dec 2, 2021 22:31
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Funky See Funky Do posted:You gently caress off. Why do you think it's ok to talk to people like that? Funk you
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Dec 2, 2021 22:34
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why engage with someone who presents a gulag-level take when you can just tell them to gently caress off patience and word salads are pointless wastes of time
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Dec 2, 2021 22:34
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-03/satellites-are-challenging-australias-coal-mining-industry/100663676 There's no way any climate model used for IPCC reports is even close to accurate. Pryor on Fire posted:30 years is today buddy lol lmao
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Dec 2, 2021 22:41
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im looking at the map... it says: i don't give a gently caress! I'm gonna take a 30 min shower hahahahah
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Dec 2, 2021 22:44
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Pryor on Fire posted:we were already at +1.4c in some places like alaska, and that's before current brutal heat wave so that number is probably higher now oh yeah no certainly. global average is a hilariously misleading and terrible metric which is precisely why it's so funny. because its uh, global which includes water that's a massive mass, and as water increasingly does so making far worse far frequent weather events and thermal swings. and that also means some areas will be getting turbofucked more and others in the opposite direction.
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Dec 2, 2021 22:50
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gently caress
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Dec 2, 2021 23:00
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Raine posted:why engage with someone who presents a gulag-level take when you can just tell them to gently caress off Contra the rad-liberal credo "It's not my job to educate you" every real communist understands it is absolutely their duty to themselves, their interlocutor, and all of humanity, yes, to educate. Nobody cares about your assumed superiority - if someone is misguided you're obligated to lead them to water, yes, we have to do that. Because there are people who dedicate a lot of time, effort, men, and money to confuse us (there are also those who have just have been duped and aren't, you know, malign but this doesn't change anything about our approach).
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Dec 2, 2021 23:00
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°C++
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Dec 2, 2021 23:15
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Funky See Funky Do posted:I wish this thread didn't have to be in a politics forum. I guess it doesn't really fit anywhere else and I guess there's nowhere on the forums where people won't start going after long dead comedians for being fascist planet killers, but still... there is no outside of politics. tiberion02 posted:they are all humans, yes there is not, and has never been any such thing as a human. it's an empty, obfuscatory liberal abstraction. there is no loving neutral. y'all have some serious deprogramming to do. coke posted:he is right though, it's the bougie environmentalist who want to take away our cars and our means to struggle and make a living you are thinking as if the world, as it is now, has a future. it does not. 'what else can you do' you start blowing up cars and killing the people who drive them. it's all going away anyways. you have no obligation to the system that has murdered virtually every known life form in the universe. stop identifying with it and be free. SKULL.GIF posted:One must imagine Splifyphus happy. emotional fetishization is a mistake. stop feeling, start thinking. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 2, 2021 23:16
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Homeless Friend posted:im looking at the map... it says: i don't give a gently caress! I'm gonna take a 30 min shower hahahahah 
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Dec 2, 2021 23:17
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Contra the rad-liberal credo "It's not my job to educate you" every real communist understands it is absolutely their duty to themselves, their interlocutor, and all of humanity, yes, to educate. Nobody cares about your assumed superiority - if someone is misguided you're obligated to lead them to water, yes, we have to do that. Because there are people who dedicate a lot of time, effort, men, and money to confuse us (there are also those who have just have been duped and aren't, you know, malign but this doesn't change anything about our approach). there's a threshold someone has to be at before i make effort to "educate" them ive gone over poo poo with thousands of people offline and online and 99% of the time it was a pointless waste of energy educating people to gently caress off is easier and probably builds character or something
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Dec 2, 2021 23:20
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Raine posted:there's a threshold someone has to be at before i make effort to "educate" them Most people who aren't communists are actually innocent dupes in a way, but their susceptibility to astroturf propaganda is a personality fault and mental weakness that discourse, especially online, can't fix. Thanks to the defunding and destruction of the public school system in the US few people, including communists and leftists (many of whom aren't much brighter than the average chud) can't think critically about anything and can't run their own lives let alone cast a vote for policies that would run others'. It's no accident that we're increasingly an ignorant and pliable population and the answer isn't platitudes or engagement with people who are run by their prejudices and worship ignorance, it's marginalization, deplatforming, and fighting head on with protests etc. Of course none of this matters because we're locked into hell future, so do whatever makes you feel best
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Dec 2, 2021 23:30
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Raine posted:there's a threshold someone has to be at before i make effort to "educate" them I think only at the point you discover they're intentionally malign or so stupid or narcissistic as to be passively malign that it's worthwhile to disengage. Mostly everyone has a capacity for grasping the truth of things just a different pace about them. There are points where you will run against (almost) totally unmoveable ideology due to some material interest of theirs and maybe I can agree disengagement at that point if I wasn't rather stubborn. But, if there's an audience it's worthwhile nonetheless.
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Dec 2, 2021 23:31
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we should all be nice to each other imho
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Dec 2, 2021 23:33
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T-Paine posted:Most people who aren't communists are actually innocent dupes in a way, but their susceptibility to astroturf propaganda is a personality fault and mental weakness that discourse, especially online, can't fix. Thanks to the defunding and destruction of the public school system in the US few people, including communists and leftists (many of whom aren't much brighter than the average chud) can't think critically about anything and can't run their own lives let alone cast a vote for policies that would run others'. It's no accident that we're increasingly an ignorant and pliable population and the answer isn't platitudes or engagement with people who are run by their prejudices and worship ignorance, it's marginalization, deplatforming, and fighting head on with protests etc. Of course none of this matters because we're locked into hell future, so do whatever makes you feel best I don't think you can effectively marginalize people who outnumber you without being the enemy; it sucks and it's hard and it's not going to see results within your lifetime but PMJ's "educate people" take is the only path forward in a theoretical alternate reality where forward exists meanwhile in hellworld, of course, chill and drink more tea or whatever this poo poo is delicious
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Dec 2, 2021 23:37
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Irony.or.Death posted:I don't think you can effectively marginalize people who outnumber you without being the enemy; 
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Dec 2, 2021 23:40
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T-Paine posted:Most people who aren't communists are actually innocent dupes in a way, but their susceptibility to astroturf propaganda is a personality fault and mental weakness that discourse, especially online, can't fix. Thanks to the defunding and destruction of the public school system in the US few people, including communists and leftists (many of whom aren't much brighter than the average chud) can't think critically about anything and can't run their own lives let alone cast a vote for policies that would run others'. It's no accident that we're increasingly an ignorant and pliable population and the answer isn't platitudes or engagement with people who are run by their prejudices and worship ignorance, it's marginalization, deplatforming, and fighting head on with protests etc. Of course none of this matters because we're locked into hell future, so do whatever makes you feel best With a good grasp of Marxism you can explain other people's ideas to them and let that play out for them. I've gotten very brainwashed Trumpers to think loving dialectically. They're really fully capable of it. Unfortunately you will absolutely hit a brick wall of ideology, compartmentalizatios so strong that anti-rationality has taken hold, and then you gotta call it quits there. Trump is a God to them and any evidence to the contrary is not heard, e.g. It's sad. Not all of them are fascists, some of them are just tremendously duped (most of them cradle to contemporary, many also brainwashed in military service). I hold out hope that there's something that can break the spell. I'm not sure. As for the real fascists they should be killed.
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Dec 2, 2021 23:43
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starkebn posted:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-03/satellites-are-challenging-australias-coal-mining-industry/100663676 IPCC climate modeling doesn’t work off nation specific emissions estimates for this reason. Which is why we get the SSPs and RCPs and all that layer of bullshit, specifically so that if Australia or whoever is lying then it only changes which pathway we’re closest to
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Dec 2, 2021 23:54
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splifyphus posted:you're right, i should have been more precise. he's a proto-fascist and so are you. at least actual fascists have the self awareness and courage to act on their convictions, instead of turning them into entertainment for the very people they despise. syq lol lmao
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Dec 3, 2021 00:04
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Xaris posted:lol if we live long enough to see +1.5c in like 30 years. what a show that's gunna be I know you didn't mean it this way, but this is a perfect example of how deep and pervasive climate science "denial" is. Look at where the dotted line crosses the 1.5C line in the top part of this chart:  So the "science" says +1.5C in 2040 (19 years). It also has +/- 10 years built in around the 1/3rd and 2/3rds confidence levels, so 2030 is entirely plausible (9 years). But thats the *old* IPCC estimate, the newer one doesn't have as simple a graph but basically moves the timeline up 5 years. So really the science/ipcc says "we could hit +1.5C in 2025". Here in the CSPAM climate thread its a widely held view that the IPCC models are missing major factors, and the reports are watered down via the stakeholders and process it takes to publish them, and we've seen a track record of reality trending worse than the predictions. So what that all adds up to is... we will very very likely see +1.5C globally within the 2020s. Not 30 years, more like 5 - 10. MightyBigMinus has issued a correction as of 00:14 on Dec 3, 2021 |
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Dec 3, 2021 00:09
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MightyBigMinus posted:I know you didn't mean it this way, but this is a perfect example of how deep and pervasive climate science "denial" is. this is my old rant about why we have to include the baseline year when saying +degrees. because maybe they meant +1.5C (from 2021 base year), which isnt insanely unreasonable
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Dec 3, 2021 00:16
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lol i wonder how many standard deviations this is. probably nbd
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Dec 3, 2021 00:19
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I agree with whoever that poster is, this thread should not be in a political forum, it should be in pet island
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Dec 3, 2021 00:23
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oops sea level went up all pets drowned
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Dec 3, 2021 00:28
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pet island is considering abandoning it's territorial holdings and is reaching out to cycle asylum for climate refugee status.
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Dec 3, 2021 00:29
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splifyphus posted:sure am thanks for asking. and how's your mass extinction event going today? actually it doesn’t matter and the earth will be engulfed in plasma in 3 billion years
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Dec 3, 2021 00:40
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:we should all be nice to each other gently caress you we're all gonna die aaghghhghhgh  Homeless Friend posted:im looking at the map... it says: i don't give a gently caress! I'm gonna take a 30 min shower hahahahah cali goon here. i take showers as long as i want. i need to absorb that hot, steamy microplastic to relax after a long day of inhaling car exhaust.
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Dec 3, 2021 00:42
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Every time this gets quoted it looks worse I swear there wasn't black the last time I saw it. Why the fucj does a temperature chart have black goddamn
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Dec 3, 2021 00:44
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