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Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA
The sad truth is that we need to plant the flag at several more viable moons and asteroids so that we don't cede initiative and power to the remaining capitalist nations.

Japan, India or hawaii launching a colonisation effort in Saturn's belt is not anything we can tolerate. Or any of the even worse imperialistic capitalistic nations remaining.

Thoughts?

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zanni
Apr 28, 2018

Madwoman that I am, I have 3 initial proposals I'm looking for opinions on;

The Agreement on Interplanetary Disarmament Act, AIDA

quote:


1- Global nuclear disarmament, a simultaneous process with mutual observation agencies with both comintern and non-comintern polities, to ensure a peaceful end to global nuclear threats;
2- Discontinue all production of new nuclear warheads, save for those that may be necessary for space-based defense;
3- Make provisions to completely replace all future spaceborne nuclear weapons when and if a viable alternative is found, to be accomplished as rapidly as possible and with the aim of complete elimination of nuclear arms from humanity's arsenal;
4- Agreement to remove the ability and knowledge of nuclear arms production once said elimination is complete

The Civilian Intimidation, Terror, and Retaliation Act, CITRA

quote:


1- Ban any acts of violence, terror, torture or retaliation against civilian populaces or individuals being allowable under any circumstance;
2- To codify said ban in the laws and operations of all Comintern military organizations, including land, sea, air, and spaceborne agencies.
3- To try in criminal court both Comintern and Non-Comintern polities, organizations, and individuals who commit acts of violence, terror, torture or retaliation against civilian populaces or individuals, up to and including capital punishment if deemed necessary;
4- To ban all production of terror weapons, chemical agents, and any other objects that are intended for use in acts of violence, terror, torture or retaliation against civilian populaces or individuals;
5- To ban research into any future technologies intended for use in said acts

The interStellar Protective Espionage Counter Terrorism and Reactive Enforcement Act (SPECTRE)

quote:


The SPECTRE act designates a new intelligence gathering organization to be formed under the purview of the Cominterp, for the purposes of counter-intelligence, investigation, surveillance, and the general safeguarding of Cominterp nations and citizens from covert threats. SPECTRE would be an international organization, gathering volunteers and funding from Cominterp member countries, and would answer to the Cominterp as a whole.

SPECTRE would make use of FESTER, as well as more traditional means of surveillance and intelligence gathering.

SPECTRE would have the authority to initiate surveillance and advise Cominterp national governments of potential threats. Policing actions, such as arrests, raids, and covert military actions, are only possible via an approved proposal put before the relevant Cominterp authority.

As there would be the danger of SPECTRE being used to violate citizens' individual rights or as a tool of state repression, significant oversight and accountability practices would be laid in place to avoid misconduct by individuals or groups employed within SPECTRE, for the benefit of themselves or their countries of origin.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013

Affi posted:

The sad truth is that we need to plant the flag at several more viable moons and asteroids so that we don't cede initiative and power to the remaining capitalist nations.

Japan, India or hawaii launching a colonisation effort in Saturn's belt is not anything we can tolerate. Or any of the even worse imperialistic capitalistic nations remaining.

Thoughts?

Well, establishing my taskforce for designation of colonization targets would speed up our own efforts on that front considerably.

VideoWitch
Oct 9, 2012

Here are my two proposals
Proposal for the formation of the Psychonauts Corp

quote:

The Pyschonauts Corp shall be formed as an independent research division. They shall be given a budget comparable to that of other research divisions and a deadline of 5 years. At the end of that time a committee will meet to determine whether they have made or are making worthwhile contributions to the field of science or not. If the committee has determined they have failed to do so the division shall be closed.

Proposal for intervention in Israel

quote:

1)The implementation of anti missile railguns within range of Israel shall be prioritized
2)Diplomatic outreach shall be made to Israel in an attempt to get them to end their apartheid regime peacefully.
3)Personnel from the military will meet with the PLO to establish plans for military intervention should the attempts at diplomacy fail to make significant progress before the railguns are in place.

Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth
The USS North Carolina proposal

quote:

WHEREAS, The Republic of the Outer Banks wishes to contribute to the safety of the Cominterp,
WHEREAS, the Republic of the Outer Banks cannot contribute to land defense due to radiation,
WHEREAS, the Republic of the Outer Banks does not have the shipbuilding capability necessary to refit and rebuild large vessels,
THEREFORE, the Republic of the Outer Banks wishes to offer the USS North Carolina to the Cominterp as the first naval vessel to be a member of no nation, but an idea.

sheep-dodger
Feb 21, 2013

zanni posted:

2- Discontinue all production of new nuclear warheads, save for those that may be necessary for space-based defense;
This seems like a loophole large enough to drive several intercontinental ballistic missiles through, since presumably any missile built for space based defence (be that surface to space or space to space) can also be weaponised on the planet. Idk how reliant we currently are on nukes, but this seems like it would undermine the rest of your proposal to me at least.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
For my first bill, I wish to submit the Cosmological Development Quantification Doctrine

Put simply, this bill will Expand the economic ministry to handle the infrastructure development of unorganized space settlements.

But, additionally, it will establish legislatively the ability for settlements who have breached the autonomous comintern development threshold of one million to create their own organizations for economic development, alongside giving them the ability to draw up plans for the handover of economic autonomy on their own terms.

As a subsidiary, this will also create an inter-ministry committee to coordinate between MOSA and the economic ministry.

In tandem with this it will create a department of the economic ministry to handle in tandem with MOSA, the granting of charters for spacebourne cooperatives and recognized allied programs, with the first priority being the granting of a charter to the Fraternal Order of Mars

Finally, this committee will act as a task force to designate new sites for colonization and to begin the process.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Mister Bates posted:


Academician Matveyev is put to work getting them in the field. This technically violates your legislation, which prohibits scientists from working outside of their area of expertise, but you have no Ground Combat specialists at all, so I am forced to choose between two contradictory instructions. I choose the one that will result in continued progress towards your research goals, and order Matveyev to work outside of his field.

Proposal to formalize this.

Amend the legislation for researcher assignments:

Researchers MAY be tasked with work outside of their fields if there is no relevant work within their fields to be tasked with, and that they SHOULD be retasked when that situation changes. Deviation shall require written justification within 48 hours.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013

VideoWitch posted:

Here are my two proposals
Proposal for the formation of the Psychonauts Corp

Proposal for intervention in Israel


Mycroft Holmes posted:

The USS North Carolina proposal

sebmojo posted:

what's the current status of our in-system exploration efforts? and with the new engines/scanners could we design and build a cheap, long range exploration ship to investigate further out?

Pending positive answers to those questions, I'm proposing a bill to fund and implement the Krusenstern Initiative, a systematic survey of all the major bodies in the solar system.


zanni posted:

Madwoman that I am, I have 3 initial proposals I'm looking for opinions on;

The Agreement on Interplanetary Disarmament Act, AIDA

The Civilian Intimidation, Terror, and Retaliation Act, CITRA

The interStellar Protective Espionage Counter Terrorism and Reactive Enforcement Act (SPECTRE)


Volmarias posted:

Proposal to formalize this.

Amend the legislation for researcher assignments:

Researchers MAY be tasked with work outside of their fields if there is no relevant work within their fields to be tasked with, and that they SHOULD be retasked when that situation changes. Deviation shall require written justification within 48 hours.


Just wanted to second all these, because we've been forgetting to do that. Can someone second my stuff?

Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth

zanni posted:

Madwoman that I am, I have 3 initial proposals I'm looking for opinions on;

The Agreement on Interplanetary Disarmament Act, AIDA

The Civilian Intimidation, Terror, and Retaliation Act, CITRA

The interStellar Protective Espionage Counter Terrorism and Reactive Enforcement Act (SPECTRE)


VideoWitch posted:

Here are my two proposals
Proposal for the formation of the Psychonauts Corp

Proposal for intervention in Israel

sebmojo posted:

what's the current status of our in-system exploration efforts? and with the new engines/scanners could we design and build a cheap, long range exploration ship to investigate further out?

Pending positive answers to those questions, I'm proposing a bill to fund and implement the Krusenstern Initiative, a systematic survey of all the major bodies in the solar system.


NewMars posted:

For my first bill, I wish to submit the Cosmological Development Quantification Doctrine

Put simply, this bill will Expand the economic ministry to handle the infrastructure development of unorganized space settlements.

But, additionally, it will establish legislatively the ability for settlements who have breached the autonomous comintern development threshold of one million to create their own organizations for economic development, alongside giving them the ability to draw up plans for the handover of economic autonomy on their own terms.

As a subsidiary, this will also create an inter-ministry committee to coordinate between MOSA and the economic ministry.

In tandem with this it will create a department of the economic ministry to handle in tandem with MOSA, the granting of charters for spacebourne cooperatives and recognized allied programs, with the first priority being the granting of a charter to the Fraternal Order of Mars

Finally, this committee will act as a task force to designate new sites for colonization and to begin the process.

The Republic of the Outer Banks seconds these proposals.

TDS
Feb 17, 2021

quote:

The Ascension Accords Act reads as follows:
The Comintern shall begin immediate, diplomatic outreach to all relevant policies on earth, or in the case of Japan, continue said outreach, with the goal of forming an accord that shall lay down ground rules for the use and colonisation of space. While absolute consent from all nations is not required, the resulting accord should have a broad basis of support among both comintern and non-aligned nations, or at least those likely to build spacecraft in the forseeable future.

So, what is the status of this diplomatic outreach, have any policies commented on the proposed draft? Is there anything in them that's a dealbreaker we need to adjust?

If not, I'll probably just propose we just finalize the draft.

Communist Zombie
Nov 1, 2011
Unchaining of intellectual and creative works act

quote:

We propose a motion to abolish all forms of intellectual property within the Cominterp. Wherein to support and recognize the labor workers have expended in creative works, this is a motion of in perpetuity, acknowledgement and dedication to the original creator or creators, and the right to designate which works are considered 'official' for the lifetime of the creator or creators. In support of this there shall be a ‘global registry of works’ that shall maintain records of authorship, and be a place where new works can be checked against old works, and credit for other’s ideas or works shall be appended if it's deemed appropriate.
Wherein it is self-evident that capitalism shall endeavour to steal and exploit the labor of workers, outside the Cominterp creator(s) and the Cominterp as a whole shall be considered ‘owners’ of intellectual property and that it follows each states intellectual property laws. The appropriate bodies or persons within the Cominterp are authorized to use all legal and diplomatic actions within a non Cominterp state to ensure that Cominterp works are both used fairly and the creator(s) receive fair compensation.


Medal creation act #X

quote:

We propose the creation of 3 medals to cover the following:
  • Service in anti-imperialist/capitalist wars, for post GRW mop up operations or other conflicts that aren't revolutions.
  • ‘Minor’ revolutionary wars, aka ones that wouldn't be covered by the GRW
  • Interkosmos Incident / European Insurgency medal of three orders: lowest for civilian and non militia workers involved, middle those that fought, highest for the ones that lost their lives. Interkosmos personnel will have a modified version that will be determined during design.
  • The greater GLADIO conflict.
Additionally medal proposals are not counted towards the 3 proposal limit if the delegates medals are bundled together. If they are to be voted individually then they shall count towards the limit


The People's Calendar Act

quote:

Section 1
What is the new calender?
We propose a motion to reform the calendar in use for civil purposes by the Cominterp. The current Gregorian calendar is a European Christian religious calendar, which for many of the delegates here is reason enough to change it. And from a horological point of view there are many technical issues with it. Instead of boring the People’s Congress with many fine minutia I shall merely list several options, and their benefits. It must also be stressed that this will not replace or supplant religious calendars, and for religions whose calendar or method of counting days differs from the civil calendar they shall have the full right and privilege to practice their practices when their calendar says it is time. [The first two options have been shot down before because their weeks will drift from every 7 days is a week]
All except the last two options are perennial, which means that each date has the same day of the week every year. Delegates can vote for multiple options [This would merely be for fluff]
  1. International Fixed Calendar - 13 months of 28 days, leap days and the last day of the year are separate from months and days of the week.
  2. World Calendar - 12 months with 31, 30, 30 days repeating, leap days and the last day of the year are separate from months and days of the week.
  3. Pax calendar - 13 months with 28 days, has a leap week that is also its own month before december.
  4. Symmetry454 - 12 months with 28, 35, 28 repeating (or 4-5-4 weeks), has a leap week appended to the end of December.
  5. French Revolutionary Calendar - The option that goes without saying. 12 months of 30 days, with 10 day weeks. Possibly with revisions as some of its rules contradict each other.
  6. None of the above, stick with Gregorian.
  7. Decimal Calendar - 10 months alternating between 36 and 37 days. We're not going full decimal. Propose it yourself.

Section 2
When is Year 1?
  • The end of the GRW to mark the beginning of the triumph of socialism. Revolutionary Era (RE)
  • In the future when all of capitalism is crushed. Solidarity Forever (SF)
  • When the Communist Manifesto was published. Marxist Era (ME)
  • 10,000 years ago, roughly when the current geological era started and the oldest inhabited places. Human or Holocene Era (HE)

Addendum: This act shall also authorize the Cominterp to designate annual paid holidays, of which Labor Day and end of the GRW / establishment of the cominterp. Additionally workers that are working in their polities paid holidays shall not only get their paid day off at a date of their choosing but shall also be paid extra during the holiday.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

quote:

French Revolutionary Calendar - The option that goes without saying. 12 months of 30 days, with 10 day weeks. Possibly with revisions as some of its rules contradict each other.

:thermidor: intensifies

Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth

Communist Zombie posted:

Unchaining of intellectual and creative works act

Medal creation act #X


The Republic of the Outer Banks supports these proposals, but feels the calendar proposal is doomed to fail for the same reasons as the French revolutionary one, the Gregorian calendar is too entrenched now to repeal. All computers currently use it, and recoding them all would be a nightmare.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
Second Bill!

The Comintern Statement of Condemnation towards False Treaties and Dismantlement of Economic Imperialism Act

First, the Comintern shall state that "false treaties" such as those that spuriously "legalize" the forced economic repatriations, seizure of land, "leasing" of ports, colonization and seizure of native land, property and peoples, shall not be recognized by the Comintern.

Second, the Comintern shall establish a Taskforce for the Dismantlement of Economic Imperialism whose duty it shall be to expand the IPRA, specifically targeting the repatriation of illegally stolen "reparations." First issue on the agenda: paying back the tribute levied on Haiti for freeing itself from slavery.

Pacho
Jun 9, 2010
The NOMADs second representatives NewMars and zanni's proposals

zanni
Apr 28, 2018

sheep-dodger posted:

This seems like a loophole large enough to drive several intercontinental ballistic missiles through, since presumably any missile built for space based defence (be that surface to space or space to space) can also be weaponised on the planet. Idk how reliant we currently are on nukes, but this seems like it would undermine the rest of your proposal to me at least.

i agree its a flawed part of the bill, but that was the compromise i had to add so the more militarily minded people were happy

(ooc, its bc theres no missiles other than nuclear ones until way later in the tech tree and war people were Up In Arms that if we didnt have missiles the sky would fall or whatever. there Is some upcoming legislation to have our naval strategy be focused on fighters/bombers rather than long range missiles though, so we may still be able to avoid nukes in space god willing)

Communist Zombie
Nov 1, 2011

NewMars posted:

The Comintern Statement of Condemnation towards False Treaties and Dismantlement of Economic Imperialism Act

The Haitian Federation of Communes (FCA) also seconds this act! An injustice forgiven does not mean it has been righted. Until true justice and restitution has been achieved then it will lay there, even if just below the surface.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
My third and final bill: Establishment of the Ministry of Agriculture Act

This act will establish a new ministry, formed from departments of the economic ministry and environmental ministry.

This ministry will operate according to four precepts, in order of general importance.

1. The securing of the food supply for the Comintern and humanity as a whole.

I should not need to go into why this one is important.

2. The creation of and transition to ecologically non-damaging methods of food cultivation.

We have a single world, already much damaged. According to many emerging economic and agricultural theories, much of our current agricultural base is heavily damaging to the environment and ultimately unsustainable. Therefore, we should move towards methods that do not damage, perhaps even enhance the environment. Incidentally, this is probably a prerequisite anyway: our space expansion efforts will require the ability to cultivate in the void and any attempts at terraforming will likely require these methods to be at all viable.

3. The securing of food sovereignty for each member of the Comintern.

We are no capitalists: no nation should ever be in a position of dependency, forced to sell cash crops to survive. Nor should they be forced into the position of a breadbasket for others for the same. No nation should fear famine.

4. Research into urban greening and urban gardening/farming.

Marx has told us of the necessity to bridge the urban-rural divide and with new technology and methods we can, should and must do this. And, if each nation may become secure in their food, perhaps each municipality can? It is a pipe dream, but who knows what the future holds?

Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth

NewMars posted:

My third and final bill: Establishment of the Ministry of Agriculture Act

This act will establish a new ministry, formed from departments of the economic ministry and environmental ministry.

This ministry will operate according to four precepts, in order of general importance.

1. The securing of the food supply for the Comintern and humanity as a whole.

I should not need to go into why this one is important.

2. The creation of and transition to ecologically non-damaging methods of food cultivation.

We have a single world, already much damaged. According to many emerging economic and agricultural theories, much of our current agricultural base is heavily damaging to the environment and ultimately unsustainable. Therefore, we should move towards methods that do not damage, perhaps even enhance the environment. Incidentally, this is probably a prerequisite anyway: our space expansion efforts will require the ability to cultivate in the void and any attempts at terraforming will likely require these methods to be at all viable.

3. The securing of food sovereignty for each member of the Comintern.

We are no capitalists: no nation should ever be in a position of dependency, forced to sell cash crops to survive. Nor should they be forced into the position of a breadbasket for others for the same. No nation should fear famine.

4. Research into urban greening and urban gardening/farming.

Marx has told us of the necessity to bridge the urban-rural divide and with new technology and methods we can, should and must do this. And, if each nation may become secure in their food, perhaps each municipality can? It is a pipe dream, but who knows what the future holds?

Seconded.

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



sebmojo posted:

what's the current status of our in-system exploration efforts? and with the new engines/scanners could we design and build a cheap, long range exploration ship to investigate further out?

Pending positive answers to those questions, I'm proposing a bill to fund and implement the Krusenstern Initiative, a systematic survey of all the major bodies in the solar system.

The Karzeleks have already geosurveed every body in the Solar System out to Neptune. Beyond that is stuff so distant the travel times get excessive and everything is remote and frankly, spooky. Minerva is a 14-month round trip for the Karzeleks, and we can only geosurvey it, no other sensors.

To that end, I propose the drafting of designs for the next generation of Deep Space exploratory craft for a detailed survey of the Far Outer Solar System. A nice oppurtunity to work with our fancy next-gen nuclear thermal engines, all carrying geosurvey equipment, EM scanners, and a proving ground of these new-fangled active grav sensors we just got working. Let's clear the last few "Here Be Monsters" bits off the map.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013

Asterite34 posted:

The Karzeleks have already geosurveed every body in the Solar System out to Neptune. Beyond that is stuff so distant the travel times get excessive and everything is remote and frankly, spooky. Minerva is a 14-month round trip for the Karzeleks, and we can only geosurvey it, no other sensors.

To that end, I propose the drafting of designs for the next generation of Deep Space exploratory craft for a detailed survey of the Far Outer Solar System. A nice oppurtunity to work with our fancy next-gen nuclear thermal engines, all carrying geosurvey equipment, EM scanners, and a proving ground of these new-fangled active grav sensors we just got working. Let's clear the last few "Here Be Monsters" bits off the map.

Seconded.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Asterite34 posted:

The Karzeleks have already geosurveed every body in the Solar System out to Neptune. Beyond that is stuff so distant the travel times get excessive and everything is remote and frankly, spooky. Minerva is a 14-month round trip for the Karzeleks, and we can only geosurvey it, no other sensors.

To that end, I propose the drafting of designs for the next generation of Deep Space exploratory craft for a detailed survey of the Far Outer Solar System. A nice oppurtunity to work with our fancy next-gen nuclear thermal engines, all carrying geosurvey equipment, EM scanners, and a proving ground of these new-fangled active grav sensors we just got working. Let's clear the last few "Here Be Monsters" bits off the map.

I suggest this be added to the krusenstern initiative, as that's essentially what it was proposing: make exploration ships and send them out.

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



Agreed. It's Minerva Or Bust!

(plus Pluto and the other Kuiper Belt weirdos I guess, but we can backfill those a bit)

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

The People's Republic of California proposes the following:

California-Commintern Port Provision

California's naval bases shall be made available for all Commintern ships to refuel, resupply, undergo repairs, and provide shore leave.

Maritime Aid Act

National navies shall be required to provide reasonable aid to Commintern naval forces at request.

Computer Character Encoding Act

Current computers use a standard set of characters from the latin alphabet, with hacks providing characters outside that set, each hack incompatible with each other. A group shall be created to devise a system that can represent all characters that is backwards-compatible with ASCII and can be extended as needed. Once created, all new computer systems shall use this encoding system. Older systems are not mandated to by updated, but should be done so if feasible to ease communication with newer systems.
(so basically creating UTF-8 a five years early and getting it well adopted much much sooner)

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013

idhrendur posted:

The People's Republic of California proposes the following:

California-Commintern Port Provision

California's naval bases shall be made available for all Commintern ships to refuel, resupply, undergo repairs, and provide shore leave.

Maritime Aid Act

National navies shall be required to provide reasonable aid to Commintern naval forces at request.

Computer Character Encoding Act

Current computers use a standard set of characters from the latin alphabet, with hacks providing characters outside that set, each hack incompatible with each other. A group shall be created to devise a system that can represent all characters that is backwards-compatible with ASCII and can be extended as needed. Once created, all new computer systems shall use this encoding system. Older systems are not mandated to by updated, but should be done so if feasible to ease communication with newer systems.
(so basically creating UTF-8 a five years early and getting it well adopted much much sooner)

Seconded.

Kodos666
Dec 17, 2013
Minor bodies Survey and Utilization Act

We currently have the technological means to extract precious TNE-minerals from the minor bodies of our Solar system. I propose the design and construction of a testbed for asteroid mining, capable of independently surveying and mining objects in the asteroid belt and having sufficient endurance for longer mining-expeditions. This would supplement the Krusenstern Initiative by shouldering a part of the workload and will yield important minerals on the side as well as allowing us to gain proficiency with industrial processes in deep space.

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



Kodos666 posted:

Minor bodies Survey and Utilization Act

We currently have the technological means to extract precious TNE-minerals from the minor bodies of our Solar system. I propose the design and construction of a testbed for asteroid mining, capable of independently surveying and mining objects in the asteroid belt and having sufficient endurance for longer mining-expeditions. This would supplement the Krusenstern Initiative by shouldering a part of the workload and will yield important minerals on the side as well as allowing us to gain proficiency with industrial processes in deep space.

Seconded

Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth
Gravitic Technology Development Act
This act formalizes that gravity-manipulating technology should be pursued for use in creating spacecraft, vehicles and structures, with an immediate preference towards creating structures without the problems associated with life in microgravity and zero-gravity.

VideoWitch
Oct 9, 2012

Mycroft Holmes posted:

Gravitic Technology Development Act
This act formalizes that gravity-manipulating technology should be pursued for use in creating spacecraft, vehicles and structures, with an immediate preference towards creating structures without the problems associated with life in microgravity and zero-gravity.

Seconded

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

The Safe Skies Act proposes that weapons be forbidden from being placed in space, with an exception for small numbers of handheld devices for police work. These horrible 'railguns' will not sit in orbit to menace the nations below, nor will there be a new colonialism with space-gunboats imposing terms on independant habitats.

The Lone Badger fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Dec 3, 2021

Communist Zombie
Nov 1, 2011

The Lone Badger posted:

The Safe Skies Act proposes that weapons be forbidden from being placed in space, with an exception for small numbers of handheld devices for police work. These horrible 'railguns' will not sit in orbit to menace the nations below, nor will there be a new colonialism with space-gunboats imposing terms on independant habitats.

The FCA seconds this act!

//We gotta add a little challenge or hubris to this afterall

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
People's Army Expansion and Re-Organization Act

The People's Army shall have a Supreme Command, responsible for all functions, answerable to a standing committee of the People's Congress and any civilian oversight it may wish to appoint.

The People's Army shall be expanded to and organized as follows:

Global Headquarters and General Staff: Proposed location of Havana, Cuba

Global HQ shall contain Army supreme command staff, and shall host all units not described below, of generally non-combat functions. It shall directly command whole units responsible for the following: procurement, training, global logistics, relations and liaison with member governments and other Comintern bodies, intelligence, public relations, war planning, cybersyn interaction and integration, and testing of equipment and doctrine. Global HQ is to consist of not less than 1,000 persons.

Special Battalions and Operations Command: Stationed at Global HQ, this unit shall administratively handle and support comintern military units and missions whose existence precede this bill, and any additional such units that the People's Congress may require.

The main body of the Army shall be its Divisions, of 30,000 persons each, to be organized as the following general template. This template may be deviated from by authorization of the standing committee or its deputies.

-Divisional HQ- containing divisional command staff, and companies responsible for signals and intelligence, procurement, and public relations

--Divisional Artillery- to contain large guns fired in 4 mass batteries a battalion in size

--Divisional Air- to contain jet fighters, bombers, and transport craft to support divisional operations

--Divisional Logistics battalion- responsible for supporting Divisional HQ, Artillery, and Air

--3 brigades of 6,000 to 8,000 persons each. These brigades should be capable of operating independently away from the division if needed.

---Proposals for precise TO&E of the brigades should be fielded comintern wide with best approach adopted on a divisional basis, but should include templates for infantry and armor focused brigades and have their own air and field artillery

There shall be 7 divisions, marked by number.

Division 1 shall be primarily stationed and operate in Europe: proposed specialties of arctic warfare, mountain warfare, proposed HQ of Munich, Germany

Division 2 shall be primarily stationed and operate in Africa: proposed specialties of jungle warfare, savanna warfare, proposed HQ of Accra, Ghana

Division 3 shall be primarily stationed and operate in West Asia: proposed specialties of desert warfare, mountain warfare, proposed HQ of Sana'a Yemen

Division 4 shall be primarily stationed and operate in East Asia: proposed specialties of jungle warfare, mountain warfare, proposed HQ of Hanoi, Vietnam

Division 5 shall be primarily stationed and operate in Oceania: proposed specialty of amphibious operations, proposed HQ of Jakarta, Indonesia

Division 6 shall be primarily stationed and operate in North America: proposed specialty of mountain warfare, proposed HQ of Atlanta

Division 7 shall be primarily stationed and operate in South America: proposed specialties of jungle warfare, mountain warfare, proposed HQ of La Paz, Bolivia.

VideoWitch
Oct 9, 2012

paragon1 posted:

People's Army Expansion and Re-Organization Act

Seconded

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



The Lone Badger posted:

The Safe Skies Act proposes that weapons be forbidden from being placed in space, with an exception for small numbers of handheld devices for police work. These horrible 'railguns' will not sit in orbit to menace the nations below, nor will there be a new colonialism with space-gunboats imposing terms on independant habitats.


Mister Bates posted:


Orders of the day:

- You have all the technology to design and build an armed spacecraft, and a legislative mandate to do so this year.


Well, I mean, we kinda should have at least one, ya know?

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Asterite34 posted:

Well, I mean, we kinda should have at least one, ya know?

Technically the safe skies act doesn't forbid designing an armed spacecraft, or technically even building one groundside as long as it never leaves atmosphere.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

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The Lone Badger posted:

The Safe Skies Act proposes that weapons be forbidden from being placed in space, with an exception for small numbers of handheld devices for police work. These horrible 'railguns' will not sit in orbit to menace the nations below, nor will there be a new colonialism with space-gunboats imposing terms on independant habitats.

gesticulates wildly in the general direction of the Roswell spacecraft

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Armed Spacecraft Proposal

Comrades, I propose the following:



OOC: Credit to Demiurge for the design, I don't know anything about making ships in Aurora 4x but we need something.

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



The Lone Badger posted:

Technically the safe skies act doesn't forbid designing an armed spacecraft, or technically even building one groundside as long as it never leaves atmosphere.

I propose a compromise:

We can design them, we can build them, but they will not be deployed UNLESS war is declared on us, where they will be used in defensive actions. They will be mothballed and only brought out if aliens or Space Capitalists start poo poo first. Deal?

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Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

paragon1 posted:

Armed Spacecraft Proposal

Comrades, I propose the following:



OOC: Credit to Demiurge for the design, I don't know anything about making ships in Aurora 4x but we need something.

I commented on this before but that design needs maintenance storage bays or its going to jam like a motherfucker and make the fighters useless.

Also OP mentioned they are not currently using the version that allows for that specific railgun type.

For old time auroura players/readers the newer version introduced what was essentially a weapon jam or misfire roll each time the weapon fires, if you have maintenance supply points (MSP) then a very small amount of them get deducted and the weapon fires like normally. If you don't the weapon flat out breaks and needs to be repaired before it can be fired.

This is an issue with fighters because at 5 second firing increments they are going to be making a lot of those rolls and each fighter that fails is now combat ineffective and only good for being a meat shield.

Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Dec 3, 2021

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