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As long as Arena doesn't magically ruin Modern years down the road, whatever. It has allowed me to play any Standard deck I like for free, so it has served it's purpose to me. I have the feeling, that they are going to continue treating Modern as a separate entity from Arena. Modern will be how they move paper product to spikes, and Commander will be how they move paper to casuals.
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Sinteres posted:I get why existing historic players who don't want to play with Alchemy want that, but as someone who's been patiently waiting for Pioneer I'd be pissed. I haven't been the one spending though, so if they put the concerns of people who have ahead of mine, I can hardly blame them. It just seems to defeat the purpose of having a format that corresponds with paper. I get this too. For me, historic has just been a really good constructed format and I’m sad to see it go. I hope we both get something good : )
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flatluigi posted:i think there's zero chance of them changing pioneer legality I don’t think anything is 0 chance on arena anymore
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I'm going to give alchemy a small chance to see how much it fucks up historic, if it sucks then I'll quit arena and rely on you guys to tell me when they've finally introduced pioneer.
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Time posted:I don’t think anything is 0 chance on arena anymore Finally Chandra and Nissa are going to kiss
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Despite what the disclaimer says, I believe that alchemy is trying to replace standard.
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I think this sounds like a fun Other Mode-I just wish it wasn’t tied to the easiest eternal format to play regularly
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Sickening posted:Despite what the disclaimer says, I believe that alchemy is trying to replace standard. I think there's a 0% chance they aren't hoping to get away with that down the line. At the very least, if/when there's an actual Arena replacement (or successor--we still have MODO despite Arena existing), I bet it won't have Standard at all.
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i don't play arena just due to having magic already take up a lot of time playing it with paper. i have no issues with them adding new cards for historic but doing this by modifying a card that exists on paper is a really weird thing to do. to me, i only really see two reasons to do this. 1: so they don't have to give people replacements if a card gets banned, and 2: less need to playtest cards over a couple of years. just release it and fix it in post. none of this is good for either paper or arena players. just feels like them mucking up the balance of cards... will just make them err on the side of maximizing their profits over actual balancing of the game. and having two cards with the same name doing different things sounds kinda antithetical to the whole concept of the name of a card being wholly unique. now its only unique if you consider one half of the MTG world.. wish they would just do the banning and release the card under a new name, like Omnath's cousin or something...
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Time posted:I think this sounds like a fun Other Mode-I just wish it wasn’t tied to the easiest eternal format to play regularly Same. If they just let the new cards be historic legal and didn’t do the rebalancing for historic I think it would be fine
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Dec 3, 2021 02:11
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Ya why are folks talking about historic with this??? Regardless it is dumb very dumb
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Commander on Arena would require Cumulative Upkeep on Arena. Dare you?
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Jabor posted:Someone please talk me out of going back to modo. Why? It has an actual economy
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Strong Sauce posted:
This doesn't sound like Hasbro/WotC at all
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Jabor posted:Someone please talk me out of going back to modo. boot up modo and look at the interface
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This is so, so very confusing lol
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I’ve been watching a lot of people play modern on MODO and the interface is ugly as sin
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flatluigi posted:boot up modo and look at the interface Also be sure to reactivate your tiered ManaTraders subscription so you can borrow cards.
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NEW FEATURE: Every time you lose a match on arena, MaRo will fly to your house and kick you in the balls/vagina
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Goodbye Standard https://twitter.com/mtg_lee/status/1466555921354477572?s=20
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Pablo Nergigante posted:NEW FEATURE: Every time you lose a match on arena, MaRo will fly to your house and kick you in the balls/vagina I'm pulling into your driveway! You know what that means! It's time for another kick in the nads!
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Sickening posted:Despite what the disclaimer says, I believe that alchemy is trying to replace standard. I can see it. If you are bored of solved standard here's a tweaked version of standard, and you get a new version every 4-6 weeks. I hate the historic changes, but its probably going to be pretty successful.
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I think they’ll end up sliding fixed cards in permanently this way. Gonna be pretty hard for them to not do flashback drafts or current drafts with the changed versions and once you only start offering that then it becomes the norm. Dry run with the historic digital cards
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i wrote this as a joke a couple pages ago: Strong Sauce posted:"yo sorry we created a 5/5 creature costing 2 mana that wins you the game if you can cast it first (because it can't be countered) in our most recent paper release, we are not planning to do anything about it. also we like to announce we got rid of it in your alchemy version of the set release so if you want to play that.. well its right there on arena" now it seems like if customers reject alchemy they're just going to gently caress up standard/paper sets and then fix them for alchemy. so now you either play alchemy or have to deal with stupid cards we didn't balance. oh now those new cards are loving up modern? well ... "announcing alchemy modern on MTGO!"
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I’d be fine with historic brawl being the “commander” format if it was actually multiplayer
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Strong Sauce posted:i wrote this as a joke a couple pages ago: i think 'they're going to intentionally make cards bad in paper to make people play alchemy on arena' is a real big reach and i don't understand why you're going that hard on it in response for them running two events on arena for their new arena format
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:I’d be fine with historic brawl being the “commander” format if it was actually multiplayer I'd be fine with it if it had Arahbo to use with the 3 (!!!) surprisingly good digital only cats.
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uggy posted:Ya why are folks talking about historic with this??? I pretty much only play historic and think the changes are very stupid for historic. Of the changed cards the only 3 that I've see get played are epiphany, haven, and aspirant. The haven change is a pretty big change, but its still going to get played because its still the best man land in tribal decks and mono color decks that can use a snow mana base. And right now I don't know if aspirant is going to get played, I'd have to look and see if a different two drop human can fit the curve, but that's a really big nerf. Epiphany probably still sees play because you still take the extra turn. Making goldspan worse wont let it see play in historic, and I've never seen it cast outside of brawl in historic. The cards that got buffs aren't strong enough for the historic meta as it is, and this wont change that.
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Bugsy posted:I pretty much only play historic and think the changes are very stupid for historic. Of the changed cards the only 3 that I've see get played are epiphany, haven, and aspirant. The haven change is a pretty big change, but its still going to get played because its still the best man land in tribal decks and mono color decks that can use a snow mana base. And right now I don't know if aspirant is going to get played, I'd have to look and see if a different two drop human can fit the curve, but that's a really big nerf. Epiphany probably still sees play because you still take the extra turn. Making goldspan worse wont let it see play in historic, and I've never seen it cast outside of brawl in historic. It's not affecting historic
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uggy posted:It's not affecting historic Yes it is
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Yes it is Hmmm I'm missing that in the article, i'm dumb edit: read the other article talking about it, drat they really tried to kinda bury that and oooooooofffff that's truly awful uggy fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Dec 3, 2021 |
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Going around to twitter and reddit, I can't find a single person who's into this. I haven't seen the Magic community brought together like this in a while. When was the last time, Historic requiring 2 wildcards? Walking Dead secret lair?
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Fish Of Doom posted:Going around to twitter and reddit, I can't find a single person who's into this. I haven't seen the Magic community brought together like this in a while. When was the last time, Historic requiring 2 wildcards? Walking Dead secret lair? literally every time there's a change people blow the gently caress up on twitter and reddit about it, and sometimes even when nothing's changed edit: like, i can't remember the last time i remember anything's happened in or around magic the gathering that didn't have some people absolutely livid flatluigi fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Dec 3, 2021 |
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flatluigi posted:literally every time there's a change people blow the gently caress up on twitter and reddit about it, and sometimes even when nothing's changed lol come on
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uggy posted:lol come on like realtalk: i'm interested in seeing how this goes b/c i'm so bored of standard these days that switching things up might help, and i'm priced out of playing paper magic so not playing arena means not playing magic. i, personally, don't think this is the massive fuckup a lot of people are treating it as but i don't care enough about the game or wizards of the coast to ardently defend it, especially in places where doing so puts a big target on my back. i don't touch the reddit or twitter magic communities for a reason
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flatluigi posted:literally every time there's a change people blow the gently caress up on twitter and reddit about it, and sometimes even when nothing's changed Maybe it's because WOTC keeps doing bad things in the pursuit of short term profits, drat the consequences?
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