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ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

A Russian troll farm posted:

My extensive training in Workers and Resources: Soviet Republic has taught me that only nuclear power plant workers should have personal automobiles, in order to prevent a single railway traffic jam from causing power outages that ultimately destroy the entire country

:hmmyes: sage advice. i'm writing that down.

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Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA
https://twitter.com/NimbyPatrol/status/1466519173643730946?t=mevGnvD_TSq6SAuCaMwqmg&s=19

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T85owXwvUAY

cool av
Mar 2, 2013

am i going crazy or are a bunch of people itt explaining to each other what crosswalks are and posting pictures of them and talking about how they've seen them before?????

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

cool av posted:

am i going crazy or are a bunch of people itt explaining to each other what crosswalks are and posting pictures of them and talking about how they've seen them before?????

Usually cross walks are at an intersection not in the middle of a stretch of road with signs hidden by trees etc. There is also the arguement that when driving a yellow light means "slow down" whereas a red light means "stop." So an intersection that lights up in the middle of the road doesn't at first glance look like a crosswalk and most drivers will simply slow down as they run over the cross walk. This isn't desirable. So it makes more sense for the pedestrian crossing lights to be red, and look like a traditional stop light.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

also the fact that yellow 100% does not mean "slow down"

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica
you see a crosswalk i see a warzone

Sphyre
Jun 14, 2001

i don't thank drivers who stop for me at zebra crossings. sphyre... welcome to the freaking war on cars

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Usually cross walks are at an intersection not in the middle of a stretch of road with signs hidden by trees etc. There is also the arguement that when driving a yellow light means "slow down" whereas a red light means "stop." So an intersection that lights up in the middle of the road doesn't at first glance look like a crosswalk and most drivers will simply slow down as they run over the cross walk. This isn't desirable. So it makes more sense for the pedestrian crossing lights to be red, and look like a traditional stop light.

I think this is 100% an American thing. Ped crossings not near junctions and pedestrians having priority at crossings are just totally normal things everywhere I've been

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



Cspam is 90% Americans and if you avoid them its a nicer place.

Wolfy
Jul 13, 2009

Yeah pedestrians have “priority” in America too but drivers just don’t loving feel like stopping for anything. So we try various flavors of flashy things to try and get their attention. Then we go on the internet and talk about which flashy things make us feel least likely to be a hood ornament on Connor’s brodozer 250.

Walking in an American city really is something.

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007


this all seems complicated and banning cars would be much easier

Electro-Boogie Jack
Nov 22, 2006
bagger mcguirk sent me.

HAIL eSATA-n posted:

this all seems complicated and banning cars would be much easier

if you outlaw cars, only outlaws will have cars. much better to destroy them all

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

priced this baby out to max, includes get out of jail free card for first fifty murders

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Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

actionjackson posted:

priced this baby out to max, includes get out of jail free card for first fifty murders


Truly, the working man's chariot.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

actionjackson posted:

priced this baby out to max, includes get out of jail free card for first fifty murders



I've found that when I'm doing my daily drag races down the school zone that it's much more econimical to sign up for the "stay on the road service." In absolutely numbers you only get 2 vehicular murders a week (But also one flexible road rage freebie), but since it's all wireless the police don't even stop you they just scan your plate. Plus if you do exceed the quota by running over a line of school children or something, your murder quota will rollover into the next week with no limit.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

the target market is cops and firefighters making 300k a year just in OT pay

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Gabagool posted:

If I don't hit the button at my busy street I get like 10 seconds to cross. Gotta make sure to hit it after I cross just to make sure all the drivers get an extra 20 seconds of mild inconvenience (carbrain suffering).

:sickos:

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008


actionjackson posted:

priced this baby out to max, includes get out of jail free card for first fifty murders



god bless America

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Gabagool posted:

If I don't hit the button at my busy street I get like 10 seconds to cross. Gotta make sure to hit it after I cross just to make sure all the drivers get an extra 20 seconds of mild inconvenience (carbrain suffering).

:hai: this is the way

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,
I’ve been rethinking the whole speed camera thing and I think the issue is with the existing ones just being speed traps. ubiquitous speed cameras that actually cause traffic to slow down overall would be good, but the issue is that such a thing is so far out of the status quo, even one where there are speed traps already, that it is no more likely to happen than redesigning roads. there’s an equilibrium where people hate speed traps but they make enough money for it to be worthwhile for politicians. going past that equilibrium would require the same political will as explicit anti-car measures. so it’s tantalizing to think such a thing is possible because it seems so similar to what already exists, but I don’t think that it really is. or maybe I’m wrong

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,
teaching my daughter to stay out of the streets and now thinking of how crazy it is that everyone’s home is ringed on all sides by KILL ZONES and if your kid dies in the kill zone it’s your fault and frankly you should feel sympathy for the innocent driver who has to have child murder on their conscience (and maybe pay a fine too)

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


eSports Chaebol posted:

I’ve been rethinking the whole speed camera thing and I think the issue is with the existing ones just being speed traps. ubiquitous speed cameras that actually cause traffic to slow down overall would be good, but the issue is that such a thing is so far out of the status quo, even one where there are speed traps already, that it is no more likely to happen than redesigning roads. there’s an equilibrium where people hate speed traps but they make enough money for it to be worthwhile for politicians. going past that equilibrium would require the same political will as explicit anti-car measures. so it’s tantalizing to think such a thing is possible because it seems so similar to what already exists, but I don’t think that it really is. or maybe I’m wrong

i agree, to be most useful the chance of getting caught needs to be very high, then the fines can be low and people won't speed anyway. But as you say that's out of reach


in the UK unless you were going way over the limit you don't pay a fine or get points for your first offense if you go to a speed awareness session, which seems like a good idea (if only because it uses your time rather than money)

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

eSports Chaebol posted:

teaching my daughter to stay out of the streets and now thinking of how crazy it is that everyone’s home is ringed on all sides by KILL ZONES and if your kid dies in the kill zone it’s your fault and frankly you should feel sympathy for the innocent driver who has to have child murder on their conscience (and maybe pay a fine too)
Lot of old folks hating on kids these days for sitting in front of the tv and computer instead of riding bikes around town, despite their having directly contributed to creating a built environment that not only has nowhere interesting within a reasonable distance, but is also full of ten-ton murder boxes controlled by people who think that hundreds of dead kids a year is an acceptable price to pay for not being inconvenienced.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

cool av posted:

am i going crazy or are a bunch of people itt explaining to each other what crosswalks are and posting pictures of them and talking about how they've seen them before?????

The trolley problem for Americans. While driving your car come across some pedestrians crossing the road at a crosswalk. You have two options:

A: Speed up and run down the pedestrians.
B: Stop the car and shoot the pedestrians with your gun.

What do you do?

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008


biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008


NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

The trolley problem for Americans. While driving your car come across some pedestrians crossing the road at a crosswalk. You have two options:

A: Speed up and run down the pedestrians.
B: Stop the car and shoot the pedestrians with your gun.

What do you do?

I run them over with my King Ranch, no question. Option b requires me to stop my truck

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo
a woman nearly hit me on my bike on a shared bike/pedestrian path yesterday because she just pulled out of a carpark across the footpath while only looking looking to the right at oncoming cars on the road

if it had been a kid running along i don't even think she would have seen them

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007


drivers only ever look for car because why would a person use infrastructure made for car

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
https://twitter.com/Senn_Spud/status/1465788655302164480

Mr. Sharps
Jul 30, 2006

The only true law is that which leads to freedom. There is no other.



El Pollo Blanco posted:

a woman nearly hit me on my bike on a shared bike/pedestrian path yesterday because she just pulled out of a carpark across the footpath while only looking looking to the right at oncoming cars on the road

if it had been a kid running along i don't even think she would have seen them

just do a sick butt slide over the hood. might be tricky if it’s one of the cars with a 5 foot high front grill so maybe practice your box jumps first

cool av
Mar 2, 2013

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

The trolley problem for Americans. While driving your car come across some pedestrians crossing the road at a crosswalk. You have two options:

A: Speed up and run down the pedestrians.
B: Stop the car and shoot the pedestrians with your gun.

What do you do?

B then A

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

HAIL eSATA-n posted:

drivers only ever look for car because why would a person use infrastructure made for car
Pro-tip: if you ever ever come across a trail/car intersection where someone's put up stop signs facing the trail instead of the cars, either turn that poo poo the correct way or knock it the gently caress down.

Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars


Plaster Town Cop
everything about car is so wrong i don't understand how people can look at it and think "yeah, this is a good idea".

widening the freeway (again, 3rd time in the last 20 years) so more cars can park on it and it only takes an enormous expansion of the RoW but that's ok because it was routed through traditionally black neighborhoods to begin with so it's not like anyone who matters is inconvenienced by having their house torn down for car

oh hmmm i'm starting to get an idea of why car is so popular in america

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012




hello mods please make this my avatar somehow please

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica

Harik posted:

everything about car is so wrong i don't understand how people can look at it and think "yeah, this is a good idea".

widening the freeway (again, 3rd time in the last 20 years) so more cars can park on it and it only takes an enormous expansion of the RoW but that's ok because it was routed through traditionally black neighborhoods to begin with so it's not like anyone who matters is inconvenienced by having their house torn down for car

oh hmmm i'm starting to get an idea of why car is so popular in america

our bike paths have some of these, is there a good way to twist a stopsign around? seems like you could stick a bar through one of the holes on the post to get leverage and really bend it to face the road

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
If you want to get yourself worked up about how bad roads are for neighborhoods then check this out:

http://iqc.ou.edu/urbanchange

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vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

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