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Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


temple posted:

its in god's hands. previously, linux, but now god.


teen witch posted:

I feel weird changing the thread title to include this, but god this is a wee gem


please do it

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Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

teen witch posted:

I feel weird changing the thread title to include this, but god this is a wee gem

This is perfect title, I would change it if I could

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




BrigadierSensible posted:

People are talking about his demeanour/body language/facial expressions etc.

I see it as a symptom of his abusive "blanket training". He has been trained to stand still, smile, don't make a fuss, stand up straight, do what you're told, look happy, don't whine, shut up, stop fidgeting, etc. for his whole life. It is all he knows how to do.

So now he has been busted, it is all he can do, stand still with his stupid "if I am happy then Jesus loves me" half smile on his face. Not realizing, (or possibly even caring), how it looks to normal people.

Also as a second possibly related point, due to the fundie upbringing I doubt he has any remorse about what he has done, or sympathy for the victims. If he feels bad, IF, then it would only be because he has "sinned". But so long as you say sorry to big old Jebus in the sky, then everything will be OK. Or at least that's how he, and his hosed up church sees it.

This is not defending the paedo abuser. gently caress him and may he receive justice for the lives of the women and children he has hurt. Just offering an explanation as to why he looks and acts the wayhe does.

That’s the only way I can make sense of his and the family’s reactions in the courtroom.

Like, there’s no way that his lawyer never had a sit down with him any time before the trial and explained exactly how hosed he likely is, right?

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Josh Lawyer



Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Binary Badger posted:

When Josh was found to have molested his sisters in 2002, Jim Bob sent him to some re-education program that consisted of 'hard work' and counseling.

When he finished the program in 2003, he met with Jim Bob, an Springfield, Arkansas state trooper named Hutchins who was a friend of Jim Bob's, and a bunch of church elders.

Hutchins gave Josh 'a very stern talk' but did jack poo poo in an official capacity.

Thus, Josh probably figures much the same will happen this time after the trial.

No one else would have learned of the molestation except that a family friend jotted down a detailed synopsis of the molestation in a letter, and then shoved it into a book. That book was lent out to some unknown person who found the letter and gave it to the Springfield Police.

Authorities then interviewed some of the alleged victims in December 2006 and found some truth to the matter and even question Jim Bob and wife, but then decide, whoops, the statute of limitations has already run out and drop the matter.

you forgot hitchens was caught with a gently caress ton of CP too and is went to jail forever basically. my guess is the pig taught him how to "hide" it.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:
Omg his lawyer was actually a federal prosecutor how could he not convince Josh to actually take a deal, he had to have known the case was a slam dunk

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

B-Rock452 posted:

Omg his lawyer was actually a federal prosecutor how could he not convince Josh to actually take a deal, he had to have known the case was a slam dunk

iirc the dude's profile on his professional website brags about how he gets sex offenders off (no pun intended) so like... i dunno man

Oh right here's what he's bragging about :

quote:

Won acquittal of all of the most serious counts—those carrying mandatory minimums of decades in prison and maximums of life—in a federal sex trafficking jury trial in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri; in a pleading, the federal prosecutor claimed her star witness “was mercilessly questioned by defense counsel [Justin Gelfand].”

Won complete acquittal in a Missouri sex crimes jury trial.

Persuaded Missouri prosecutors not to prosecute a juvenile accused of a sex crime.

Persuaded Missouri prosecutors not to prosecute a man accused of a sex crime against a child.

I agree that all people, regardless of the charges, deserve competent counsel to defend charges against them. But I don't particularly like counsel who brags about stuff like this

Seth Pecksniff fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Dec 3, 2021

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

B-Rock452 posted:

Omg his lawyer was actually a federal prosecutor how could he not convince Josh to actually take a deal, he had to have known the case was a slam dunk

Would Jim Bob let him take a plea deal?

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Dapper_Swindler posted:

you forgot hitchens was caught with a gently caress ton of CP too and is went to jail forever basically. my guess is the pig taught him how to "hide" it.

Yeah well I'm not trying to get too deep into some of this.. according to various articles he went to jail for 3 years, was released, was found to be doing CSAM again, and was put away for 56 years AFTER the first arrest.

quote:

In January 2007, Hutchens pleaded guilty to eight felony counts of possessing visual or print medium depicting sexually explicit conduct involving a child, and was jailed for five years.

The disgraced state trooper spent three years in prison, before being released in 2010.

But shortly after his release, he was arrested again and charged with four counts of distribution, possession or viewing of sexually explicit material involving a child, according to Radar Online.

In May 2012, he was sentenced to 56 years in prison.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!

temple posted:

its in god's hands. previously, linux, but now god.

Clearly he should have used Bleach on his bits so just like Clinton, destroy the bits so throughly that not even god could read them.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

You are right

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

A plea deal is an admission of guilt. = Josh is a bad person. Therefore unacceptable.

Josh being found guilty and rotting in prison = The godless Liberal system is against us and always has been. Boo Hoo poor us. Therefore more donations to whatever grift they move on to now the TV money is drying up.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


You would THINK that nobody but TLC would touch them again, and with this trial its doubtful anyone will want to do a TV show starring a Duggar, but I remember thinking this after the molestation news back in 2015, and then lo and behold, Counting On showed up and went 10 seasons with Josh slowly being reintroduced to TLC viewers towards the end.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

Binary Badger posted:

You would THINK that nobody but TLC would touch them again, and with this trial its doubtful anyone will want to do a TV show starring a Duggar, but I remember thinking this after the molestation news back in 2015, and then lo and behold, Counting On showed up and went 10 seasons with Josh slowly being reintroduced to TLC viewers towards the end.

Yeah real talk what IS going on with TLC? like their track record is damning, and not just with this show

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:

Seth Pecksniff posted:

iirc the dude's profile on his professional website brags about how he gets sex offenders off (no pun intended) so like... i dunno man

Oh right here's what he's bragging about :

I agree that all people, regardless of the charges, deserve competent counsel to defend charges against them. But I don't particularly like counsel who brags about stuff like this

For what it's worth sex crimes like that are pretty hard to try (especially since this country is awful and we love blaming women for being raped and trafficked) but unless his defense consists of a series of surprise witnesses all admitting to downloading child porn this isn't a fight he has a chance of winning. (outside of the jury consisting of quiverfull members)

Fucking Moron
Jan 9, 2009

Has anyone asked what professional pedophile supporter and animal abuse caregiver Mike Huckabee has to say about any of this?

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

teen witch posted:

Yeah real talk what IS going on with TLC? like their track record is damning, and not just with this show

The kind of crazy/neglectful/aggressive people that create the sort of Drama that is good TV, also often involves far more serious issues.

But the one gives the TV network ratings and money, and the other can be handwaved away/brushed under the carpet. So YAY for the cultural landscape, I guess.

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

teen witch posted:

Yeah real talk what IS going on with TLC? like their track record is damning, and not just with this show

They're evil and people can't get enough of it.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

loving Moron posted:

Has anyone asked what professional pedophile supporter and animal abuse caregiver Mike Huckabee has to say about any of this?



https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/josh-duggar-mike-huckabee-defends-19-kids-counting/story?id=31236959

:ssh: It's real, but from a few years back, and was about the other incident, the one with all the molesting of the sisters.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Powered Descent posted:



https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/josh-duggar-mike-huckabee-defends-19-kids-counting/story?id=31236959

:ssh: It's real, but from a few years back, and was about the other incident, the one with all the molesting of the sisters.

poo poo like this always gives me jibblies about that ghoul. i dont think its that level but didnt his kid bludgion a dog to death.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

B-Rock452 posted:

For what it's worth sex crimes like that are pretty hard to try (especially since this country is awful and we love blaming women for being raped and trafficked) but unless his defense consists of a series of surprise witnesses all admitting to downloading child porn this isn't a fight he has a chance of winning. (outside of the jury consisting of quiverfull members)

i wouldnt be shocked if the community just wants to put the fucker away at this point so all the eyes go away from them.

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib
The thing about these people is that their morality is completely black and white. All sexual contact outside of godly heterosexual marriage is equally sinful. Kissing someone other than your spouse is the same as what Josh has done. There's no nuance.

As for the money--all of it went to Jim Bob. Jill, the eldest daughter, split from the rest of her family when her husband Derrick (who was in law school at the time I believe) convinced her to request her share.

Their cult doesn't believe women should have jobs other than maybe being a midwife , so all of the Duggar daughters and granddaughters will never be expected to make money. They also believe that men should never be subservient to women in any way, which prevents them from working most "secular" jobs since they might be expected to have female supervisors. They tend to be "entrepreneurs" who work for themselves/Jim Bob doing stuff like selling cars or flipping houses or become pastors themselves. Jill's husband Derrick is an outlier since he actually has an education.

So that leaves approximately 40+ people more or less relying on Jim Bob and his income and/or their Duggar name. This trial is going to have very severe consequences for this family.

And one final note: Josh's youngest kid who was just born in October is named Madison. Yes, like Ashley Madison, the website where he signed up to cheat on Anna...

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:

And one final note: Josh's youngest kid who was just born in October is named Madison. Yes, like Ashley Madison, the website where he signed up to cheat on Anna...
LMAO Holy gently caress

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:

The thing about these people is that their morality is completely black and white. All sexual contact outside of godly heterosexual marriage is equally sinful. Kissing someone other than your spouse is the same as what Josh has done. There's no nuance.

As for the money--all of it went to Jim Bob. Jill, the eldest daughter, split from the rest of her family when her husband Derrick (who was in law school at the time I believe) convinced her to request her share.

Their cult doesn't believe women should have jobs other than maybe being a midwife , so all of the Duggar daughters and granddaughters will never be expected to make money. They also believe that men should never be subservient to women in any way, which prevents them from working most "secular" jobs since they might be expected to have female supervisors. They tend to be "entrepreneurs" who work for themselves/Jim Bob doing stuff like selling cars or flipping houses or become pastors themselves. Jill's husband Derrick is an outlier since he actually has an education.

So that leaves approximately 40+ people more or less relying on Jim Bob and his income and/or their Duggar name. This trial is going to have very severe consequences for this family.

And one final note: Josh's youngest kid who was just born in October is named Madison. Yes, like Ashley Madison, the website where he signed up to cheat on Anna...

I am curious if this fucks Jim Bob over chances for state senate. his election is like next week or so. i feel like this could help or gently caress him.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.
Not Jmadison? smh

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
I hope in addition to sending Dugger to life in prison the jury also votes to rename TLC to "The Pedo Channel".

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
I am certain TLC will still continue onward with smash hits like Hoarders and My 800 Pound Life

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:


So that leaves approximately 40+ people more or less relying on Jim Bob and his income and/or their Duggar name. This trial is going to have very severe consequences for this family.


There's like three or four grandkids born every year too.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

EorayMel posted:

I am certain TLC will still continue onward with smash hits like Hoarders and My 800 Pound Life

It's my 600lb life. They're not freaks man.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

gently caress this


What a horrible snipe.


I think we should burn pedophiles at the stake.

wesleywillis posted:

If (because lol justice in america) this guy is found guilty, can we give him some sort of respirator that feeds him clean air, while tying him to a stake and setting a bunch of sticks and bushes etc on fire?

He needs to be able to breathe fresh air while he burns to death. No dying of smoke inhalation before the rest of him goes up in flames.

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

Demon Of The Fall posted:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/2021/05/30/gwen-shamblin-lara-remnant-fellowship-church-tennessee-plane-crash/5272006001/

I grew up in Brentwood and had a few run ins with some members of this church. Super weird people, nice enough on the outside but I knew they weren't there in the head

Lmao, god is no substitute for checklists and a turbine engine certification

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Julius CSAR posted:

Lmao, god is no substitute for checklists and a turbine engine certification

Put your faith in God and Pratt and Whitney.

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa

What comedy goldmine was that, again

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde

Julius CSAR posted:

Lmao, god is no substitute for checklists and a turbine engine certification

The HBO documentary ended really abruptly and as far as I know the NTSB is still investigating but I just assumed the pilot suicided them.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

What comedy goldmine was that, again

https://www.somethingawful.com/feature-articles/sa-forum-goons/1/

I googled it earlier and had a good laugh.

Tumble
Jun 24, 2003
I'm not thinking of anything!

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Yesterday I was feeling uneasy that Josh might get cleared

Today I feel like nails were driven into his coffin

He was done once the feds decided to bring charges against him, they wouldn't do that unless they were positive they'd win.

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo
My dad had a saying, “The guy was so far behind the airplane the ambulance beat him to the accident.”

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

Seth Pecksniff posted:

Not Jmadison? smh

Just as bad: All 'M' names.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

RC and Moon Pie posted:

Just as bad: All 'M' names.

Is there a reason behind the quiverfull fundies giving their kids names that start with the same letter?

As ina religious/cultural reason. Not just "look at how cute and quirky we are! Not at all disturbing or creepy."

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Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

BrigadierSensible posted:

Is there a reason behind the quiverfull fundies giving their kids names that start with the same letter?

As ina religious/cultural reason. Not just "look at how cute and quirky we are! Not at all disturbing or creepy."

You’re acting like there’s a difference lol

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