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Yuli Ban
Nov 22, 2016

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nikosoft
Dec 17, 2011

ghost in the shell, but somehow much worse
College Slice

Greg Legg posted:

Forgive me if this is off topic but it's something that's been bothering me and I guess I'm looking for advice. My brother is not vaccinated and neither is one of my friends back where I'm from. My friend was a shut in even before the pandemic so I'm not really concerned but my brother has 3 kids, 2 of which are in school.

When I try to nudge them gently towards considering maybe getting vaccinated they like to point out that the messaging from the mainstream media and the democrats has been hypocritical about the vaccines. The alt media they consume right and left promote this message.

The thing is they aren't really wrong, the mainstream media lies all the time. And I personally am open about my initial concerns about getting vaccinated even though I'm boosted. It's almost as though they view measures to contain the virus ike vaccine mandates and quarantine as worse than the virus itself. They point to the poo poo job the US has done at both as evidence. They're correct of course but I've tried pointing to places that have done it properly and got nowhere with that one (they said those governments are lying).

It's a culture war issue isn't it? I stopped engaging because the very act of me disagreeing was reinforcing to them. It's like they cannot apply the same critical approach they have of "mainstream" media to the "alternative" media they consume. And this makes me feel like I'm the one missing the point.

This is all correct, and you arguing with them won't do anything.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Atrocious Joe posted:

do we have enough drivers for the morgue trucks, or will the national guard be called up to drive them

we already have a well functioning system for picking corpses up off the street

Too Many Birds
Jan 8, 2020


the national guard wont be called up to drive dead bodies around because that would be admitting defeat

the bodies are going to pile up on the streets and the chuds/brunchers/feds are gonna tell us we're imagining things.

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80RtBeB61LE

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006
Lets play a game!

"How many days will it take for each state to run out of staffed ICU beds with the current increases in each state. "


https://twitter.com/patricklsimpson/status/1467577593117433859?s=20

Now look at that, and think about Omicron.

LOL

Elea
Oct 10, 2012
Can't get over how the fact we've created animal reservoirs for covid where it can mutate and reappear is used to argue we should demolish public health infrastructure rather than build it up.

facetoucher cat
Dec 20, 2013

by sebmojo
https://twitter.com/fox6now/status/1467577052559818761?t=BidA8GFaKodqJFR48AaQmQ&s=19

*distant ship bell ringing*

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass

fosborb posted:

me trying to anticipate new CDC guidance for new variants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvwN_O5ypTE

lmao

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008
lmao yesss plague ships are back. that was one of the funniest things about 2020

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008

fosborb posted:

me trying to anticipate new CDC guidance for new variants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvwN_O5ypTE

Failson
Sep 2, 2018
Fun Shoe
My extended family has been really careful. Vaccines as soon as possible, boosters, masks, limited contact, watching case counts and news.

... They all decided last month to go to Hawaii, leave next week.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Failson posted:

My extended family has been really careful. Vaccines as soon as possible, boosters, masks, limited contact, watching case counts and news.

... They all decided last month to go to Hawaii, leave next week.

A little COVID exposure, as a treat.

durrneez
Feb 20, 2013

I like fish. I like to eat fish. I like to brush fish with a fish hairbrush. Do you like fish too?

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

I love life. I love the things that bring me joy. I love my friends and some of my family. The world is full of horror but there is beauty, too, and I will be damned if I'm going to part with the beauty a second before I have to.

Plus there's also spite. If fascists want me dead they're going to have work every loving second at getting that done. Like hell is my last act in life going to be doing a fascist's job for them.

:haibrow: :haibrow: :haibrow:

space chandeliers
Apr 8, 2008

Thoguh posted:

Try pointing them to the same thing that convinced all of us back in January - the rich and powerful immediately jumped to the front of the line to get vaccinated, many of them publicly. And when the Texas governor tested positive it came out that he'd gotten a booster even though they weren't yet approved by the FDA. You don't need to trust what the people in power are saying, just pay attention to what they're doing. They're getting vaccinated. They're getting tested.

I can see this working with some people, but it may not work if you're constantly barraged with right-wing conspiracies by people close to you, like my mom for instance. I tried this approach earlier this year and it didn't work. She later told me she only got vaxxed because she needed it to accept a new position at a school.

Tried to say the same things to my sister a few weeks ago. All I got was a thanks for the information i'M gOnNa dO mY rEsEaRcH. This is after she told me she faked a negative test result to attend a Strokes concert.

I don't talk much to family anymore.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
It's nice to see thread opinions in the wild.

https://twitter.com/devisridhar/status/1467556902162808832?s=20

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
this is starting to feel like deja vu, a giant glitch in the matrix

captainbananas
Sep 11, 2002

Ahoy, Captain!

Atrocious Joe posted:

do we have enough drivers for the morgue trucks, or will the national guard be called up to drive them

finally, a use for the tesla truck. plus, with the right cowcatchter-style attachment it can increase its throughput on the fly as it plows through pedestrians it thinks are plastic bags. they probably had covid anyhow

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Pillowpants posted:

Lets play a game!

"How many days will it take for each state to run out of staffed ICU beds with the current increases in each state. "


https://twitter.com/patricklsimpson/status/1467577593117433859?s=20

Now look at that, and think about Omicron.

LOL

lol how does Florida have so many

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

r u ready to WALK posted:

we already have a well functioning system for picking corpses up off the street



It's how I plan to be buried.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lol how does Florida have so many

Thank you, Governor DeSantis! 🙌 🙏

captainbananas
Sep 11, 2002

Ahoy, Captain!

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lol how does Florida have so many

they've realized that just like laws, data aren't real

Slider
Jun 6, 2004

POINTS

fosborb posted:

me trying to anticipate new CDC guidance for new variants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvwN_O5ypTE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOgcYl8f2ts&t=856s

Elea
Oct 10, 2012
Would be nice if the CDC was communicating this clearly. And we could distribute, subsidize or find the LFDs.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Kit_Yates_Maths/status/1467425757278449665

Spoondick
Jun 9, 2000

HiHo ChiRho posted:

Thank you, Governor DeSantis! 🙌 🙏

i think we found his apology in south africa, he should go get it

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lol how does Florida have so many

Easy when you don't count covid icu beds as occupied icu beds (who knows actually)

Mental Hospitality
Jan 5, 2011

I've been at work for 4 hours and just heard the 5th code on the overhead. Most recent being on a covid unit where a middle aged gentleman passed away 2 hours ago.

When our cov+ admits skyrocketed a few weeks ago I knew we had started the timer again. Omicron's not even here yet I don't think.

:tif:

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

Ow my brain

Spoondick
Jun 9, 2000

i would like to throw out that instacart owns because i can start day drinking and cooking a lot earlier in the day

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Mental Hospitality posted:

I've been at work for 4 hours and just heard the 5th code on the overhead. Most recent being on a covid unit where a middle aged gentleman passed away 2 hours ago.

When our cov+ admits skyrocketed a few weeks ago I knew we had started the timer again. Omicron's not even here yet I don't think.

:tif:

Think of all the money that capitalists are saving tho!

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Greg Legg posted:

Forgive me if this is off topic but it's something that's been bothering me and I guess I'm looking for advice. My brother is not vaccinated and neither is one of my friends back where I'm from. My friend was a shut in even before the pandemic so I'm not really concerned but my brother has 3 kids, 2 of which are in school.

When I try to nudge them gently towards considering maybe getting vaccinated they like to point out that the messaging from the mainstream media and the democrats has been hypocritical about the vaccines. The alt media they consume right and left promote this message.

The thing is they aren't really wrong, the mainstream media lies all the time. And I personally am open about my initial concerns about getting vaccinated even though I'm boosted. It's almost as though they view measures to contain the virus ike vaccine mandates and quarantine as worse than the virus itself. They point to the poo poo job the US has done at both as evidence. They're correct of course but I've tried pointing to places that have done it properly and got nowhere with that one (they said those governments are lying).

It's a culture war issue isn't it? I stopped engaging because the very act of me disagreeing was reinforcing to them. It's like they cannot apply the same critical approach they have of "mainstream" media to the "alternative" media they consume. And this makes me feel like I'm the one missing the point.

I feel you. I have a friend who's down the anti-vax rabbit hole and I wish I could reach him, but I don't know how. The elites are using the virus to cull the elderly and the working class. Almost every politician and billionaire is vaccinated, but there's an organized campaign telling average people that they shouldn't get vaccinated.

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa

smoobles posted:

LOL wealthy people will always have the ability to socially distance in their mansions while poor people die to provide them Doordash and streaming shows

they loved 2020.

It helps but it's not the end all be all. The serving staff needs to go do stuff, too. And the politicians and businessmen need to have board meetings.

Spoondick
Jun 9, 2000

Chamale posted:

I feel you. I have a friend who's down the anti-vax rabbit hole and I wish I could reach him, but I don't know how. The elites are using the virus to cull the elderly and the working class. Almost every politician and billionaire is vaccinated, but there's an organized campaign telling average people that they shouldn't get vaccinated.

it's funded by big business interests that believe if we just rip the bandaid off and let covid burn hot enough for long enough it will all be over and we'll have mostly only lost unproductive poor and elderly people sucking up their tax dollars

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lol how does Florida have so many

They don’t - they just haven’t been increasing that much.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Spoondick posted:

it's funded by big business interests that believe if we just rip the bandaid off and let covid burn hot enough for long enough it will all be over and we'll have mostly only lost unproductive poor and elderly people sucking up their tax dollars

seems pretty short sighted but that's Reaganomics for you

Why Am I So Tired
Sep 28, 2021

mycomancy posted:

Love too see previously reasonable people lose their loving mind because a lack of treats in their life.

"Hey, you know that virus that loving kills like 1% of people and leave half of the recovered hosed up for life? Maybe this strain with greater transmissibility and likely immune evasion will be the one that gives us herd immunity, even though every loving coronavirus ever found doesn't work like that. Then I can throw money down the toilet of dining out!"

This is a very clear and good way of putting it.

quote:

loving children everywhere.

Got some news about that.

Sushi The Kid
Sep 10, 2005
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Did you know that right now in FL is the CEO Fighting Game Championships. It's day 3 of 3. Couple hundred people there, from all over the world.

Bruce Hussein Daddy
Dec 26, 2005

I testify that there is none worthy of worship except God and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of God
Out of stuff to watch so I'm watching some lib news interview of Fauci and the host asks "might this lead to travel restrictions?" like the worst possible scenario is you can't fly to France or some dumb poo poo. This constant ~we can't have LocKdoWs~ :qq: like mother fucker why don't we think of ways we can improve the situation not how is this affecting my brunch :qq:

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug

Spoondick posted:

it's funded by big business interests that believe if we just rip the bandaid off and let covid burn hot enough for long enough it will all be over and we'll have mostly only lost unproductive poor and elderly people sucking up their tax dollars

I think this is true and it gives me hope that when a variant that well and truly escapes out therapies rips through us the political will to end covid will be mustered. Because the fact is we know exactly what to do we just have to want to do it. Not sure if Omicron will be that variant but the sooner, the better.

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Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:

Out of stuff to watch so I'm watching some lib news interview of Fauci and the host asks "might this lead to travel restrictions?" like the worst possible scenario is you can't fly to France or some dumb poo poo. This constant ~we can't have LocKdoWs~ :qq: like mother fucker why don't we think of ways we can improve the situation not how is this affecting my brunch :qq:

https://twitter.com/NathanTankus/status/1467573041454624768

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