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Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


Havent seen the Conversation. How is the key line stressed to have two different meanings?

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SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

Inspector Gesicht posted:

Havent seen the Conversation. How is the key line stressed to have two different meanings?

"He'd KILL us if he had the chance."
(Hackman believes the speaker is scared of someone else)

"He'd kill US if he had the chance."
(Speaker is justifying their plans to murder someone)

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

"He'd KILL us if he had the chance."
(Hackman believes the speaker is scared of someone else)

"He'd kill US if he had the chance."
(Speaker is justifying their plans to murder someone)


Yeah see that's just straight-up cheating on the same level as using different words, in my opinion. Inflection really matters in English (and a lot of other languages too though not all of them).

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...
Yeppers. In all fairness I do understand that they needed something that said unequivocally "yes, Gene Hackman misinterpreted the conversation" in a sequence where there is absolutely no room for any expository dialogue without just having Hackman talk to himself. And I don't think the idea was "this was how it was actually said" but rather "this was how it was meant."

I really can't say I blame them for doing it (though yes it comes off as a cheat regardless and really irritates me).

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
THat was done so much better in the DS game Fantasy Life, because it was a conversation heard through a door and you only picked out certain keywords that changed the meaning of the sentence - the setup is that the princess is worried about a dragon friend of hers because hes' acting out of character, getting weirdly violent and no one knows why, and the king has sent a bunch of knights. At an inn you overhear the knights and hear the words "Dragon... dangerous... whatever it takes.... kill" but later on you find out that what the full phrase was was "We need to help the dragon. It will be dangerous, but we must do whatever it takes. Even if some of us are killed in the process."

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Isn't the whole thing with The Conversation that he's basically reconstructing the convo from different surveillance recordings?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



I think he mostly uses filters and stuff to bring the voices out from the background noise on on a single tape.

Anyway it doesn't bother me, because by that point he's fully paranoiac and it doesn't really matter what's on the tape anymore. He's already gone.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar
Aquarium of the Dead: Why would you take the syringe out of its packaging before tossing it several yards to the other person? Just seems unsafe. Besides, we could tell it was an injection from the dialogue before that, you don't need to show it.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


yeah I eat rear end posted:

Aquarium of the Dead:

Vivics A Fox's death scene in that is the most incompetent 10 seconds of cinema ever. I rewound it several times to let it sink it.

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yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar
The Last Duel: was it really necessary to make matt damon have a mullet

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

yeah I eat rear end posted:

The Last Duel: was it really necessary to make matt damon have a mullet
Manorial obligations in the front, feast day in the back

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The sillier a medieval movie looks the more likely it's historically accurate.

Szurumbur
Feb 17, 2011
Would You Rather, a movie about a rich person toying with lives of poor people. The villain and his game works really well as a metaphor for capitalist society, poor people fighting each other for scraps from the rich rear end in a top hat's table and so on, but the part that irritated me (irrationaly;) was how vaguely and poorly the rules and challenges were - which might have very well been the point, I don't know. For example, the first one was "Would you rather electrocute yourself, or [another person]", and I thought it was weird that they will be killing characters so early in the movie - but it wasn't literally electrocution, it turns out. Later on, the challenge is to "light a firecracker in you hand", with the firecracker not being a firecracker, but some small explosive. And besides the fact that it wasn't a firecracker, there is a difference between lighting something and holding it when it explodes. And the later on, during the same game, the players have to choose between the known challenge (being held underwater for two minutes) and unknown challenge being revealed from an envelope - one character chooses the envelope, and there's a challenge for being held underwater for four minutes, which is just being killed - and she is!

Like I said, this might have very well been the point - any vagueness in the rules you can't take advantage of, the rich person gets to choose what the rules mean etc. But I demand a bit more respect for the wording and rules from my movie villains :colbert:

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
That almost certainly is the point, yes. The rich can get away with being vague because questioning the rules means you lose.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Jeffrey Combs was the only good thing about that movie.

Crespolini
Mar 9, 2014

yeah I eat rear end posted:

The Last Duel: was it really necessary to make matt damon have a mullet

It certainly was.

Szurumbur
Feb 17, 2011
Also, when the dipshit son came into the room and started to tell the players how they are trying to ger his family's money no one asked him what was his personal contribution to this money, or if he also won a game to make use of it or anything like that. Yes, it would make very little difference in the grand scheme of thing, but that was a missed opportunity.

And the ending was really something;)

Oh, and to add to endings being something: Daniel isn't real - a nice movie, I thought it was a good metaphor for mental ilness, even if fantastical. How the voices sometimes seem to "help", but it's still a good idea to remember they are in your head etc. Well, (ending spoilers) it turns out Daniel is real, and there's no mental ilness, just an ancient demon feasting on minds. Oh well.

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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



Carthag Tuek posted:

i just rewatched the survivalist

imo the main guys butt is too meaty, theres no way hes been out there that long

watched it again, and its honestly not his butt thats the problem. its his huge cock.

like theres two possibilities. the production thinks is cock is --
1- small. who knows if it really is, but they create a giant prosthesis.
2- large, and make sure it was on camera

theres no middle ground. it seriously messes with my experience, cause it is a great movie, but just an amazingly large dick

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Is that the 2015 or the 2021 movie?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



Memento posted:

Is that the 2015 or the 2021 movie?

2015

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013
There was a scene in Westworld where one of the techs was testing a malfunctioning host by having him pour water, and he had a distractingly enormous dick. I always wondered if that was a happy accident or if they actually sent out a casting call for big weiners.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
It's not porn, it's HBO.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



packetmantis posted:

There was a scene in Westworld where one of the techs was testing a malfunctioning host by having him pour water, and he had a distractingly enormous dick. I always wondered if that was a happy accident or if they actually sent out a casting call for big weiners.

i mean im fine with prosthetics & implants, or even if its real, haha. its just so large that it um which epsisode?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Carthag Tuek posted:

i mean im fine with prosthetics & implants, or even if its real, haha. its just so large that it um which epsisode?

Episode 5 of Season 1, Contrapasso.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



Memento posted:

Episode 5 of Season 1, Contrapasso.

thx! huh. i have actually watched it but its one of those shows where i just stop caring after s1. that sounds way more smug than intended. im going to watch the episode & report back.

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Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Carthag Tuek posted:

thx! huh. i have actually watched it but its one of those shows where i just stop caring after s1. that sounds way more smug than intended. im going to watch the episode & report back.

Pretty much everyone stopped caring after s1. Everyone I know raved about s1, there was a flutter of interest in s2, and I've never heard S3 mentioned irl.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



holy fck

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



i was getting back into the plot. theres a lotta good actors in there, i might like this show as a show in the future, like an idiot

but that is a huge cock

thank you for pointing me in the right direction

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Pretty much everyone stopped caring after s1. Everyone I know raved about s1, there was a flutter of interest in s2, and I've never heard S3 mentioned irl.

Season 2 sucked because someone on Reddit or somewhere guessed what the gimmick was going to be, so they redid the entire season at the last minute as a garbled in media res clusterfuck. Because the creators were really just that loving petty over someone guessing their masterpiece.

Season 3 should have been wild. The robots escaped out into the world and started messing poo poo up. Instead it was just a whole new kind of dumb.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



Megillah Gorilla posted:

Season 2 sucked because someone on Reddit or somewhere guessed what the gimmick was going to be, so they redid the entire season at the last minute as a garbled in media res clusterfuck. Because the creators were really just that loving petty over someone guessing their masterpiece.

Season 3 should have been wild. The robots escaped out into the world and started messing poo poo up. Instead it was just a whole new kind of dumb.

gently caress i really wish the internet hadnt guessed the plot that we telegraphed oh well the producers are saying we gotta think up a new plot but weird, nobody liked it i guess its definitely not the producers fault

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
There's an episode of Oz that opens with Christopher Meloni completely naked pissing into a bucket and you'll be pleased.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



Pope Corky the IX posted:

There's an episode of Oz that opens with Christopher Meloni completely naked pissing into a bucket and you'll be pleased.

yeah thats real, afaik no cgi or prosthetics, just a attractive dude with a attractive dick. also i just realized: tehy totally ripped off that scene for eastern promises

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Season 2 sucked because someone on Reddit or somewhere guessed what the gimmick was going to be, so they redid the entire season at the last minute as a garbled in media res clusterfuck. Because the creators were really just that loving petty over someone guessing their masterpiece.

Season 3 should have been wild. The robots escaped out into the world and started messing poo poo up. Instead it was just a whole new kind of dumb.

What was the plot that was guessed? Because thats hilariously dumb and petty,and makes the GoT dudes look mature and well adjusted.

I knew S2 was going to be poo poo when the main robot lady walks in to negotiate with the desperados, and they're all posed like the last supper for literally no reason. Just smash random imagery into your show, doesnt matter if it fits.

Shogun World owns, but I'm sad we didn't get a Japanese style cover of Paint it Black to go with it.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?
It was more like reddit predicted the ending of season 1 so they re edited season 2 to be harder to follow, iirc. Other than the editing they also turned Evan Rachel Wood's character into an annoying one-dimensional killing machine.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Yeah, that's what it was.

I've started memory holing the entirety of Westworld given how poo poo the second and third seasons were.

Still just incredibly petty to deliberately turn an entire season into gibberish because the infinite monkeys of the internet guessed your big reveal.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



its just such a shame that all first seasons end like this. fantastic setting, characters, budget, and even if its only "meant" to be one season, they write it like its a cliffhanger. Stories that end are really good! I wish more stories end.

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica
they basically put all the scenes out of chronological order. It was a real mess

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
If it wasn't for that one episode with the love story between the two Ghost Nation robots, the entire season would have been completely pointless.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
I gave up early in season 3 because being deliberately opaque had priority over telling an interesting story. Even the “previously on” segments are just images with no dialogue. gently caress off, Westworld.

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Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Im having an existential crisis over how many character names from wheel of time I have been pronouncing wrong :saddowns: i guess thats an irrational complaint

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