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Yeah when the musical really started gaining traction I was definitely one of those people who conflated it with Love, Simon and assumed it was a coming out story. I'm guessing it was the fact they were both A Thing around the same time and had "letter to some dude"-inspired titles Edit: I see why video essayists have trended towards longer videos but frankly it's hard for me to pay attention to most of them save for like, Jenny and hbomb. I'm not sure what makes their videos easier to digest versus people like Sarah Z, Lola or Quinton though Blood Nightmaster fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Dec 6, 2021 |
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Dec 6, 2021 03:29
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The thing with Sarah's videos that messes with it is that because she sits right in front of a window, you can just see it getting darker as the video progresses until its the middle of the night suddenly. It makes it feel like it takes longer than it does, if anything.
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Dec 6, 2021 03:34
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fun hater posted:i also thought it was about a sad gay kid
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Dec 6, 2021 03:50
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BrianWilly posted:I've not watched the video yet and I'm kind of reluctant to do so at this point if it's really gonna do the thing that y'all are saying it's doing, so I don't know if Sarah talks about this, but another reason that this impression might have spread around might be from how intertwined the show and the titular character are with Ben Platt, who came out as a gay man around the time the show got really big.
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Dec 6, 2021 04:04
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Grondoth posted:She starts off talking about how it got popular with teens cause of gay shipping and how she thinks it might've been unfairly maligned because of it, which is just a bad Sarah Z indicator. Sarah Z's video is about musical adaptations using Dear Evan Hansen as a case study (which she explicitly states in the conclusion). There really isn't much about fan culture (or the misconceptions about the plot) beyond a few brief sections.
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Dec 6, 2021 04:05
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Blood Nightmaster posted:Edit: I see why video essayists have trended towards longer videos but frankly it's hard for me to pay attention to most of them save for like, Jenny and hbomb. I'm not sure what makes their videos easier to digest versus people like Sarah Z, Lola or Quinton though I think the digressions and jokes hbomb and Jenny put in their videos make them more interesting to actively watch. Sarah's videos I don't mind listening to in the background as I'm doing other things, but it's primarily her talking at the camera for most of it so there's no reason to be looking directly at the video. BrianWilly posted:I've not watched the video yet and I'm kind of reluctant to do so at this point if it's really gonna do the thing that y'all are saying it's doing, so I don't know if Sarah talks about this, but another reason that this impression might have spread around might be from how intertwined the show and the titular character are with Ben Platt, who came out as a gay man around the time the show got really big. She does mention that. Sarah's video is fine, but if you want a shorter breakdown of Dear Evan Hansen's video, Jenny's video will satisfy all your needs. I guess you could also go listen to Sideways' video on Into the Woods a bit, too, since Sarah Z also brings up the Into the Woods movie as far as adaption failures. Or Sideways' video on Cats. Actually just go watch any given Sideways video on musicals they're all great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b6OEjF4s1M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3aK-EK5V2k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6j-562xQSs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ikqU6G6Xgs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX0gZY9VKlM
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Dec 6, 2021 04:09
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I refuse to watch any video whose title makes assumptions about how I feel.
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Dec 6, 2021 04:33
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You feel nothing, Ghostlight, you feel nothing.
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Dec 6, 2021 04:41
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Ghostlight posted:I refuse to watch any video whose title makes assumptions about how I feel. Here's Why You're Wrong
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Dec 6, 2021 04:49
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James from Dead Meat announced that starting in 2022 they're taking a 6 month break at least, due to being burnt out from the weekly+ content. They are having someone else step in for some episodes, but I hope the backlash to them isn't too bad, since regardless of how good they are generally audiences don't take replacement people well.
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Dec 6, 2021 06:21
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Ghostlight posted:I refuse to watch any video whose title makes assumptions about how I feel. I give you permission to just watch the more polite and neutrally named Into the Woods video from Sideways then.
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Dec 6, 2021 06:39
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Dan Olson is being an rear end in a top hat bragging about how his big following let's him wreck people on twitter https://twitter.com/FoldableHuman/status/1467677588915113993?t=KVrREHg8KC_uzfTJhv2Y5Q&s=19 Which is at best tonedeaf, but considering he has lied about people to fuel harassment of them, it's pretty horrible.
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Dec 6, 2021 07:29
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fun hater posted:i also thought it was about a sad gay kid https://www.advocate.com/books/2019/1/31/dear-evan-hansen-novel-queer-ghost-comes-out-and-saves-lives There is actually a novelization of Dear Evan Hansen, in which it is revealed that the dead kid was a sad gay, and he gets to hang out as a ghost and provide ongoing commentary on the events, even going so far as to save people's lives with his ghostly powers. In the Dear Evan Hansen Novel, a Queer Ghost Comes Out and Saves Lives posted:But perhaps most significantly, the novel gives Connor — whose role in the musical is more of an inciting incident than a major character — a fully realized voice. Throughout the story, Connor's ghost lingers to observe how the living respond to his death. Full chapters of the book, written in the first person, are devoted to Connor's commentary as well as the memories of events that led to his suicide. His presence leads the story into supernatural territory. A shadowy figure is seen from a window; later, an unseen force wills a character out of harm's way. I can't believe Jenny managed to miss this. SimonChris fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Dec 6, 2021 |
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Dec 6, 2021 08:16
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Lotus Aura posted:The thing with Sarah's videos that messes with it is that because she sits right in front of a window, you can just see it getting darker as the video progresses until its the middle of the night suddenly. It makes it feel like it takes longer than it does, if anything. I'm always kind of amazed to learn people actually earnestly sit down and watch those overly long video essays instead of just letting them run in the background like an audio play. I'd never notice poo poo like this.
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Dec 6, 2021 08:32
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Antigravitas posted:Apropros of nothing: the other half are RTgame
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Dec 6, 2021 08:42
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a happy little meteor. let's give him a friend.
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Dec 6, 2021 09:09
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SimonChris posted:https://www.advocate.com/books/2019/1/31/dear-evan-hansen-novel-queer-ghost-comes-out-and-saves-lives Wow, I can't believe someone managed to make Dear Evan Hansen even worse 
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Dec 6, 2021 09:41
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Libluini posted:I'm always kind of amazed to learn people actually earnestly sit down and watch those overly long video essays instead of just letting them run in the background like an audio play. I'd never notice poo poo like this. Yeah thats how I do it too. But to be fair, I do it for a lot of content creators at times.. people like Thoughtslime and Quinton but also visually intensive youtubers like Defunctland and some Jenny videos.
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Dec 6, 2021 10:31
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Zetsubou-san posted:the other half are RTgame I can never hear the song "Take Me Home, Country Roads" again without envisioning a Cities Skylines playthrough in utter chaos It's truly a blursed channel
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Dec 6, 2021 11:48
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Blood Nightmaster posted:I can never hear the song "Take Me Home, Country Roads" again without envisioning a Cities Skylines playthrough in utter chaos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFGglXjZ4vc But what else are you going to play as you flood the world in poo poo from a Poopcano?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZnBF_1MP7Y The animated version is also very good.
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Dec 6, 2021 12:14
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Libluini posted:I'm always kind of amazed to learn people actually earnestly sit down and watch those overly long video essays instead of just letting them run in the background like an audio play. I'd never notice poo poo like this. If I made extremely long video essays, at some point in every video I'd just do a Fight Club and slip a like one millionth frame of a butt in there somewhere different each time. All my real fans know the cheek timestamps. 
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Dec 6, 2021 12:17
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bobjr posted:James from Dead Meat announced that starting in 2022 they're taking a 6 month break at least, due to being burnt out from the weekly+ content. Interesting. James is on record as the last time he took, I think it was, just a month break it hit the channel hard thanks to The Algorithm demanding a constant conveyor belt of souls and sacrifice to keep your videos being noticed.
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Dec 6, 2021 14:18
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Dead Meat has had to have made "can live comfortably if I quit tomorrow" money by now.
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Dec 6, 2021 14:37
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Oxxidation posted:i read a few accounts that he was also a nightmarish prima donna as a director, but there's no way i could find them now I've never been able to find it again, but I distinctly remember reading an interview in which Levine said he referred to crunch as, "crunchy-crunchy." The rage that sparked left quite an impression on me.
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Dec 6, 2021 14:58
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Groovelord Neato posted:Dead Meat has had to have made "can live comfortably if I quit tomorrow" money by now. James gives the impression they're still on the hustle.
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Dec 6, 2021 15:43
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The funniest thing about Bioshock Infinite is that after years of fever-pitch hype, just three months later it was utterly and completely overshadowed in everything it attempted to do technically and emotionally by the then relatively unanticipated The Last Of Us. Like, Bioshock had all this talk about the incredible technology to have Elizabeth as an AI hanging around with you, and then immediately afterwards Ellie (almost the same name, even!) is quietly a hundred times more impressive. Also, it's funny that Bioshock 2 has this reputation as the secret best Bioshock (in classic hipster style, the best one is the one YOU didn't play), when it is easily the most centrist Bioshock. The entire point of the game is to say "oh, did you think atheistic libertarianism was bad? Well guess what: religious communism is also bad."
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Dec 6, 2021 17:05
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Bioshock 2's story beats are hot garbage from a butt but the gameplay is such a nice evolution of the first's, makes it easier to turn the brain off whenever people start talking at you.
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Dec 6, 2021 17:58
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I completely bounced off of Bioshock games so the only thing I remember from Bioshock Infinite are the memes and this CliffyB tweet
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Dec 6, 2021 18:08
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Hel posted:Dan Olson is being an rear end in a top hat bragging about how his big following let's him wreck people on twitter If the comments are believed he did so pretty recently too
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Dec 6, 2021 19:28
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Comrade Fakename posted:Also, it's funny that Bioshock 2 has this reputation as the secret best Bioshock (in classic hipster style, the best one is the one YOU didn't play), when it is easily the most centrist Bioshock. The entire point of the game is to say "oh, did you think atheistic libertarianism was bad? Well guess what: religious communism is also bad." I've never heard Bioshock 2 held up as the good story one, just the best gameplay. The story thing is all on Minerva's Den, a DLC that prototyped an entire genre by going "what if we used the audio logs, ambient world building, and exploring this weird world for purposes of narrative over SICK COMBAT EVENTS NON-STOP BETWEEN CUTSCENES".
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Dec 6, 2021 19:31
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpiLYgEyh38 Dog's Must Die reaches the most important episode of Part 4
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Dec 6, 2021 19:43
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McCloud posted:If the comments are believed he did so pretty recently too https://twitter.com/MinCorpPixel/status/1467928330309677059?s=20 So I remember this drama; the tweet he's referring to did not mention black people at all, just saying "Wow this is extremely hosed up to write" with the description of orcs. https://twitter.com/MonkipiQuinn/status/1254197453957459968?s=20 That being said... it's not like he directed people to this guy or even quote tweeted him. He just subtweeted something dumb about what was going on and some people joined what was already a pileon. idk
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Dec 6, 2021 19:59
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German Youtuber Ultrafilter did a Journalism and wrote some code to map connections between channels on Youtube. If you speak German, watch that video. It is really, really good. He also released the cluster graph. It analyses subscriptions of channels and mentions on their about page on youtube and clusters channels that have more subscriber overlap. Starting at a list of a bunch of conspiracy channels. Colours: Red: English content Green: German content Grey: English/German fitness and whatnot Violet on the left next to red: Cooking stuff, the colour gets crushed when resized Purple: German language conspiracy content (I resized it from its native 10240x10240 due to certain size constrains) 
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Dec 6, 2021 20:07
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jackofarcades posted:https://twitter.com/MinCorpPixel/status/1467928330309677059?s=20 We are all way too online to claim that QTing someone and saying "Get them" is the only way to add to the harassment of someone. Especially when someone has been around for as long as Dan and really should know how people on the internet react. When you are the biggest account talking about someone already getting pileons from racists and D&D fanatics for daring to claim it might not be perfect, lying about what they said so you can claim what they actually said for your own, is still really loving awful and harmful. Antigravitas posted:German Youtuber Ultrafilter did a Journalism and wrote some code to map connections between channels on Youtube. If you speak German, watch that video. It is really, really good. Does anyone else have some good non-english language stuff, sure the audience here might be smaller, but it's still pretty interesting.
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Dec 6, 2021 20:32
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jackofarcades posted:That being said... it's not like he directed people to this guy or even quote tweeted him. He just subtweeted something dumb about what was going on and some people joined what was already a pileon. idk To be um... unfair? it was a bizarre misread of the tweet, especially considering that Dan has done videos involving orcs and knocking down the same bullshit "It's just fiction bro!!!/Excuse me if you look deeply at the lore you will find this makes perfect sense in-universe and be ashamed of your words and deeds!!!" that people harassing MonkipiQuinn kept farting out.
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Dec 6, 2021 20:47
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Hel posted:Does anyone else have some good non-english language stuff, sure the audience here might be smaller, but it's still pretty interesting. Have you heard of Arte?  They are expanding into more and more languages and their content is great. And if you tire of their documentaries (which can be genuinely harrowing and draining) they have a docu series of European traditional food. (though it's better to watch on arte.tv due to Youtube's censorship) The German youtube space is a bit weird (and frankly I hate most of it). You have the usual crap aimed explicitly at building and exploiting parasocial relationships. Most of the good content is at least partially funded by public broadcasters. So Mailab (https://www.youtube.com/c/maiLab/videos) is genuinely good content, but if you look in the about page it's affiliated with Funk, which is a content network out of a cooperation of two German broadcasters. Kurzgesagt is the same – good content, affiliated with Funk. Funk is funded with 45 million € a year. (pocket change, basically) And then you look at the Funk website and see the list of channels: https://www.funk.net/channel/ A lot of channels on that list existed before. Rocket Beans for example, who do gaming stuff. They have cameos in some German games (The dead roleplaying group in Elex is voiced by them) There's STRG_F (https://www.youtube.com/c/STRGF/videos), a small team of reporters doing investigative journalism on youtube. Dito Y-Kollektiv (https://www.youtube.com/c/ykollektiv/videos)
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Dec 6, 2021 21:15
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Related: The Green Reich English subtitles are accurate.
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Dec 6, 2021 21:21
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Nuns with Guns posted:To be um... unfair? it was a bizarre misread of the tweet, especially considering that Dan has done videos involving orcs and knocking down the same bullshit "It's just fiction bro!!!/Excuse me if you look deeply at the lore you will find this makes perfect sense in-universe and be ashamed of your words and deeds!!!" that people harassing MonkipiQuinn kept farting out. It seems like you're misreading Dan's tweet. It seems pretty clear that he is making fun of the people dunking on the person and trying to defend what is clearly a very cringe description (in a long line of very cringe D&D descriptions).
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Dec 6, 2021 21:26
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I think Dan just disagreed with the reading and you can judge that on its own merits (something something not everything is an allegory the NA educational system broke your brains), people just really wanna Get 'Em On Twitter.
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