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If you're interested in the relation of Arcane to the general league lore, this video sums it up pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XwXq_Gi8xA It's very nerdy, only click if you're a big old nerd and don't mind potential S2 spoilers. Also, I really can't get over how gorgeous this show is, every screenshot looks amazing.
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1stGear posted:*sighing as I open up my seven terabyte folder of League of Legends pornography: Alright Fuckers*
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Reaction videos of Arcane watchers have been consistently entertaining thus far, as you get to see all the "holy poo poo why is this good" from this thread played out on game-players and non-players alike.
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Jinx is popular but not as popular as Lux, Ezreal, Yasuo, or Ahri. Nowhere close.
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Oh yeah then why don’t they have their own show, genius???1stGear posted:*sighing as I open up my seven terabyte folder of League of Legends pornography* Alright fuckers Fortiche carefully cataloging LoL porn to get a gauge of which characters need to be in S2
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"Later it would be oft-remarked that it was the shipping wars between KDA's Akali with Evelynn or Kai'Sa that would tear the Arcane thread apart."
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Akali and Kai'Sa over Akali and Evelynn?? Lmfao don't be absurd!
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Macaluso posted:Akali and Kai'Sa over Akali and Evelynn?? Lmfao don't be absurd! I think you will find there is MUCH more support in official art for the former. *Slap fight continues until the next season of Arcane is released*
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Begun, these shipping wars have
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They're a polycule. Thank you.
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Monicro posted:They're a polycule. Thank you.
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Jinx was released a lot later than a lot of the other popular League Mascots, but she was and is incredibly popular and Riot has leaned into that, so she's basically the main mascot for Wild Rift. As such it is both correct and incorrect to claim she is League's big mascot. Also, the only good K/DA ship is Ahri/Evelynn, and that's only if you assume they're still both seductresses who eat people in this universe.
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I wish Riot was good about just giving me, like a shirt with Arcane-style Jinx on it.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Oh yeah then why don’t they have their own show, genius??? I thought it was weird that season 2 focused almost entirely on shirtless signed, but the Korean market wants what it wants...
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I’ve seen a lot of art with Akali and Seraphine too, though people seem to like Ahri and Seraphine more. In summary…Monicro posted:They're a polycule. Thank you.
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Lord_Magmar posted:It’s not super noticeable but even humanoid she’s largely covered in scales and leathery dragon skin. I looked at Shyvana's in-game LoL model after knowing her only from LoR and she's way... skinnier than I thought she would be. Her dragon form, too. Spindly. Not what I imagined.
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By picking the Piltover stories for a show, they honestly made things relatively easy for themselves. The worldbuilding needed to understand the plots is basically nonexistent, it's a simple "rich vs poor, science good vs science dangerous, violence good or bad" story. Any idiot can understand those ideas. Imagine if they did some Demacia plot, they'd have to establish the whole "some people are born as mages, but that's dangerous because xyz, so they get locked in prison, also there's a dragon lady" situation before they can get to any plot whatsoever. Not to mention the Freljord which is all about a bunch of ancient tribal deities returning, but I guess some of them are actually corrupt and working for the void, except the most evil one who is actually working to save the world and also throws ice at people while saying "huarghhh!". I guess Shurima might work, it's a basic "ancient Egypt returns, also ancient monsters" story that anyone who's seen The Mummy could understand. Also there's Ezreal and Sivir as the cute / tuff leads.
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I pretty much only ever played Lux for the time I played LoL so if she shows up in Arcane or an Arcane-quality show that'd be nice Riot. tia
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Dawgstar posted:I looked at Shyvana's in-game LoL model after knowing her only from LoR and she's way... skinnier than I thought she would be. Her dragon form, too. Spindly. Not what I imagined. They’re giving her a model update because of how spindly and lithe she looks, also her gameplay pattern does not sell big Dragon beast in the slightest.
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Yeah Shyv was from The Dark Times (as opposed to now, the 'Light Enough That You Can See But You'd Still Rather It Be Brighter' times) where every female champ had the same basic bodytype.pidan posted:By picking the Piltover stories for a show, they honestly made things relatively easy for themselves. The worldbuilding needed to understand the plots is basically nonexistent, it's a simple "rich vs poor, science good vs science dangerous, violence good or bad" story. Any idiot can understand those ideas. Eh, all you need for Demacia is "these people hate mages because mages are dangerous" and if Shyv is important enough to show up she's important enough for her backstory. The Freljord is a bit complicated, true. Speaking of which, none of the tribal deities are working for the void, as Lissandra is not a demigod (also she hates it as much as everyone she's just trying to delay things)
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Demacia is literally just fantasy X-Men, how is that hard?
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You'd also have to explain why everyone is suddenly knocking each other's heads in with swords and maces, when in the last plot they had MGs
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Sachant posted:I pretty much only ever played Lux for the time I played LoL so if she shows up in Arcane or an Arcane-quality show that'd be nice Riot. tia They already made a comic that was focused on her but yeah I think it's safe to assume that any Demacia themed season would have her as one of the central characters for sure. Though for sibling drama I think it'll be hard to follow Vi/Jinx with Garen/Lux unless they really do a lot of work to make Garen a bit more interesting than he is. Not impossible but the bar is already pretty high so I doubt it would be easy.
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I'm torn on the idea of Demacia as the setting for the next story because I keep switching between 'it's too similar people will think Riot's just ripping themselves off' and 'it's similar enough that if you are interested in one you'll probably be interested in the other so it's a good choice'. But yes starting with P&Z means they have to explain the dramatic tech shift.
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pidan posted:I guess Shurima might work, it's a basic "ancient Egypt returns, also ancient monsters" story that anyone who's seen The Mummy could understand. Also there's Ezreal and Sivir as the cute / tuff leads. Ionian Resistance would be pretty easy, I guess. "Everything changed with the Noxus nation attacked."
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Kalko posted:Arcane is about the closest I've seen anything come to capturing the look and feel of Into the Spiderverse, but it still doesn't really come close for me because I do still think it's more style over substance. But that style is so fantastic it's easy to overlook its shortcomings. Would watch more. Spider-Verse uses the animation quirks so creatively. I actually think this was prettier, on balance, but there's nothing here like miles being animated out of sync with everyone, then switching into being on the ones after What's Up Danger. I'm not at all sure that Arcane was going for the same look Spider-Verse did, but obviously if we're talking about "incredible animation" its hard to argue these are two at the top. pidan posted:By picking the Piltover stories for a show, they honestly made things relatively easy for themselves. The worldbuilding needed to understand the plots is basically nonexistent, it's a simple "rich vs poor, science good vs science dangerous, violence good or bad" story. Any idiot can understand those ideas. I think a lot of bets are off on this sort of thinking. Look at Dune - that setting is incredibly complicated, but they got the important bits on screen and trusted audiences to either sort out the missing links or just not worry too much about them. The increased mainstream popularization of genre stuff helped with that.
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Dawgstar posted:Ionian Resistance would be pretty easy, I guess. "Everything changed with the Noxus nation attacked." If they're going to make the shows sequentially, a natural development would be: Piltover civil war and weapons development, Noxus using those weapons in Ionia, Ionia resistance, then maybe Riven in Noxus plot from Awaken. Or they could take it back to Piltover via Jhin. If there's even going to be that many shows, at such long development cycles this might well be lightning in a bottle. Could also be that they'll make Ionia focused stuff specifically for the Asian market, and stick with the non weeb regions for Netflix.
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pidan posted:Could also be that they'll make Ionia focused stuff specifically for the Asian market, and stick with the non weeb regions for Netflix. I have seen some absurd takes, but this is by far the most absurd. Ionia is the most popular region of champions for League in the game. Yasuo is literally the most popular champion from what I remember. People loving love Ionia.
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Boxman posted:Spider-Verse uses the animation quirks so creatively. I actually think this was prettier, on balance, but there's nothing here like miles being animated out of sync with everyone, then switching into being on the ones after What's Up Danger. For me it's the eyes that put Arcane over everything animated I've ever seen, they are so incredibly expressive. They're not huge anime eyes or even live action Alita ones but they are always doing something to sell the moment or the emotion. There is a stop motion short movie called Madame Tutli-Putli where they use puppets with real eyes edited in. And while the mouth and cheeks are not moving at all the eyes sell every emotion perfectly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGyLP6R4HTE
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They need to put Lux in next season so they can make her and Jinx canon thank you for coming to my TED talk
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Honestly I'd love to see Fortiche cover the Ruination event story specifically because of how badly Riot dropped the ball on it. The Shadow Isles would lend themselves well to the visual direction Arcane took, and because the event was so bad you don't really risk pissing off any fans with it. Unless they did a straight adaptation, that would suck.
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Five episodes in and I'm enjoying this a lot. I know nothing about League of Legends and don't really have much interest in the game still but the show is great. Also I want to see this team make a Dishonored series, please and thank you.
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I've been listening to the OST on repeat for a week now and I'm still not tired of it. Absolutely incredible soundtrack.
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Cavelcade posted:They need to put Lux in next season so they can make her and Jinx canon thank you for coming to my TED talk This frees up Kai'Sa/Ez so okay.
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One thing that bugs me about the show politically is that "Nation of Zaun" is just about the weirdest name they could have chosen for half a cosmopolitan port city. And immediately making it about ethnic identity ("my partner is a Zaunite") is also a weird choice under the circumstances. Just call it republic, free city, free state, something like that. Everyone will understand. I guess they probably didn't think too hard about the name, but it's just clearly wrong.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I have seen some absurd takes, but this is by far the most absurd. Ionia is the most popular region of champions for League in the game. Yasuo is literally the most popular champion from what I remember. One of my least favorite things League fans do is assume that A) asian fans have massively different tastes to the rest of the world, and B) because there's so many of them Riot is catering exclusively to asian, especially Chinese fans. So you get things like saying Riot makes mostly sexy champions because Chinese fans want it, or say that only Asians are interested in KDA, or, as above, saying that Ionia is only so popular from Asian fans. I'm not saying that there aren't cultural differences in what each region likes, and Riot does occasionally make decisions based on other countries (see Graves losing his cigar) but 'people liking sexy characters' isn't some sort of thing exclusively to Asia.
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Hellioning posted:One of my least favorite things League fans do is assume that A) asian fans have massively different tastes to the rest of the world, and B) because there's so many of them Riot is catering exclusively to asian, especially Chinese fans. That's not what I said at all, just that if they're going to make different shows for different markets they'd probably make the Ionia show for the Asian market. Of course lots of western people will watch it either way, just like lots of Asian fans watch arcane. League has a huge market in East Asia, they would be stupid not to make stuff for them. And that tastes differ between world regions doesn't seem too controversial.
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They call it the Nation of Zaun because right now, specifically, they're part of the nation of Piltover as an undercity. It's the difference between Rome and the Vatican City but if Rome was also just itself and the surrounding lands as a nation. It's not really clear in the show, but Piltover and Zaun actually control a very small total land, pretty much just the natural sea-gate they're built over and some lands north of there and south of there. They also have basically no room to grow outwards, because north of them is Noxus (massive military meritocratic roman imperium) and south is either blasted burnt desert shithole (Shurima, not yet reborn by the Emperor's Grace probably) or literal nearly unhabitable hell jungle (Ixtal, but nobody knows they exist). Zaun wants independence from the existing nation/city-state of Piltover, and likely wants everything south of the sea gate the bridges are built over, whilst leaving Piltover North of it.
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pidan posted:One thing that bugs me about the show politically is that "Nation of Zaun" is just about the weirdest name they could have chosen for half a cosmopolitan port city. And immediately making it about ethnic identity ("my partner is a Zaunite") is also a weird choice under the circumstances. Just call it republic, free city, free state, something like that. Everyone will understand. Yeah, "Nation" gets mis-used as a synonym for, like, a political entity a lot, including by Silco I guess. Zaun already is a nation, they're a people with their own culture and history independent from Piltover. It's political independence Silco's after. (Of course, all this is an effect of someone at Riot coming up with "Nation of Zaun," probably scribbled on the back of a napkin 12 years ago, in between paying an artist with some couch cushion change to draw someone's splash art, so now we're stuck with it). Just to continue the gushing about this show, I was watching the negotiation between Silco and Jayce again (I couldn't remember the context of "nation of Zaun",) and saw another great moment of micro-expressions. Jayce is listing off demands - cease production of shimmer, the gemstone back - and Silco is just nodding and sort of staring into middle distance. Then he said "And I need Jinx" and he stops nodding, his pupils dilate just a little bit, he adjusts his focus, then glances away nervously, but just for a moment. It's obvious right at that moment he can't do it, even before he objects to the demand. It's an amazing bit of acting. Boxman fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Dec 8, 2021 |
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"Nation of Zaun" is a lot punchier from a dialogue perspective than "Free City-State of Zaun" or "Zaunite People's Republic" or whatever.Boxman posted:Just to continue the gushing about this show, I was watching the negotiation between Silco and Jayce again (I couldn't remember the context of "nation of Zaun",) and saw another great moment of micro-expressions. Jayce is listing off demands - cease production of shimmer, the gemstone back - and Silco is just nodding and sort of staring into middle distance. Then he said "And I need Jinx" and he stops nodding, his pupils dilate just a little bit, he adjusts his focus, then glances away nervously, but just for a moment. It's obvious right at that moment he can't do it, even before he objects to the demand. It's an amazing bit of acting. My favorite part of this is his immediate panic reaction to the idea of Jinx being arrested is basically "No, arrest me instead."
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