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Atrocious Joe posted:AMLO helped Evo escape the coup in Bolivia, refused to recognize Guaido as President of Venezuela, and got Latin American countries to attend a conference that included Cuba in the middle of a new US pressure campaign against the island. Even though he didn't go along with these US schemes, both Trump and Biden seem to have pretty warm relations with him. He also didn't make a huge deal of how the plane he sent to pick-up Evo was probably under fire from Bolivian forces. You know, just the little kind of incident that could start a war. https://orinocotribune.com/anez-coup-plotters-tried-to-shoot-down-evo-morales-plane-heading-to-mexico-amlo/ quote:“During the initial ascent, the pilot managed to observe, from the left side of the cockpit, and when he reached almost 1,500 feet above the ground, a light trail similar to the characteristic of a rocket at the seven o’clock position (from the back, and to the left, of the plane’s trajectory) below the horizon,” stated the official document. “The pilot estimates that… the point from which it was launched could have been in the vicinity of the Cochabamba airport.”
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i say swears online posted:holy poo poo god loving drat it evo escaped under fire?!?!?! holy loving poo poo, what a loving badass
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If you grade AMLO on a curve with all other living Mexican presidents he's loving sick as Hell
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:If you grade AMLO on a curve with all other living Mexican presidents he's loving sick as Hell juarez, madero and cardenas were mostly cool iirc
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i say swears online posted:juarez, madero and cardenas were mostly cool iirc The impressions I get from my admittedly rather shallow knowledge of Mexican history: Juárez gets a lot of well-deserved recognition for his resistance against the French, but his liberal reforms did strip indigenous communities of their communal land and pave the way for the heightened economic inequalities of the Porfiriato. Madero was well-meaning but inept, the Ten Tragic Days being largely the result of him trying to play nice with the deposed Porfirian establishment. In the end he was a better martyr than president. Possibly the least bad ruler during the Revolution, though. Cárdenas was legit the only capital-G Good™ Mexican president of the 20th century, but he was instrumental in consolidating the PRI into the abomination it became so 🤷♂️
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Atrocious Joe posted:AMLO helped Evo escape the coup in Bolivia, refused to recognize Guaido as President of Venezuela, and got Latin American countries to attend a conference that included Cuba in the middle of a new US pressure campaign against the island. Even though he didn't go along with these US schemes, both Trump and Biden seem to have pretty warm relations with him. yeah internationally its been all bangers
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Kal-L posted:He also didn't make a huge deal of how the plane he sent to pick-up Evo was probably under fire from Bolivian forces. You know, just the little kind of incident that could start a war. God drat that’s some movie poo poo
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can't imagine a US president pulling this off https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1466491059089727492
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drat i bet that was a cool crowd to hit the bars with after
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:can't imagine a US president pulling this off seems like a disturbing wave of populism. makes u think maybe the democratic institutions are under threat. we should do the democracy affirming thing and pick some random guy and say we think he's the president now
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Yeah people are assuming the main reason behind the trip was to actually meet with Franco Parisi, the libertarian-populist candidate who spent the entire campaign trail in Alabama since he had a court order waiting for him in Chile due to unpaid child support, but still managed to get 12%. Recent polls suggest his voters are nowhere near as safe a bag of votes for Kast as initially thought (in fact some of the voter breakdowns suggest most Parisi voters would go to Boric), but Parisi supporters are more likely than other voters to just go for whoever Parisi tells them to, so a Parisi endorsement could be big. Kast has been lagging in runoff polls, but he might surge in the home stretch. The ghouls he left back home in charge of his campaign while he went off to polish the American right's knob have been giving one moronic statement after another, and they struggled with even securing Sichel's (center-right, Piñera's candidate) endorsement - Sichel issued a 9-point list of requirements ("please promise you'll stay in the UN, please promise you'll respect human rights, please say climate change is real", etc) and Kast's campaign heads were alternatively like "lmao gently caress no" and "uhhh that's already in our program, you just need to squint really hard". Sichel eventually just went and endorsed Kast regardless, because of course, but it still harmed Kast's image with moderates, particularly when Boric has been doing a passably good job of reaching out to the center in the meantime. Either way, both Kast and Boric have agreed to appear on Parisi's zoom cast ("BAD BOYS: LOS QUE INCOMODAN A LA ELITE", because of course that's the loving name) so that's gonna be a loving mess one way or the other.
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://peoplesdispatch.org/2021/12/01/chiles-far-right-candidate-tours-the-us/ i wonder if he met with these sickos https://twitter.com/davidrkadler/status/1466521499607568384?s=21
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Also remember Kast is literally the son of a Nazi officer who emigrated to Chile in 1950, and his brother was Minister of State for Pinochet. Strangely, the English version of Wikipedia just says his father was a conscripted Nazi soldier who emigrated, while the Spanish version mentions how he was affiliated with the Nazi party and escaped being tried for war crimes.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:i wonder if he met with these sickos Oh, Chile has its own "uma escolha difícil" piece of jornalistic false equivalency to refer to now, dope. My impressions of AMLO are that he is a Lula-style figure: not awesome if you are actually a leftist wishing for sweeping reforms to the system but honestly pretty good if you are grading on a curve. Mexico had a less than ideal response to COVID IIRC but then again so did a lot of countries.
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he's surprisingly deft internationally, shocking that his biggest enemy is jeanine anez
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i can't take this poo poo for two more weeks haha  
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brugroffil posted:He won his election and was head of the National Assembly, which is where his claim comes from. He didn't run against Maduro but said the 2017(?) Presidential election was illegitimate therefore as head of the NA he was rightful President until new elections could be held i suspect the real reason the libs are so all in on guido here is because his claim to the presidency is based entirely on an obscure and irrelevant bit of rules-lawyering
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fidel... back from the dead https://twitter.com/redcarnationweb/status/1467845813632225286
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Fidel is still alive... in the spirit of the Cuban regime. These 300,000 people are invoking the spectre of tyranny to beg for freedom.
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Cerebral Bore posted:i suspect the real reason the libs are so all in on guido here is because his claim to the presidency is based entirely on an obscure and irrelevant bit of rules-lawyering I don't know that it was really "obscure." It's their standard line of Presidential succession. The highly questionable part was of course declaring the then-recent elections illegitimate so therefore there was no duly elected President or Vice President. If Maduro and his VP died in a plane crash today, or they both resigned or something, whoever is now the head of the National Assembly would become President. Liberals love it because Maduro is Bad and Must Go
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speaking of the legitimate President of Venezuela https://twitter.com/camilapress/status/1467535710425161732?s=20 https://twitter.com/camilapress/status/1467235255203606532?s=20
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brugroffil posted:I don't know that it was really "obscure." It's their standard line of Presidential succession. The highly questionable part was of course declaring the then-recent elections illegitimate so therefore there was no duly elected President or Vice President. If Maduro and his VP died in a plane crash today, or they both resigned or something, whoever is now the head of the National Assembly would become President. Also the whole thing where the US gets to unilaterally make legal decisions about the Venezuelan constitution and not the Venezuelan courts.
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Atrocious Joe posted:speaking of the legitimate President of Venezuela so glad to see that the people of Venezuela have finally had their voices heard. this is what democracy looks like
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Ghost Leviathan posted:lol, did they finally realise how embarassing they looked I think they saw a future where in 2040 the guy in the UN would be some guy from miami who is only related to guaido via six degrees of kevin bacon and figured they should probably go back to normal.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:lol, did they finally realise how embarassing they looked Presumably they had finished siphoning all of the international resources of Venezuela into private accounts and did not require the pretense anymore.
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Enes Kanter has been going on a CIA asset speed run lately. I don’t know why because who cares about Enes Kanter in 2021?
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will this affect his polling https://twitter.com/Hugo_Gutierrez_/status/1467996294551642115?s=20
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Scumbag Leopoldo Lopez was invited to Chile by the right to smear poo poo against our hard earned constitutional convention.
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lol I remebmer some UN bullshit during the Trump admin where Pence told the Venezuelan guy that he shouldn't be there since he didn't represent the real government of venezuela and the dude just laughed at him
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Jose posted:will this affect his polling We've entered a legally-mandated no-polling period so from here onwards we're going blind. Up to that point polls were giving Boric a mild-to-significant lead, but that was before the rest of the right and some shitlibs fell fully in line with Kast, so chances are it's gonna be a nailbiter. But yeah this definitely doesn't help his chances with the asado crowd.
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