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feedmyleg posted:Sound is the least important part of a film's presentation to me, I personallydon't find that surround adds much if anything to the experience. I watch 4K movies using my TV's built in audio. Gimme the original mix, even if it's mono. This is a wild take. Sound is probably the most important part of watching a film. The #1 adage of low-budget filmmaking is to devote as much as you can to sound design, because audiences are incredibly forgiving for visuals (film stock, effects, color mixing) and incredibly critical of sound design. It's not even a conscious thing. Anecdotally, I've been telling my friends for a year now that the best way to upgrade your home theater system is getting a good sound bar or sound system. They just got one a week ago and it's all they can talk about, and describe it as a truly transformative thing. It's just a thing you don't notice until you have a GOOD one. Same thing happened to me last year when I finally got a sound bar myself and could adjust the treble and bass separately. And it's why the theatrical experience is impossible to replicate, because they have the best sound system that won't fit inside your house. As much as I love having my 4k UHD and finding an amazing restoration, at this point I'd say upgrading your sound system is way more of a boon than UHD or HDR10+/DolbyVision, since it will improve streaming as well. I agree with a good set of wired headphones is a great addition if you don't want to get a soundbar or speaker system. I got a pair of HyperX Cloud S headphones, which have 7.1 surround sound and adjustable bass/treble buttons, and, again, transformative experience. I mainly use them for gaming, but they're great for films or music, too. (The 7.1 is through USB only, by the way.)
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 16:03 |
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I'm an audio guy, so I love a good audio remaster, so long as it retains the original sounds (and they don't gently caress up and leave out some sounds, as remaster teams sometimes do when working with original stems, like on ANoES or the first Suspiria release from Anchor Bay). You can use those stems and still create an immersive surround track just fine. Fully replacing old foley work with completely new sounds is dumb. I recognize it a lot since it often alters the feel of the original, like those redos of Scarface or TGTB&TU with the new gun sounds that are so out of place. They did new foley for the original Black Christmas a few years ago, and the differences are pretty clear (luckily the original track is available too). Often, it feels like a studio trying to "modernize" the sounds to beef up a scene, which shows how little confidence they have in their movies and the viewer. There's just no need. A weird one is the new remaster of Taxi Driver from a few years ago. Some of the trigger/hammer sounds when Travis is loving around in the mirror with his guns are replaced with more realistic ones. No clue what that's about.
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 16:07 |
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Escape from L.A. and Looper were added to bluray.coms UHD release calendar in February.
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 18:28 |
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Basebf555 posted:Escape from L.A. and Looper were added to bluray.coms UHD release calendar in February. Before a US 4k of Big Trouble or Mouth of Madness? Insane.
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 18:48 |
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Yea I don't get it but whatever, I don't pass up Carpenter UHDs. Beggars can't be choosers.
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 18:50 |
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Basebf555 posted:Yea I don't get it but whatever, I don't pass up Carpenter UHDs. Beggars can't be choosers. Ghosts of Mars 4K when?
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 19:05 |
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It's so hosed up when the options menu is poorly designed and you can't actually tell which options has been selected.
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 19:24 |
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Gripweed posted:It's so hosed up when the options menu is poorly designed and you can't actually tell which options has been selected. It's annoying but I can always figure it out by pressing the arrow buttons on my remote and watching which direction the cursor goes on the menu.
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 19:30 |
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I put on the Home Alone 4k this weekend, and once you select your language, the movie sits on the main menu for 1 second before auto-playing. Very weird thing to happen these days, and I didn't like it!
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 19:42 |
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Basebf555 posted:It's annoying but I can always figure it out by pressing the arrow buttons on my remote and watching which direction the cursor goes on the menu. That doesn't work if there are only two options
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 19:49 |
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Gripweed posted:That doesn't work if there are only two options It should work because if the cursor is on the option on the left, and you hit the left button on your remote, it shouldn't move, because you're already on it. If you hit the right button, it'll move and you'll see it move.
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 19:52 |
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Basebf555 posted:It should work because if the cursor is on the option on the left, and you hit the left button on your remote, it shouldn't move, because you're already on it. If you hit the right button, it'll move and you'll see it move. What if it wraps around to the other option no matter which one you push, what then smart guy??
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 19:54 |
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Gripweed posted:That doesn't work if there are only two options Seems needlessly snarky towards someone trying to help you.
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 19:54 |
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Xenomrph posted:What if it wraps around to the other option no matter which one you push, what then smart guy?? Hmmm never encountered that but yes that would throw a wrench into the works
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 19:57 |
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Basebf555 posted:It should work because if the cursor is on the option on the left, and you hit the left button on your remote, it shouldn't move, because you're already on it. If you hit the right button, it'll move and you'll see it move. On my system usually if the cursor is on the left option and I hit left it'll wrap back around to the right option.
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 19:58 |
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For the lovely menus that are hard to see what you’re selecting I’ve opted to use the cursor that pops up on my tv when you shake the remote a bit. For whatever reason it works when selecting something in menus.
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 22:15 |
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I know Looper will probably be an upscale but let’s loving gooooooooo
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 22:31 |
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Steen71 posted:Comparison here: Yeah, this is definitely a lot worse than I noticed. It didn't detract from the experience while I was watching it, but A-Bing it like it is here makes the new sounds seem awful. Does the disc have the old mix if you switch it to the lossy Dolby track?
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# ? Dec 6, 2021 22:50 |
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Franchescanado posted:This is a wild take. Sound is probably the most important part of watching a film. The #1 adage of low-budget filmmaking is to devote as much as you can to sound design, because audiences are incredibly forgiving for visuals (film stock, effects, color mixing) and incredibly critical of sound design. It's not even a conscious thing. Appreciate this post homie
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# ? Dec 7, 2021 01:09 |
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RichterIX posted:Yeah, this is definitely a lot worse than I noticed. It didn't detract from the experience while I was watching it, but A-Bing it like it is here makes the new sounds seem awful. According to Harper, no.
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# ? Dec 7, 2021 08:57 |
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My Krampus UHD is out for delivery today. Will report back.
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# ? Dec 7, 2021 16:36 |
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My Who Framed... Steelbook arrived. Haven't checked the disc yet but easily one of the best decisions I've made for a Steelbook purchase.
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# ? Dec 7, 2021 22:22 |
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Mine showed up too. Also haven’t had time to check it out.
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# ? Dec 7, 2021 22:23 |
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Mom I wanna Kramp!
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# ? Dec 7, 2021 22:23 |
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I want my Roger Rabbit UHD, but I managed to order through Amazon when it was briefly available to pre-order and now im just waiting to even see if they'll fulfill it.
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# ? Dec 7, 2021 22:28 |
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I got the Suicide Squad 4K the other day. I'll post photos when I get home from work.
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# ? Dec 7, 2021 23:02 |
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Also for my birthday I got the Tremors UHD, and Night Gallery season one on Blu-ray.
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# ? Dec 8, 2021 02:11 |
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Amazon missed the delivery on my Krampus 4k today. And I feel like I'm the only one still waiting for my World of Tomorrow Blu-ray from the Kickstarter. All around a bad day for wanting my movies.
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# ? Dec 8, 2021 06:53 |
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edogawa rando posted:I got the Suicide Squad 4K the other day. I'll post photos when I get home from work. Front Back Inside That's the 4K disc in front
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# ? Dec 8, 2021 08:08 |
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Ooh I want that.
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# ? Dec 8, 2021 08:52 |
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In Australia/NZ, it's exclusive to JB Hi-Fi. According to blu-ray.com, it's Best Buy exclusive in the US.
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# ? Dec 8, 2021 09:04 |
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feedmyleg posted:Sound is the least important part of a film's presentation to me, I personallydon't find that surround adds much if anything to the experience. I watch 4K movies using my TV's built in audio. Gimme the original mix, even if it's mono. This is an insane take for someone who posts so regularly in this forum. TV speakers nowadays intentionally sound like absolute dogshit so that you buy a sound bar/sound system to fix how loving terrible they sound.
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# ? Dec 8, 2021 14:26 |
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I was able to hold off on watching the Krampus UHD last night because it didn't feel close enough to Christmas but it's snowing today so I'll probably cave tonight.
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# ? Dec 8, 2021 14:41 |
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If I already have a receiver and floor speakers do I need a soundbar? Can you mix and match them? Again, my receiver's really old and the only way I can send audio to it is through bluetooth or an optical converter. I mean I'm sure a built-in subwoofer would be an improvement, but I look at soundbars and I just think "there's no way you're getting rich sound out of that thin little thing".
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# ? Dec 8, 2021 15:31 |
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King Vidiot posted:If I already have a receiver and floor speakers do I need a soundbar? Can you mix and match them? Again, my receiver's really old and the only way I can send audio to it is through bluetooth or an optical converter. Soundbars are not designed to be used with other speakers, and mix-and-matching speakers is far from ideal because they will have different “voices” (timbres? Some of the terminology around sound gets confusing).
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# ? Dec 8, 2021 15:39 |
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Soundbars are basically the baby mode upgrade from TV speakers. I personally rock a TV wall mount that has a built in 3.1 setup. It's sadly discounted, but I thought it was a great compromise for apartment life. On the bright side, when it goes out, I'll have an excuse to upgrade to a 5.1 setup
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# ? Dec 8, 2021 15:50 |
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Decent sound / speakers are crucial, as are the availability of original sound mixes. I mean it's half the presentation, right? People flip out over George Lucasing special effects and revisionist color grading but too many don't blink an eye (or ear...) over totally different and poorly mixed Foley audio effects, etc. Modern remixes should be limited to utilizing more channels and standard volume and EQing, that's all, and even then the OG mix should still be available on the disc. One major screwup that still hasn't been fixed by Universal is the US Conan the Barbarian Blu-ray which is straight up missing several instruments and choirs from Basil Poledouris's incredible score, rendering multiple scenes neutered and awkward as a result. I don't know how you mess up that badly, just bewildering. Hopefully a future 4K release doesn't make the same mistake.
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# ? Dec 8, 2021 16:37 |
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My ideal upgrade then would probably just be a modern reciever and a good subwoofer and satellites. Otherwise that'd be a waste of good floor speakers which I already have.
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# ? Dec 8, 2021 16:43 |
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It's weird to me that the original audio isn't a default feature on blu-rays. Is there some technical reason they don't do this or are they afraid people will think the movie "sounds old"? The original Evil Dead has a 5.1 audio mix and nothing else on an otherwise excellent blu-ray.
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CPL593H posted:It's weird to me that the original audio isn't a default feature on blu-rays. Is there some technical reason they don't do this or are they afraid people will think the movie "sounds old"? The original Evil Dead has a 5.1 audio mix and nothing else on an otherwise excellent blu-ray. You know how people stretch 4:3 aspect ratios into 16:9 and see nothing wrong with it?
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