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I don't know why people are having issues with Val wanting Hawkeye dead. She is evil, works for evil people, and Clint is a good guy and also someone that might stop her evil plans, and she has the oppetunity to get who is probably the best spy/assassin on earth to do it for her. I don't think we need to learn some deep motivation for that.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 16:59 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 05:45 |
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Ignis posted:Did Hawkeye just ship Kate off back home without actually taking the Rolex off her? Cuz that's some major oversight No I think that he knew exactly what he was doing there and shows how important it actually is to him that he removed it from the area.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 17:33 |
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The whole show kind of makes me wonder who was in charge of cleaning up the avengers base wreckage. I bet it was Rocket.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 17:38 |
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Pugh got blocked from posting pictures of this week's episode on Instagram after it came out. It's funny to think Feige's Machiavellian control over everything did this but it sounds like she got flagged by fans.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 18:15 |
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live with fruit posted:Pugh got blocked from posting pictures of this week's episode on Instagram after it came out. It's funny to think Feige's Machiavellian control over everything did this but it sounds like she got flagged by fans. Have you ever read people objecting to spoilers? Specifically how much fear and loathing they direct at people who posted said spoilers? I have zero problem believing that would happen.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 18:42 |
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I learned a long time ago to not go on any website with user created content before watching a new episode of an MCU show because the algorithm will for sure spoil something.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 18:48 |
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twistedmentat posted:I don't know why people are having issues with Val wanting Hawkeye dead. She is evil, works for evil people, and Clint is a good guy and also someone that might stop her evil plans, and she has the oppetunity to get who is probably the best spy/assassin on earth to do it for her. I dunno about people having issues with Val and Hawkeye, but Yalena mad at Hawkeye for Natasha's death is pretty stupid.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 18:53 |
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live with fruit posted:I learned a long time ago to not go on any website with user created content before watching a new episode of an MCU show because the algorithm will for sure spoil something. For me it's Google News and I loving hate it.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 18:55 |
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External Organs posted:For me it's Google News and I loving hate it. "Big Name actor has been REPLACED and the fans are FREAKING OUT" (someone else was cast for 5 seconds of voice work in a "what if")
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 18:57 |
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kazil posted:I dunno about people having issues with Val and Hawkeye, but Yalena mad at Hawkeye for Natasha's death is pretty stupid. She's already got Walker so maybe Val's thing is collecting idiots.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 18:57 |
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socialsecurity posted:"Big Name actor has been REPLACED and the fans are FREAKING OUT" (someone else was cast for 5 seconds of voice work in a "what if") Yeah I can't believe Brie Larsen has been replaced so many times. Captain Marvel is a true ship of theseus.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 19:00 |
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I can definitely see some farmhouse finale in the works.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 19:12 |
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kazil posted:I dunno about people having issues with Val and Hawkeye, but Yalena mad at Hawkeye for Natasha's death is pretty stupid. Why? Yelena doesn't know anything about Clint except that he was in the Avengers with her, and maybe that he was also a SHIELD agent. From the arrow marks in the safehouse, she can assume that he fought Natasha before. If she thinks it was just a job to him, which is what she's used to thinking, then it's not a stretch that someone like Val could fabricate a story that makes it look like Clint was still an assassin and killed Natasha. I'm pretty sure it's gonna get settled quickly anyway. Then we'll get Kate and Yelena as BFFs who go on to recruit the next generation of Avengers.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 19:20 |
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The big thing about the Black Widow was Natasha freeing everyone from brainwashing. For Yelena to blindly do what the next person tells her would undercut the advancements the movie made.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 19:25 |
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live with fruit posted:The big thing about the Black Widow was Natasha freeing everyone from brainwashing. For Yelena to blindly do what the next person tells her would undercut the advancements the movie made. As others pointed out, she had a chance to just shoot him and didn't take it. Seems like she wants to get some information out of him first, like "hey, what the gently caress happened?" and "did you really kill her?"
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 19:30 |
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Codependent Poster posted:Why? Yelena doesn't know anything about Clint except that he was in the Avengers with her, and maybe that he was also a SHIELD agent. From the arrow marks in the safehouse, she can assume that he fought Natasha before. If she thinks it was just a job to him, which is what she's used to thinking, then it's not a stretch that someone like Val could fabricate a story that makes it look like Clint was still an assassin and killed Natasha. If Yalena can't understand an operative going on a deadly mission and not making it back then maybe she is a giant moron.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 19:51 |
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After all that, Marvel puts out a trailer that's largely clips of Yelena from the rest of the season
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 20:00 |
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kazil posted:If Yalena can't understand an operative going on a deadly mission and not making it back then maybe she is a giant moron. I don't think anyone knows what the Avengers did, because then people would be freaking out about time travel.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 20:12 |
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Someone says that Black Widow died saving the world and fighting Thanos, so the world definitely doesn't seem to know the details. Either that, or members of the general public are all being very poetic about her death.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 20:15 |
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Codependent Poster posted:I don't think anyone knows what the Avengers did, because then people would be freaking out about time travel. I've wondered if Ant-Man's jump in popularity since Endgame is cause people know he was the one who figured it out.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 20:17 |
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live with fruit posted:For Yelena to blindly do what the next person tells her would undercut the advancements the movie made. You've explained the entire MCU pretty succinctly. They always undercut the advancements past movies made, usually in the first minute of the next one. E.g. Iron Man 3 and Age of Ultron, or Thor Ragnarok and Infinity War.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 20:19 |
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live with fruit posted:Pugh got blocked from posting pictures of this week's episode on Instagram after it came out. It's funny to think Feige's Machiavellian control over everything did this but it sounds like she got flagged by fans. She spoiled it for me too, but I didn't lose my mind. I was actually more stoked to watch the episode after but LOL I knew "fans" would do this.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 20:24 |
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Codependent Poster posted:I don't think anyone knows what the Avengers did, because then people would be freaking out about time travel. Clint and Natasha are established Avengers due to the events in New York. They are also established due to the events in Sokovia. People with knowledge know they are friends, but the general population knows they are teammates at least. Half the world turns to dust. Avengers do *something* and that half comes back. This is also well established and known. Now, Val says Hawkeye was with Nat when she died. Now, Yalena can assume all the worst about Clint just from Val but that would completely erase any growth she had from the movie and also make her a giant complete idiot.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 20:26 |
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kazil posted:Now, Val says Hawkeye was with Nat when she died. Now, Yalena can assume all the worst about Clint just from Val but that would completely erase any growth she had from the movie and also make her a giant complete idiot. Val specifically says that he is her "target" and the "man responsible for your sister's death."
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 20:31 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Val specifically says that he is her "target" and the "man responsible for your sister's death." And why should Yalena accept this without question?
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 20:40 |
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Probably they will bring back "the shot I didn't take" with Yelena and Clint conclusion to wrap it up in a neat little MCU bowtie, then break for Christmas dinner. As to Yelena not questioning poo poo, idk, that for sure undercuts her introduction in Black Widow. Or she has another motive all her own.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 20:59 |
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We also didn't see the start of the rooftop fight, only hearing it from Kate's POV. Clint even says he thinks the figure on the roof is Maya. Yel might not have initiated the fight at all. My guess is we'll start next week with a different POV and get clarity on the subject.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 21:21 |
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You know what would be really awful and make me actually hate this show? If Yelena just doesn't pop up anymore in the last two episodes. Imagine, that short fight was all they got her for.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 21:31 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:You know what would be really awful and make me actually hate this show? If Yelena just doesn't pop up anymore in the last two episodes. Imagine, that short fight was all they got her for. She has at least two more lines! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmIDwZ78jBg
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 21:35 |
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Is Santa a real thing in the marvel comics because if so I can't wait for those final credits. Maybe Santa will be revealed to be a doom bot.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 21:47 |
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AngryBooch posted:She has at least two more lines! I love her!
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 21:48 |
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AngryBooch posted:She has at least two more lines! And yukking it up so I'm guessing they squash the beef.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 21:55 |
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This is the best. https://twitter.com/bestofpugh/status/1468832036614025216
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 23:12 |
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howe_sam posted:This is the best. And the follow up https://twitter.com/bestofpugh/status/1468911982946435072
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 23:19 |
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I was annoyed when the last episode ended and it was only at like 34 mins, I got spoiled by the longer episodes of Loki + Falcon/WS. Lotta fun stuff but I want a lot more, feels like they are gonna be sprinting to the finish line over the next two weeks.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 23:21 |
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Firebert posted:I was annoyed when the last episode ended and it was only at like 34 mins, I got spoiled by the longer episodes of Loki + Falcon/WS. Lotta fun stuff but I want a lot more, feels like they are gonna be sprinting to the finish line over the next two weeks. Yeah the episodes have been shorter and shorter each week, kinda a bummer but I hope they get longer again
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 23:22 |
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pik_d posted:Yeah the episodes have been shorter and shorter each week, kinda a bummer but I hope they get longer again They will in about two weeks.
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# ? Dec 9, 2021 23:54 |
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What's the next MCU tv show anyway?
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# ? Dec 10, 2021 00:07 |
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External Organs posted:What's the next MCU tv show anyway? They haven't said. It was supposed to be Ms. Marvel, but it's possible if Moon Knight or She-Hulk are done, they might put one of them out first. This way Ms. Marvel can be closer to when The Marvels comes out.
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# ? Dec 10, 2021 00:14 |
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Moon Knight already has finished footage and a teaser they showed last month at the investors meeting; so it's a strong candidate to be next. If they go by order of announcement, then it will be Ms. Marvel or She-Hulk.
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