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pretty soft girl posted:?? I don't think you read my post duder you responded too fast 
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only official remakes are trash though. Final Fantasy Randomizer is what your really after https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IghxHjGB0rI
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Dec 9, 2021 17:24
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chglcu posted:I guess this sort of leads in to probably one of my more unpopular opinions. Most games, especially RPGs, need like 99% less combat. Exploration and problem solving are much more interesting and killing endless waves of enemies just gets in the way of the good stuff. Sick of playing a loving murderous psychopath in every single game. I like when combat is complicated and gives flavor to your character like in the new Pathfinder game. They find a way to offer so many different options and progression along with a story that justifies most of the combat sufficiently that I don't mind that it's combat heavy. That being said, I like No Man's Sky for just the reason you say. The exploration and discovery.
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Dec 9, 2021 17:27
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Rutibex posted:only official remakes are trash though. Final Fantasy Randomizer is what your really after FF randomizer is fantastic and really gets to the heart of what makes ff1 fun while trimming all the fat. I don't think I'll be able to play the vanilla game ever again I wish there were good randomizer communities surrounding the other ff games but it seems like 1 and 4 are the only ones that got really good traction, but at least 5 has FJF. 2 and 3 having an FF1 styled randomizer would really breathe a lot of playability into those but I doubt anyone wants to subject themselves to those games that much pretty soft girl fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Dec 9, 2021 |
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Dec 9, 2021 17:29
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Rutibex posted:Edit: oh I read that wrong. yeah the remakes of FF1 are trash No one would argue otherwise because it never really got any better but was always an 80s video game at heart. The remakes look better and are less annoying but it is still an 80s video game.
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Dec 9, 2021 17:34
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90-95% of the NES library is objectively trash due to advances in the medium and doesn't need to be remastered or repackaged. Nostalgia is the only reason to ever go back to those titles as even the jump to SNES is light years ahead in overall quality and experience. By all means, make new games on those IPs but let's not forget the hours of frustrating bullshit we endured due to hardware limitations, the absolute tsunami of substandard games, and poo poo controls.
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Dec 9, 2021 17:39
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I miss cd-rom
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Dec 9, 2021 17:41
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nvidiagouge posted:90-95% of the NES library is objectively trash due to advances in the medium and doesn't need to be remastered or repackaged. Nostalgia is the only reason to ever go back to those titles as even the jump to SNES is light years ahead in overall quality and experience. By all means, make new games on those IPs but let's not forget the hours of frustrating bullshit we endured due to hardware limitations, the absolute tsunami of substandard games, and poo poo controls. That's not true, you just don't like platformers. That's fine, it doesn't mean the games are trash though.
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Dec 9, 2021 17:42
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Icochet posted:I miss cd-rom I miss Launch! Interactive CD-ROM Magazine
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Dec 9, 2021 17:44
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it’s a fantastic franchise now but metroid 1 and 2 are absolute garbage games
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Dec 9, 2021 17:46
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every platformer after the original Ninja Gaiden has been utter trash
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Dec 9, 2021 17:46
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SilvergunSuperman posted:That's not true, you just don't like platformers. Any game you play with an NES controller or input system is trash. The game may be a good platformer for it's time, but you're still playing it on hardware and with controls that have been massively updated and improved over 30 years and there's no reason to go back. It's not the design that's bad it's the medium.
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Dec 9, 2021 17:47
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pretty soft girl posted:FF randomizer is fantastic and really gets to the heart of what makes ff1 fun while trimming all the fat. I don't think I'll be able to play the vanilla game ever again my favorite is the randomizer that turns FF6 into a rogue-like by scrambling all the maps in the game and putting them into kefkas tower
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Dec 9, 2021 17:48
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To each their own, I have more fun with the original Castlevania, Super Mario and Mega Man series than any of their sequels.
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Dec 9, 2021 17:49
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Rockman Reserve posted:it’s a fantastic franchise now but metroid 1 and 2 are absolute garbage games metriod 1 is fine if you add a minimap
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Dec 9, 2021 17:50
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I love Metroid games but the original absolutely does not hold up. Even putting aside the obvious flaw of not having a map in a game about mapping out a place, the game is genuinely unfun to control. A gun based Metroidvania needs diagonal aiming to work. Zero Mission is exactly what a remake should be because it took the base concept of a massively influential but very bad game and said “What if it was good and used the lessons of 15 years of experience?”
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Dec 9, 2021 17:52
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SilvergunSuperman posted:To each their own, I have more fun with the original Castlevania, Super Mario and Mega Man series than any of their sequels. Mega Man 2 is one of my top 20 games ever but I'm not going to pretend like I didn't spend a good amount of time dying for bullshit reasons because my NES didn't detect my button input properly in an intense area.
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Dec 9, 2021 17:53
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nvidiagouge posted:Mega Man 2 is one of my top 20 games ever but I'm not going to pretend like I didn't spend a good amount of time dying for bullshit reasons because my NES didn't detect my button input properly in an intense area. Anger makes u feel alive, you'd have just wasted the extra time replaying that part on something dumb anyway.
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Dec 9, 2021 17:54
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I'm with that poster, nostalgia is a hell of a drug and one thats fun to ingest but yes sorry almost all NES games have been superseded by a higher quality product
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Dec 9, 2021 17:56
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You don't have to be sorry, it's not like that statement changes my opinion 
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Dec 9, 2021 17:59
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Rutibex posted:metriod 1 is fine if you add a minimap i can see this, never got zero mission. wish I could play it on the switch did metroid 2 have a minimap? was metroid 2 actually any good? i borrowed it from a friend for a while but didn’t play it much, iirc it’s like metroid 1 but with a collectathon?
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Dec 9, 2021 18:00
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nvidiagouge posted:Mega Man 2 is one of my top 20 games ever but I'm not going to pretend like I didn't spend a good amount of time dying for bullshit reasons because my NES didn't detect my button input properly in an intense area. maybe your bad at megaman
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Dec 9, 2021 18:00
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SilvergunSuperman posted:You don't have to be sorry, it's not like that statement changes my opinion its not like i need or want to, there are a lot of things more wrong with the world than someone playing nes games in 2021 its still pretty lol though
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Dec 9, 2021 18:01
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But while there are a ton of NES “classics” that do not hold up, Zelda, Metroid, most versions of the shmup franchises to name a few, there are a ton that are as good as ever, Mario 1&3, Megaman 1-3, Kirby’s Adventure, Castlevania 1&3, Ninja Gaiden 1&2 etc.
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Dec 9, 2021 18:03
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galagazombie posted:But while there are a ton of NES “classics” that do not hold up, Zelda, Metroid, most versions of the shmup franchises to name a few, there are a ton that are as good as ever, Mario 1&3, Megaman 1-3, Kirby’s Adventure, Castlevania 1&3, Ninja Gaiden 1&2 etc. what the hell Zelda 1 is fantastic there is nothing wrong with it
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Dec 9, 2021 18:05
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mega man 1 is godawful and 2 is only slightly better, 3 is incredible and 4-6 all have their own strengths E: yeah wait zelda 1 is really good
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Dec 9, 2021 18:05
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galagazombie posted:Mario 1&3, Megaman 1-3, Kirby’s Adventure, Castlevania 1&3, Ninja Gaiden 1&2 etc. all fantastic games that but if they disappeared tomorrow, meh
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Dec 9, 2021 18:06
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Rockman Reserve posted:i can see this, never got zero mission. wish I could play it on the switch Metroid 2 has no mini-map but is still actually good. The game is way more linear and level based so you only really need to mentally map a small section at a time. There’s a little collectathoning but nowhere near the first or later entries. It also controls massively better than Metroid 1.
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Dec 9, 2021 18:08
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JollyBoyJohn posted:its not like i need or want to, there are a lot of things more wrong with the world than someone playing nes games in 2021 I didn't say I'm actively playing them but I know I'll have more fun than any time I try to slog through some more FFXV. Saying 90-95% of nes games are bad is a take I don't agree with, if you want to have a lol over that power to you.
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Dec 9, 2021 18:08
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Rockman Reserve posted:it’s a fantastic franchise now but metroid 1 and 2 are absolute garbage games Luckily, they don't exist 
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Dec 9, 2021 18:12
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the creator of the NES died yesterday i will not hear any more disparagement of this fine system  https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-12-09/nes-snes-creator-masayuki-uemura-passes-away/.180447 quote:The Ritsumeikan Center for Game Studies (RCGS) announced on Thursday that Nintendo and Super Nintendo creator Masayuki Uemura has passed away on December 6. A funeral service was held with family members. He was 78.
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Dec 9, 2021 18:15
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galagazombie posted:But while there are a ton of NES “classics” that do not hold up, Zelda, Metroid, most versions of the shmup franchises to name a few, there are a ton that are as good as ever, Mario 1&3, Megaman 1-3, Kirby’s Adventure, Castlevania 1&3, Ninja Gaiden 1&2 etc. I played Ninja Gaiden 1 for the first time a few years ago and I was really impressed how well it holds up. Incredibly responsive controls and fun to get better at, and I don't even particularly like platformers that much
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Dec 9, 2021 18:22
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chglcu posted:I guess this sort of leads in to probably one of my more unpopular opinions. Most games, especially RPGs, need like 99% less combat. Exploration and problem solving are much more interesting and killing endless waves of enemies just gets in the way of the good stuff. Sick of playing a loving murderous psychopath in every single game. Nah. “The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president? .” is as much story as a game needs to have. The rest should be combat/character improvement mechanics. It’s hard to make fulfilling combat and other mechanics though, so studios gotta rely on story and writing and stuff to make people think their game is good.
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Dec 9, 2021 19:16
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SilvergunSuperman posted:I didn't say I'm actively playing them but I know I'll have more fun than any time I try to slog through some more FFXV. Yeah to be fair if my options were either final fantasy mmos or a bunch of nes games everyone finished in the 80s id prolly quit gaming
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Dec 9, 2021 19:17
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Doom Rooster posted:Nah.  I haven't played some of the purported best games in this last gen in terms of story and writing but most games writing seems to range from "an average Michael Bay movie" at best to "actively hindering my enjoyment of this" at worst I dont know why this is the game immediately comes to mind, but Stranglehold had a plot and storyline that I don't think the game expected you to really give a gently caress about? I just skipped most of them so I could shoot goons and slide down dinosaur bones at the museum, then when I was done I got high as hell and watched Hard Boiled which was a much better experience than watching any of those cutscenes More games need to be like that
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Dec 9, 2021 19:42
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Icochet posted:Can you fight Rasputin in any game? Shin megami Tensei devil summoner. Raidou Kuzunoah vs. The Soulless Army.
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pretty soft girl posted:I dont know why this is the game immediately comes to mind, but Stranglehold had a plot and storyline that I don't think the game expected you to really give a gently caress about? I just skipped most of them so I could shoot goons and slide down dinosaur bones at the museum, then when I was done I got high as hell and watched Hard Boiled which was a much better experience than watching any of those cutscenes At least in Stranglehold, the cut scenes were directed by John Woo (note: very likely not actually John Woo no matter what the promotional material said), so there was some style to them. 99.9% of videogame cut scenes are shot and edited like parents videotaping a middle school play. And that's before you get to the writing which is uniformly poorly structured since it has to exposit people of the previous story beats which might have been hours or days ago, provide the snippit of actual story, and then exposit why you're going to the next stage while stretching everything out to fill loading times.
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Dec 9, 2021 19:55
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galagazombie posted:Metroid 2 has no mini-map but is still actually good. The game is way more linear and level based so you only really need to mentally map a small section at a time. There’s a little collectathoning but nowhere near the first or later entries. It also controls massively better than Metroid 1. Metroid 2 also has a hell of lot of atmosphere for an itty bitty bleep bloop Gameboy game. I actually prefer it to either of its remakes.
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Dec 9, 2021 20:31
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chglcu posted:I guess this sort of leads in to probably one of my more unpopular opinions. Most games, especially RPGs, need like 99% less combat. Exploration and problem solving are much more interesting and killing endless waves of enemies just gets in the way of the good stuff. Sick of playing a loving murderous psychopath in every single game. I think sudoku should have more violence.
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John Murdoch posted:Metroid 2 also has a hell of lot of atmosphere for an itty bitty bleep bloop Gameboy game. gameboy games i will agree are genuine crap. there are a few exceptions: -final fantasy legend 1-3 -Zelda links awakening -metriod 2 -puzzle type games like tetris/qix/dr mario
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