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RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
menial jobs should be eliminated, allowing those doing them to pursue more interesting aspects of life. cost savings are taxed back and provided as ubi.

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Ansar Santa
Jul 12, 2012

Please place item in bagging area.

Please place item in bagging area.

Please place item in bagging area.

Please wait for cashier assistance.

skewetoo
Mar 30, 2003

ubi = cost savings incurred since productivity decoupled from wages bing bang boom so simple

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



RealityWarCriminal posted:

menial jobs should be eliminated, allowing those doing them to pursue more interesting aspects of life. cost savings are taxed back and provided as ubi.

Exactly this.

It's not socialist or leftist or whatever to go full Boomer and refuse to use self checkouts because ~theyre taking are jeeeeerbs~ when the alternative is a cashier being paid minimum wage with no benefits to deal with assholes all day.

Better bring back the horse and buggy! Think of all the Farrier jobs that were lost!

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Fashionable Jorts posted:

Exactly this.

It's not socialist or leftist or whatever to go full Boomer and refuse to use self checkouts because ~theyre taking are jeeeeerbs~ when the alternative is a cashier being paid minimum wage with no benefits to deal with assholes all day.

Better bring back the horse and buggy! Think of all the Farrier jobs that were lost!

yes, in an ideal world the cashier whose job was "automated" away (this isn't really automation it's just getting the customer to do the cashier's job) could go live a life of leisure, but in the actual world we live in right now what happens is the cashier's salary turns into a few extra numbers in the offshore bank accounts of the grocery chain CEO and the self-checkout manufacturer CEO, and the cashier gets a few weeks unemployment if they're lucky and then has to go look for some even worse job to pay their rent

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



vyelkin posted:

yes, in an ideal world the cashier whose job was "automated" away (this isn't really automation it's just getting the customer to do the cashier's job) could go live a life of leisure, but in the actual world we live in right now what happens is the cashier's salary turns into a few extra numbers in the offshore bank accounts of the grocery chain CEO and the self-checkout manufacturer CEO, and the cashier gets a few weeks unemployment if they're lucky and then has to go look for some even worse job to pay their rent

Okay but self checkouts still need a worker to supervise it, and technicians to come in and maintain them. Again, I've yet to see any solid evidence of self checkouts actually causing jobs to vanish. Hell if you go to a larger walmart they have more people working at the self checkout section to make sure people aren't stealing than they ever had cashiers at classic tills.

Edit: lol

Fashionable Jorts has issued a correction as of 02:09 on Dec 10, 2021

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


RBC posted:

i know all the people that pick my orders because i do it the same time every week and they don't pull that poo poo. They always call for substitutions. thats sum bullshit

Same and same. Will never set foot inside a Real Canadian Superstore again, inshallah. I have only had the most minor of issues with my orders over the past year (it the spinach is liquified in the bag then its proooooobably past its due date) and that accumulated aggravation is still no where near a single time shopping inside of one for myself. gently caress my fellow shoppers in particular but also lol I never get hit up to get a credit card pitch while shopping anymore with adblock. And it employs people. Owns.

Bilirubin has issued a correction as of 02:13 on Dec 10, 2021

Kalsco
Jul 26, 2012


People suck rear end at scanning items and a two person wait behind anyone scanning more than like 3 things at self checkout is an assured prison sentence, in terms of length.

Coxswain Balls
Jun 4, 2001

The new self checkouts at Costco are great because on the weekend even with all the tills open there's still a line going to the back of the store. I can pop in if I just need some tortillas or something and not have to wait 15 minutes in line behind the people with multiple carts of stuff, and there are still staff there to help out or scan heavy items.

People refusing to use them is great because it means there's never a line for them.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


ever since mcdonalds added self ordering kiosks out here I’ve seen more people in the back and not fewer people in general despite there being two tills instead of four or five like in ye olde dayes

seems to work the same in grocery stores too

funny song about politics
Feb 11, 2002
I know anecdotally I order more items and make more complex orders in general when I buy McDonalds with the kiosk. I guess I feel some kind of shame/awkwardness about asking for no pickles or adding a side of McNuggets, so I only do it with the machine. I feel like I can’t be alone in spending more when I’m not ordering from a person.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

vyelkin posted:

yes, in an ideal world the cashier whose job was "automated" away (this isn't really automation it's just getting the customer to do the cashier's job) could go live a life of leisure, but in the actual world we live in right now what happens is the cashier's salary turns into a few extra numbers in the offshore bank accounts of the grocery chain CEO and the self-checkout manufacturer CEO, and the cashier gets a few weeks unemployment if they're lucky and then has to go look for some even worse job to pay their rent

so the only moral thing to do is use the self checkout but also make sure you buy lots of fancy cheese and hit the apple button

Noblesse Obliged
Apr 7, 2012

funny song about politics posted:

I know anecdotally I order more items and make more complex orders in general when I buy McDonalds with the kiosk. I guess I feel some kind of shame/awkwardness about asking for no pickles or adding a side of McNuggets, so I only do it with the machine. I feel like I can’t be alone in spending more when I’m not ordering from a person.

I run a health service which is just me following you around and raising my eyebrows when you order food

Health Services
Feb 27, 2009

Noblesse Obliged posted:

I run a health service which is just me following you around and raising my eyebrows when you order food

:hai:

Noblesse Obliged
Apr 7, 2012


ha! :discourse:

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!

funny song about politics posted:

I know anecdotally I order more items and make more complex orders in general when I buy McDonalds with the kiosk. I guess I feel some kind of shame/awkwardness about asking for no pickles or adding a side of McNuggets, so I only do it with the machine. I feel like I can’t be alone in spending more when I’m not ordering from a person.

The mobile app is a godsend for this kind of thing. It’s so much easier to just say “I’m here for order DC73” than try to rattle off the order through those terrible drive thru speakers. Makes it easier for the people working the drive thru as well I’d imagine.

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

I don't eat McDonalds and neither should you. Do you know why? it tastes like poo poo

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!
best fountain Coke Zero in town. nothing else comes close.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


man now I got a hankerin for a tenner of mcnuggets with honey

BGrifter posted:

best fountain Coke Zero in town. nothing else comes close.

this is correct

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

skewetoo posted:

Really tho this is the Canada cspam thread it's mostly dd scabs for some weird reason

Im b cup at best

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Superstore is scum. Never enforced masking in the Winkler store. Always had a cop at the front of the store for intimidation.

Isizzlehorn
Feb 25, 2010

:lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick:

BGrifter posted:

The mobile app is a godsend for this kind of thing. It’s so much easier to just say “I’m here for order DC73” than try to rattle off the order through those terrible drive thru speakers. Makes it easier for the people working the drive thru as well I’d imagine.

It breaks down when you show up for two or more app orders from one vehicle. They always have one order ready, then stand there wondering why you're not leaving, then you remind them you are picking up two orders, then they scramble that order together because they thought they had more time inbetween vehicles.

I guess it's just really rare, given covid times and a lot of hesitance towards using the app. I loving love it, though the only thing I can stomach from them is nugs and fruit smoothies. Everything else McD's does fucks with my stomach on a visceral level.

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

IĂŤÂ̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓gĂŤÂ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕
I wonder how much paper/plastic people have wasted by pretending their gluttonyorder at McDonalds is meant for 2 people and asking for an extra straw

DynamicSloth
Jul 30, 2006

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Fried Watermelon posted:

Superstore is scum. Never enforced masking in the Winkler store. Always had a cop at the front of the store for intimidation.

All the major Canadian grocery chains colluded together to fix bread prices for 16 years, probably the majority of most posters here's lives, they are literally Dickens villains.

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Fashionable Jorts posted:

Self checkouts are the best, and are pretty much the only way I will shop anymore. Not having to to interact with a human is lovely. And I'm willing to bet that the number of jobs lost due to self checkouts in grocery stores is so minor it could be dismissed as a rounding error.

Absolutely not true, self-checkouts cut the number of cashiers on at one time in half at the store I worked at when they rolled out.

Also way to embrace the alienation my dude. I think one of the worst aspects of retail is the people that treat you like you don't exist, or at least make it clear they wish you didn't exist.

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Fashionable Jorts posted:

Exactly this.

It's not socialist or leftist or whatever to go full Boomer and refuse to use self checkouts because ~theyre taking are jeeeeerbs~ when the alternative is a cashier being paid minimum wage with no benefits to deal with assholes all day.

Better bring back the horse and buggy! Think of all the Farrier jobs that were lost!

I knew people that depended on those jobs that lost half their hours, my gf at that time was one of those people. Yes those jobs suck, but unless we live in a truly socialist paradise people need those jobs. You're living in a fantasy world where people don't need lovely jobs.

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Virtual Russian posted:

Also way to embrace the alienation my dude. I think one of the worst aspects of retail is the people that treat you like you don't exist, or at least make it clear they wish you didn't exist.

I've worked retail on and off for the better part of 15 years now. Customers who are in and out without saying a word other than "I'm paying debit" or whatever are heroes deserving of statues.

When I'm shopping I'm wearing headphones, I'm power walking, and I'm avoiding eye contact. Self checkouts don't ask me questions that I have to lie to answer to avoid making things weird.

Bleck
Jan 7, 2014

No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.

Virtual Russian posted:

I knew people that depended on those jobs that lost half their hours, my gf at that time was one of those people. Yes those jobs suck, but unless we live in a truly socialist paradise people need those jobs. You're living in a fantasy world where people don't need lovely jobs.

Check out is vs. ought.

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!

Fashionable Jorts posted:

When I'm shopping I'm wearing headphones, I'm power walking, and I'm avoiding eye contact.

too long for a thread title?

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

IĂŤÂ̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓gĂŤÂ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕

Virtual Russian posted:

Also way to embrace the alienation my dude. I think one of the worst aspects of retail is the people that treat you like you don't exist, or at least make it clear they wish you didn't exist.

Ok but what if the people who everybody tries to avoid eye contact with for the same reason they avoid making eye contact with homeless people got paid another 50 cents an hour?

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
when i worked at walmart i preferred the customers who ignored me. the customers who talked to me treated me like their servant. no one ever treated me like a human, so i preferred to be ignored

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Working in a bike shop is barely working retail except once.in a while some loving peick waltzes in and sucks all the fun out of it for a day.

Then it snows and for a few months I'm basically a shoe salesman catering to neurotic ski people and Karens from Charleswood.

Ya just gimme your shoe size weight and height I'll give you a discount if you don't try to talk to me about skiing.

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



Virtual Russian posted:

Absolutely not true, self-checkouts cut the number of cashiers on at one time in half at the store I worked at when they rolled out.

Also way to embrace the alienation my dude. I think one of the worst aspects of retail is the people that treat you like you don't exist, or at least make it clear they wish you didn't exist.

I love when customers ignore me when I talk to them. I'll also never use self checkout because I like saying hi to the cashiers and having some small talk with people despite my millennial anxiety

Slotducks
Oct 16, 2008

Nobody puts Phil in a corner.


The whole working experience of a cashier would be made infinitely better if the corporate overlords showed a modicum of respect for their labour and allowed them to sit during their shift (like in Europe).

Also lmao imagine how bad it would be if Galen Weston's workforce didn't unionize

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

i like the self-checkout because there's never a guy with the giant stack of scratchers and lottery stubs, none of which won a prize, standing in the loving way

and the self-checkout is about three metres away from the lottery scanning kiosk, which can check tickets just as well as the app on your goddamned smartphone you dork oh god now he's picking out new scratchers and he just has to have THAT one

crazy eyes mustafa
Nov 30, 2014

skipmyseashells posted:

too long for a thread title?

and why does this thread always do this- seize on a seemingly random sentence and be like “that’s it. thread title. goldmine”

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

crazy eyes mustafa posted:

and why does this thread always do this- seize on a seemingly random sentence and be like “that’s it. thread title. goldmine”

Because we like to have fun? Go make a QCS thread about it.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

oh great now he's reciting a lotto max order that rivals a meme starcups drink, and the cashier's hosed it up three times already because he cares even less about this schmuck's gambling habit than i do and is just messing with him at this point, which i suppose isn't a bad thing because it's two people who've found one of the few sources of life's joy in each other

well, three, if you count me buying another week's worth of coffee and eggs with no human contact whatsoever

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
the Let's go (to) Brandon title was extremely cringe and I don't get this current one at all

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RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
[Canada] being slightly better than America is not a cultural identity

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