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Meanwhile other power metal dad band Iced Earth has their lead singer in deep poo poo for being part of the storming of the Capitol So it could be worse
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Yeah I cooled on them for a while, partially because of not being super into the WW2 pro-Germany songs, but I think they've made it clear they're on the weird metal dad who will punch a nazi side, not the weird metal dad who will kiss a nazi on the lips side. The Lone Badger posted:This is useful to know. Spotify keeps throwing Sabaton at me and I'd been casting side-glances and skipping them after hearing some of the songs. Trust me, as someone who is Jewish, it's a really awkward feeling at first. That said considering Paradox sells their music as DLC (and it's awesome in map games), I always figured they probably weren't bad, but I couldn't find much beyond they played in Israel. lol But yeah I get the impression they're History Nerd Dads who just want to sing about Stalingrad as opposed to say whatever horror movie Kerry King was watching, before a writing session. It's just some of them have a kind of neutral observer commenting on what's occurring, so I can see how some stuff might come off like an endorsement. That said I think they should do a comedy influenced History metal album based on the Russian Navy in the Russo Japanese War. Swedish dude screaming about diseased animals biting be people would be pretty good. lol MikeCrotch posted:Meanwhile other power metal dad band Iced Earth has their lead singer in deep poo poo for being part of the storming of the Capitol 
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I'm currently playing through Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous and there's this event in that happens to the protagonist's army that got me curious about how early modern-ish fantasy militaries and societies would approach anti-air given their technological means and limitations. In other words, most ranged fire is delivered by archers/crossbowmen with a smattering of spellcasters and firearms at the setting's point and time are not available in enough of a quantity to make a difference. For context, the protagonist is given command of a small army and is given orders to retake a fallen fortress that is currently occupied by Demons and their cultist collaborators. Along the way, the encampment is attacked in the dead of night by the setting's gargoyles who kill and captured a portion of the protagonist's army (including various important officers, party members, and the chief medical/religious chaplain). There's also another incident so far in my first playthrough where besides the local airborne demons and gargoyles there's a hungry dragon roaming around picking off scouts and harassing the protagonist's party.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Guess you could say...he's going to be on ice for awhile. Not really, he flipped for the feds, presumably for a reduced sentence, so it is more likely that he will get iced.
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Valtonen posted:-Heroic last stand against the said waffel-SS. Such a syrupy scene.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Such a syrupy scene. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flemish_Legion https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walloon_Legion
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chitoryu12 posted:I think it would have worked better if the film leaned into Wardaddy being pretty much completely insane by that point. Parking your tank to sacrifice everyone on a crossing in April 1945 is objectively loving nuts, but the film immediately shifts gears to portray it like it’s a heroic war-winning last stand. Yeah, having the whole movie be from Wardaddy’s perspective starting with him rolling ashore in Algeria in an M3 as the FNG to fight Vichy troops and gradually losing his squad or being moved around until he’s the commander in 45 and is totally burned out. Have there been any WWII movies where US troops fight Vichy or Italians? There must be but I haven’t seen a ton. Or any that have substantial scenes of 1940s French troops fighting? Dunkirk had a few French guys but like only one scene. Hyrax Attack! fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Dec 12, 2021 |
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Yeah, having the whole movie be from Wardaddy’s perspective starting with him rolling ashore in Algeria in an M3 as the FNG to fight Vichy troops and gradually losing his squad or being moved around until he’s the commander in 45 and is totally burned out. The Big Red One has the 1st Infantry Division fighting French forces in North Africa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-CL6uyU7zo
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PeterCat posted:The Big Red One has the 1st Infantry Division fighting French forces in North Africa. I enjoyed The Big Red One, though in general I like hazy '70s movies. Fuller and Lee Marvin were both combat veterans, and I think the way they portrayed the war as a cruel, mystifying experience is more "real" than anything involving rivet-counting. chitoryu12 posted:I think it would have worked better if the film leaned into Wardaddy being pretty much completely insane by that point. Parking your tank to sacrifice everyone on a crossing in April 1945 is objectively loving nuts, but the film immediately shifts gears to portray it like it’s a heroic war-winning last stand. Alchenar posted:The thing about Fury as a war film is that structurally it's basically identical to Saving Private Ryan and has nothing to say that that film already said. The difference between Fury and Saving Private Ryan is how they portray the soldier's motivations. Where you had Tom Hanks and co. sacrificing themselves for the good of middle America, the tankers in Fury sacrifice themselves because they have nothing better to do. They're not motivated by the prospect of ending the war, or by anything at all. It doesn't make a difference to them because they've been mentally exhausted by the war, even before they get physically exhausted by actually dying. The film attempts to portray this destruction of human spirit as the ultimate sacrifice, but I don't find the angle as a whole to be very convincing. Comes across as somebody really trying to make an anti-war film without really understanding what a collective struggle is like.
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:Where you had Tom Hanks and co. sacrificing themselves for the good of middle America, Ummm
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Danann posted:I'm currently playing through Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous and there's this event in that happens to the protagonist's army that got me curious about how early modern-ish fantasy militaries and societies would approach anti-air given their technological means and limitations. In other words, most ranged fire is delivered by archers/crossbowmen with a smattering of spellcasters and firearms at the setting's point and time are not available in enough of a quantity to make a difference. For your anti-dragon needs I'd expect you'd have light field artillery, something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polybolos
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Danann posted:I'm currently playing through Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous and there's this event in that happens to the protagonist's army that got me curious about how early modern-ish fantasy militaries and societies would approach anti-air given their technological means and limitations. In other words, most ranged fire is delivered by archers/crossbowmen with a smattering of spellcasters and firearms at the setting's point and time are not available in enough of a quantity to make a difference. that's not military history, make a new thread for it
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MrYenko posted:With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa. Miloshe posted:Korean War mortar platoon commander:  thanks, i'll check those out
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ChubbyChecker posted:would watch Guns against the Reich by Petr Mikhn.
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When talking about comically inaccurate propaganda movies and no one has mentioned The Patriot?
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Foxtrot_13 posted:When talking about comically inaccurate propaganda movies and no one has mentioned The Patriot?
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Who would win: a Jagdtiger TD department from 1944, a modern US carrier group, Trelliard's cavalry division at Austerlitz, Titus Pullo, a hero of the thirteenth legion, or Mel Gibson with a well-supplied satchel of throwing axes? We all know the answer.
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I'm putting my money on Titvs Pvllo.
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ChubbyChecker posted:would watch Spike Milligan was artillery, so there's his war memoirs. Probably a bit more about jazz trumpet than guns though.
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Slagging of his CO, getting lost, getting PTSD but the nitty gritty warman stuff is not really covered because I suspect he was busy trying to not think about it.
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The Lone Badger posted:I'm putting my money on Titvs Pvllo. Was he the guy who who got called out of retirement on his villa, crushed his usurpers, purged all opposition and restored the senate and then drank himself to death less than a year later?
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Memento posted:Was he the guy who who got called out of retirement on his villa, crushed his usurpers, purged all opposition and restored the senate and then drank himself to death less than a year later? I wanna party with that guy.
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Memento posted:Was he the guy who who got called out of retirement on his villa, crushed his usurpers, purged all opposition and restored the senate and then drank himself to death less than a year later? No it's from some anime
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When I first learned about Aurelian's reign, I was pretty young so I figured short reign= bad (which I guess is kinda true). Then I learned about Aurelian, dude comes, gently caress stomps around Europe and the Middle East kicking rear end left right and center, and then dies in four years in a really dumb way. History is whacky af sometimes.
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A Festivus Miracle posted:When I first learned about Aurelian's reign, I was pretty young so I figured short reign= bad (which I guess is kinda true). Then I learned about Aurelian, dude comes, gently caress stomps around Europe and the Middle East kicking rear end left right and center, and then dies in four years in a really dumb way. History is whacky af sometimes. Being assassinated by your soldiers is a pretty typical way to go.
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standard.deviant posted:it doesn’t have very good tank scenes If you think about it, how tanks were portrayed was the single most accurate part of The Patriot.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Who would win: a Jagdtiger TD department from 1944, a modern US carrier group, Trelliard's cavalry division at Austerlitz, Titus Pullo, a hero of the thirteenth legion, or Mel Gibson with a well-supplied satchel of throwing axes? The only winning move is not to play. Jagdtiger wins. It broke down in a ditch before it got to the battlefield.
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sullat posted:Being assassinated by your soldiers is a pretty typical way to go. Should have kept the salt flowing.
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Happened to be doing a street view of Belgrade and saw Fury advertised on a billboard.
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Nenonen posted:All this talk about bad tank films and no mention of Tank Girl?
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Nenonen posted:All this talk about bad tank films and no mention of Tank Girl? Complete list of movies I have walked out of: Tank Girl Spawn
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Tank Girl is the most accurate and realistic movie depicting tank combat in Australia.
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A Festivus Miracle posted:When I first learned about Aurelian's reign, I was pretty young so I figured short reign= bad (which I guess is kinda true). Then I learned about Aurelian, dude comes, gently caress stomps around Europe and the Middle East kicking rear end left right and center, and then dies in four years in a really dumb way. History is whacky af sometimes. I mean Alexander wasn't around terribly long and conquered, like, all the places, and altered the entire culture of the eastern Med (and beyond) for centuries to come.
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Elissimpark posted:Spike Milligan was artillery, so there's his war memoirs. Probably a bit more about jazz trumpet than guns though. Also for his first book of memoirs, they didnt have any ammunition yet iirc. Not so much proper artillery chat as drilling by pulling the lanyard or w/e on an ancient coastal gun and shouting 'BANG'.
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ChubbyChecker posted:would watch I haven't read this biography, but he served in anti-aircraft artillery during WW2 so it's probably right up your alley. https://www.amazon.com/Tom-Finland-His-Life-Times/dp/031209325X
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ChubbyChecker posted:would watch Bit of a left field option and it's definitely not written from a serious historical perspective but the first four books of British comedian Spike Milligan's memoirs cover his time in the Royal Artillery in WW2. Basically covers call-up, training in the UK and service in North Africa and Italy before having being wounded at Monte Cassino and having a mental breakdown. They're mostly pretty funny books but also some of the humour really hasn't aged well, and it's written as a mix of anecdotes, diary entries and sketches like fictional telegram exchanges between senior nazis so like I say definitely not a serious historical account.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Who would win: a Jagdtiger TD department from 1944, a modern US carrier group, Trelliard's cavalry division at Austerlitz, Titus Pullo, a hero of the thirteenth legion, or Mel Gibson with a well-supplied satchel of throwing axes? cavalry has successfully defeated ships but not vice versa so my money's on the mad lad Trelliard
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Tulip posted:I've never heard of that first one so I don't know where 'best' here is on the irony-sincerity spectrum. Kelly's Heroes is my dad's favorite movie and Oddball is incredible. "A hero is a funny kind of sandwich" is one I use with some frequency. We (Instructors) would show clips from Kelly's Heroes when I taught at USMC Tank School and Amphibious Assault School. It may have been Army, but eccentric armor crewmen were a vital part of our culture which needed to be passed along to future generations. Phanatic posted:Worst tank movie. Movie in 1984: "Iraq just invaded Kuwait!" Knowing audience: Those idiot writers, that would never happen. Marshal Prolapse posted:But yeah I get the impression they're History Nerd Dads who just want to sing about Stalingrad as opposed to say whatever horror movie Kerry King was watching, before a writing session. May I suggest 1914? WWI themed death metal from Ukraine.
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