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Sourdough Sam
May 2, 2010

:dukedog:

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

john dimaggio is pretty funny in it. thats about it

I got to sit in on a short VO session that John DiMaggio was doing on a thing I worked on way back. Dude was so magnetic. Just a big ball of positivity. He'd do quick impressions between takes and get the work done so fast. Wish the session was longer.

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Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Joe DiMaggio is genuinely a cool dude :unsmith:

Empty Sandwich
Apr 22, 2008

goatse mugs

Mr Interweb posted:

i love him voicing bender, but the guy doesn't seem to have much range, imo.

he does a good cartoony Scot (on Samurai Jack and elsewhere) and he's the only white voice actor I can think of who can do a convincing AAVE. and he's got that dumb sort of modified Ed Wynn. I can always tell it's him, but I can generally tell when it's someone I know.

on the other hand, Bender and Jake got closer and closer together, so

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope
I saw most of the season 33 premiere last night, and uh...huh. :geno:

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

YeahTubaMike posted:

I saw most of the season 33 premiere last night, and uh...huh. :geno:

Spill the beans. I like how it's become impossible to tell if plot summaries are real or not. I know I could check or watch it myself, but more fun to guess if "Homer and Fat Tony's porno business in the treehouse conflicts with Mr. Burns hiring Gary Larson to draw cartoons to boost plant morale" happened.

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Spill the beans. I like how it's become impossible to tell if plot summaries are real or not. I know I could check or watch it myself, but more fun to guess if "Homer and Fat Tony's porno business in the treehouse conflicts with Mr. Burns hiring Gary Larson to draw cartoons to boost plant morale" happened.

I didn't see it from the beginning, but it seemed like it was about Marge having been a theater kid, but she was a techie instead of an actress so she felt ignored or something. There was this one actress who was popular and cool who everyone likes, and Marge was jealous. It was just so weird and disjointed.

Also there was an "overexplainy angry whisper" incident that was super annoying. I can't even rate this episode because it was just a nothing episode. It was a single wisp of air, out of 10.

edit: I need some PostNouveau summarization lessons. :saddowns:

Technocrat
Jan 30, 2011

I always finish what I sta
Whoever is writing the episode summaries on the wiki is...uh...either a neural net, or five years old?

quote:

Homer calls Grandpa daddy, and the drunken man is at the Ferris wheel. Terrance makes a deal, eats cotton candy, and the cotton candy are alive. Homer and Grandpa in the car without Terrance.

Homer farts in the car and a lego is hidden. Grandpa talks about Canadians and Americans. Grandpa waits a minute that they want to save each other. Terrance is on the radio while they complain. Marge, Lisa and Bart are somewhere and Terrance is confirmed to have a daughter. She thinks he is retired. Terrance is also confirmed to originate in England. The Period mean appears. WigUm, Marge and......To Be Continued.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

Technocrat posted:

Whoever is writing the episode summaries on the wiki is...uh...either a neural net, or five years old?

The Real/Fake Episode game has taught me the episodes are always real, so I'm left to assume this is just how The Simpsons is being written now.

iamsosmrt
Jun 14, 2008

Technocrat posted:

Whoever is writing the episode summaries on the wiki is...uh...either a neural net, or five years old?

It's definitely awkwardly written, but it'd be genius level for a five year old

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

The big brain am winning again. Now to leave Earth for no raisin!

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



"A crummy world of plot holes and spelling errors" is a sentence I used to think about a lot when I tried my hand at writing fiction a decade or two ago.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

welp, continuing my simspsons rewatch and i finally came to the frank grimes episode. i don't really have much to say that hasn't already been mentioned in this thread, but a few interesting things:

- back when it was airing on fox, after grimes tells homer that they're enemies, the show cuts to commercial. but the disney+ episodes are uncut, and after grimes says that, homer asks "do i have to do anything?"
- when bart and milhouse are playing in the factory, there's a scene that was also cut out where milhouse is about to leave for home and bart stops him to let him know he's going to be doing night watchman duty. milhouse then goes to one of the coffee vending machines to get a cup of a coffee and a rat falls into the cup, prompty leaves, then the coffee pours in and milhouse drinks it without a second thought and says "so this is my life now". the in the next shot he says "at least i'm doing better than dad".
- the gag where homer backs up into grimes car is great for multiple reasons, but not least of which that all the damage was entirely on grimes' end, and homer's car drove away without a scratch.


similar to the principal and the pauper, i get why people think this is where the simpsons started becoming "off", but also like that episode, i still think it's pretty funny overall.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 21 hours!
Bart buying the abandoned factory is one of those B-plots you could slot into basically any episode where you just need Bart and Milhouse out of the way, but it's still absolute gold.

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Bart buying the abandoned factory is one of those B-plots you could slot into basically any episode where you just need Bart and Milhouse out of the way, but it's still absolute gold.

It does lead to Homer introducing Bart to Grimes as a factory owner, so I think it earnt its place in the episode

Empty Sandwich
Apr 22, 2008

goatse mugs
Musk's ex-girlfriend Grimes, or "Grimey," as she likes to be called

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Mr Interweb posted:

welp, continuing my simspsons rewatch and i finally came to the frank grimes episode. i don't really have much to say that hasn't already been mentioned in this thread, but a few interesting things:

- back when it was airing on fox, after grimes tells homer that they're enemies, the show cuts to commercial. but the disney+ episodes are uncut, and after grimes says that, homer asks "do i have to do anything?"
- when bart and milhouse are playing in the factory, there's a scene that was also cut out where milhouse is about to leave for home and bart stops him to let him know he's going to be doing night watchman duty. milhouse then goes to one of the coffee vending machines to get a cup of a coffee and a rat falls into the cup, prompty leaves, then the coffee pours in and milhouse drinks it without a second thought and says "so this is my life now". the in the next shot he says "at least i'm doing better than dad".
- the gag where homer backs up into grimes car is great for multiple reasons, but not least of which that all the damage was entirely on grimes' end, and homer's car drove away without a scratch.


similar to the principal and the pauper, i get why people think this is where the simpsons started becoming "off", but also like that episode, i still think it's pretty funny overall.

Those first two cuts were for syndication, which always made me sad in pre-DVD days since Milhouse's "....so this is my life" has lived in my head forever.

The funny thing looking back at that episode is that it was a spiteful reaction to everyone whining that Homer had become a real jerk. Dumbshits didn't know what they were in for just a season or two later.

Hrist
Feb 21, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
I love the Grimes episode because that guy is real, and there's so many of him out there. And every time they leave the workplace for good, I am so thankful they left before anything bad happened. Homer Simpson is a god damned hero. He saved that powerplant and its employees, and no one thanked him. But he doesn't need the thanks. He's just happy to have helped save lives.

And yes, this post was a copy paste from an outline from a future episode. Except the outline hasn't been made yet. And this isn't copy pasted. You're welcome, whoever comes back through this thread and finds it. Just kidding, no one will acknowledge this prediction happening.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 21 hours!
Been said, but Grimes is a huge piece of poo poo for putting all the blame on Homer and not Mr Burns who hired and continues to employ him.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
Seriously. Homer managing despite all odds is a good thing, Grimes, you gently caress.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Grimes hating and blaming his fellow worker rather than the owner who treats him like poo poo

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Technocrat posted:

Whoever is writing the episode summaries on the wiki is...uh...either a neural net, or five years old?

I like how every new episode article on Wikipedia includes what the reviews were from Den of Geek and Bubbleblabber, and wouldn't you know these sites that sound fictional think it the show has still got it. I miss randos on SNPP giving Mr. Plow or You Only Move Twice a C+, at least those reviewers weren't getting paid or trying to get invited to the writer's room.

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope
Despite obsessively watching The Simpsons all the time, I somehow managed not to see the Grimes episode until it came on in syndication. I was confused because it was a "new" episode despite obviously having an older style, but I was intrigued so I watched it, and I disliked it. It wasn't really a bad episode, it just felt...off, somehow. Maybe it was because it was so jarring, time-wise, or maybe it was because the story style has shifting, or both.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



It's definitely "off" in that it's a deconstruction episode, it's not an actual Simpsons story. It's an audience stand-in incredulously pointing out all the absurdities of the universe upon which the show's comedy rests.

Some people love it apparently, but to me it's always come across kind of like "Yes, and? What are you saying, we should cancel the show?"


... oh

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

Data Graham posted:

It's definitely "off" in that it's a deconstruction episode, it's not an actual Simpsons story. It's an audience stand-in incredulously pointing out all the absurdities of the universe upon which the show's comedy rests.

Some people love it apparently, but to me it's always come across kind of like "Yes, and? What are you saying, we should cancel the show?"


... oh

Yeah, that must have made it stand out even more. It might have been the worst possible episode to have missed, at the time anyway.

mactheknife
Jul 20, 2004

THE JOLLY CANDY-LIKE BUTTON
i've always quite enjoyed the grimes episode and didn't know it was a hated one for a long long time

The Chad Jihad
Feb 24, 2007


It rules it just doesnt hit the right way if viewed outside it's intended context

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe
My main problem with the Grimes episode is that they give him too much of a hard luck backstory, which makes him too sympathetic. Take out the first few minutes, and the episode works a lot better.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
It's not a deep character study, it's their take on Wily E Coyote - despite his competence, everything that can go wrong does go wrong

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

mactheknife posted:

i've always quite enjoyed the grimes episode and didn't know it was a hated one for a long long time

For sure it's a powerhouse. I understand not liking it as it is a dark story especially for what the show was in S8, but don't agree how some might feel the need to dislike it because some of the production staff didn't like it. Similar to some podcasts complaining about A Star is Burns because of Groening not liking it.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Its a top 10 episode. Even ignoring the metatextual commentary, it's just plain funny.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Data Graham posted:

It's definitely "off" in that it's a deconstruction episode, it's not an actual Simpsons story. It's an audience stand-in incredulously pointing out all the absurdities of the universe upon which the show's comedy rests.

Some people love it apparently, but to me it's always come across kind of like "Yes, and? What are you saying, we should cancel the show?"


... oh

By season 8 they pretty much assumed the show would be done in the near future

Ralph Hurley
Aug 3, 2009

:barf::sweep::zoid:



I liked the small detail of Frank Grimes wiping his hand on his pants every time he goes to shake someone’s hand. He does it twice I think and it’s not acknowledged, I just thought it was cool they gave him a minor tic. It’s a move that reads as simultaneously self conscious and involuntary.

TengenNewsEditor
Apr 3, 2004

Ralph Hurley posted:

I liked the small detail of Frank Grimes wiping his hand on his pants every time he goes to shake someone’s hand. He does it twice I think and it’s not acknowledged, I just thought it was cool they gave him a minor tic. It’s a move that reads as simultaneously self conscious and involuntary.

it's nauseatingly punctilious, perfect grimes affectation

pretty soft girl
Oct 1, 2004

my dead grandfather fights better than you

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Similar to some podcasts complaining about A Star is Burns because of Groening not liking it.

Who are these toadies trying to saddle up to known pissbaby Matt Groening who whined to no end about one of the funniest episodes of the series that also threw one of his close friends a bone, but thought the futurama and family guy crossovers were a-okay

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa
Even as a kid I thought the Armin Tamzarian stuff was weird and bad. I don't think I saw it as a betrayal of the careful character development and plotting and stuff the show had done over the years like so many did, but rather just that like it was a very lame twist played straight in a way that felt beneath the Simpsons. Like it didn't feel like a subversive parody of the 'actually, character X is an imposter!' twist, it just felt like a straight version of that trope.

But Grimes I liked, and still really like. I feel like the fact Grimes is a piece of poo poo himself and that his anger is entirely misplaced could be maybe explored more, but I mean I watch the Simpsons for comedy not morality. And the Bart B plot I felt was pretty fun.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

mactheknife posted:

i've always quite enjoyed the grimes episode and didn't know it was a hated one for a long long time

IIRC some tiresome "leftist" podcast did an episode on it so now whenever it comes up some people need to demonstrate they have the right opinion on it. But yeah it's great.

mactheknife
Jul 20, 2004

THE JOLLY CANDY-LIKE BUTTON
the delivery of "below another bowling alley" is up there near the top for me all-time

mycophobia
May 7, 2008
homer's enemy is my favorite episode

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Data Graham posted:

It's definitely "off" in that it's a deconstruction episode, it's not an actual Simpsons story. It's an audience stand-in incredulously pointing out all the absurdities of the universe upon which the show's comedy rests.

Some people love it apparently, but to me it's always come across kind of like "Yes, and? What are you saying, we should cancel the show?"


... oh

Some threads a show shouldn't pull for sure. There's a HIMYM I hated where they realize it's fundamentally not great they don't have any friends outside of the other main cast and spend all their time in a bar, even though this is mostly just a practical decision they aren't going to have a cast of dozens and a ton of sets. No one forced that show to do talk about it, and it kinda breaks the magic.

Community smartly pulls their thread in the finale to justify ending the show: It's extremely sad if the show keeps going and the characters keep kicking around a lovely community college. Particularly for the 20-somethings in the cast.

I never watched later Modern Family seasons, but that show was on for a million years. Are all the ones who started off as kids just huge loving losers in later seasons when they should be off at college?

All that said, I don't think the Grimes episode crosses that line. Having this third party do the deconstruction instead of the Simpsons themselves helps it a lot.

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Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

My hot take is the tanzarian episode is better than the grimes episode

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