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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Flesh Forge posted:

See that actually isn't meaningless at all, it's such a blatant dogwhistle line you should be embarrassed for not recognizing it.

It's a dogwhistle only middle class people can hear.

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A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:
Only dogs can hear dogwhistles

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





ArmZ posted:

oh wait that's not the majority you meant??
majority in terms of capital accumulation

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's a dogwhistle only middle class people can hear.

Ya but a buncha white folks think they're middle class when they ain't so

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/statu...ingawful.com%2F

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's a dogwhistle only middle class people can hear.

politicians using that specific phrasing are absolutely targeting white chuds 100% of the time, if you never noticed this I don't know what to tell you

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

30.5 Days posted:

Come check out my masterclass on resilience, I'll teach you to be resilient, a quality that I am a master of. We'll talk about the election I lost 5 years ago. I should have won, right? Everyone really regrets not voting for me I bet, they should, I deserved that. In my resilience masterclass, I'll talk about how I would have been a great president, if only those motherfuckers gave me a chance. The key to resilience is not letting things get to you too much. You want to hear the victory speech I would have given? Oh, it's great. I still have it, too, want to hear it? I keep it on me, sometimes I'll give the speech in the bathroom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brb7haD4aXw&t=2s

OK baizuo
Mar 19, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Nothus posted:

It also serves the purpose of smothering and dissipating any public anger that manages to organize itself into a leftward movent.

Yeah there won't be any real leftward movement in the US until we get a Bernie type character that's actually willing to burn it all down and be honest about being in the race to spoil it for a rotten dem party, and that they'll keep running again and again

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





OK baizuo posted:

Yeah there won't be any real leftward movement in the US until we get a Bernie type character that's actually willing to burn it all down and be honest about being in the race to spoil it for a rotten dem party, and that they'll keep running again and again
the only leftward movement you'd stand a chance to see with a candidate like that in this country, is in the movement of a substantial portion of their brain tissue out the side of their recently-shattered skull

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

OK baizuo posted:

Yeah there won't be any real leftward movement in the US until we get a Bernie type character that's actually willing to burn it all down and be honest about being in the race to spoil it for a rotten dem party, and that they'll keep running again and again

The track record for politicians coming from the dem talent farm isn't exactly too promising on this.

most of the house dems / upset victories by Berniecrats just ended up either being destroyed or co-opted by the mainstream New Democrats.

Bernie himself tuned out to be a cheerleader for Sleepy Joe / Neo-liberalism "Unite to Defeat Trump!" just as Chris Hedges predicted back in 2016.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Flesh Forge posted:

politicians using that specific phrasing are absolutely targeting white chuds 100% of the time, if you never noticed this I don't know what to tell you

:thejoke:

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

the only leftward movement you'd stand a chance to see with a candidate like that in this country, is in the movement of a substantial portion of their brain tissue out the side of their recently-shattered skull

oh golly turns out we placed found a bunch of child porn on his computer

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

if it is a dog whistle for chuds aren’t a bunch of people admitting they’re chuds because they can hear it?

Pretty sus thread

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
good morning, Monday morning

https://twitter.com/guardianeco/sta...ingawful.com%2F

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
even by a bar so low it clunked beelzebub on his horned head the Biden administration has been insanely duplicitous, untrustworthy and far more conservative than I thought possible

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

LETS GO BRANDON

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Trabisnikof posted:

if it is a dog whistle for chuds aren’t a bunch of people admitting they’re chuds because they can hear it?

Pretty sus thread
Sus that you notice the sus tbh

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Trabisnikof posted:

if it is a dog whistle for chuds aren’t a bunch of people admitting they’re chuds because they can hear it?

Pretty sus thread

The Middle Class is "real," and I don't think it's just a dogwhistle. They're also real stupid.

There's a significant population out there still with middle incomes who only care about property value & taxes, and they all vote.

smug jeebus
Oct 26, 2008
I hope every 'bluenomatterwho' clown shoe who defended this gets boneitis

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

lmao he's just quiet trump

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/BeingGreenGH1/status/1470466209372155911?s=19

:thunk:

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



I love Psaki Bombs. They make my day. Daily.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1470438857510465541?s=20

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




https://twitter.com/hilaryagro/status/1470458056291016707?s=20

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

I'm genuinely excited to watch the democrat party eat poo poo in 2022

I will savor watching them lose, then write a check to FedLoan Servicing for $500, most of which will go to interest

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
I don’t get why they don’t just split the difference and reduce interest to zero. That helps borrowers immensely and undercuts any moral hazard arguments against outright forgiveness.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




Thoguh posted:

I don’t get why they don’t just split the difference and reduce interest to zero. That helps borrowers immensely and undercuts any moral hazard arguments against outright forgiveness.

you gotta stop assuming they actually want to help people

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Thoguh posted:

I don’t get why they don’t just split the difference and reduce interest to zero. That helps borrowers immensely and undercuts any moral hazard arguments against outright forgiveness.

because they want to lose

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Thoguh posted:

I don’t get why they don’t just split the difference and reduce interest to zero. That helps borrowers immensely and undercuts any moral hazard arguments against outright forgiveness.

doesn't the government already own like 85% of the student loans already and would be able to unilaterally do this with an EO or something

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

doesn't the government already own like 85% of the student loans already and would be able to unilaterally do this with an EO or something

yes

But then democrat donors in financial services would get less money

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

spacemang_spliff posted:

democrat donors in financial services would get less money

lol

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Thoguh posted:

I don’t get why they don’t just split the difference and reduce interest to zero. That helps borrowers immensely and undercuts any moral hazard arguments against outright forgiveness.

lmao the big donors would never be cool with this, and they are the ones who run the party

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




can you imagine the fallout if they revealed that they can actually accomplish things?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

doesn't the government already own like 85% of the student loans already and would be able to unilaterally do this with an EO or something

Yes a majority of education loans and also the Federal level department of education budget is college loans.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Fitzy Fitz posted:

can you imagine the fallout if they revealed that they can actually accomplish things?

remember when we accidentally got checks

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


I'm imagining a donor on MSNBC with tears streaming down his face about how he's being punished because greedy college grads got their debts absolved

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




Like, Democratic voters for whom following the news is a hobby basically just keep up with the latest reason Democrats have supposedly been blocked from action. They're not concerned with how to bring about policy goals. Why would Democratic leadership want to change that?

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president

Leasing drilling plots is big brain money makin and is good

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
don’t worry, the dems have their finest consent manufacturers on the case

https://mobile.twitter.com/newrepublic/status/1470428424556662793

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Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005


*posts a 6 paragraph gish gallop full of a bunch of random facts that you'll be too tired to address in detail*

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