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Modulo16
Feb 12, 2014

"Authorities say the phony Pope can be recognized by his high-top sneakers and incredibly foul mouth."

I also have a ninja air fryer. It’s very useful, I use it 1-2 times a week.

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Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Overall, it was probably a mistake for them to let us hear the radio calls between the teams and Masi this year.

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003

Pirate Radar posted:

Overall, it was probably a mistake for them to let us hear the radio calls between the teams and Masi this year.

and be deprived of “Have you read my email”

gtfo

The Illusive Man
Mar 27, 2008

~savior of yoomanity~
No Michael No

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Pirate Radar posted:

Overall, it was probably a mistake for them to let us hear the radio calls between the teams and Masi this year.

Or at the very least, knowing we could hear the radio, they might have decided not to openly collaborate to gently caress with the race results over it

It was a great result for the audience but a surprising choice

boxcarhobo
Jun 23, 2005

Space Racist posted:

No Michael No

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LavR8eTikhY&t=20s

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


Who knights Hamilton while the queen is still emerges from her cocoon for her new phase???

Wifi Toilet
Oct 1, 2004

Toilet Rascal
Watching this boring rear end football game rn and wishing the NFL would adopt some F1 style management. We need coaches making deals with the refs to avoid penalties and also refs handing out random yardage on all penalties. Who cares about rules, just make it exciting.

e: well, that game got better

Wifi Toilet fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Dec 14, 2021

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib

Just-In-Timeberlake posted:

and be deprived of “Have you read my email”

gtfo

Highlight of the season for me.

Toto :allears:

Solus
May 31, 2011

Drongos.
only 72 days until testing fellas.

Sab0921
Aug 2, 2004

This for my justices slingin' thangs, rib breakin' kings / Truck, necklace, robe, gavel and things / For the solicitors seein' them dissents spin and grin / That robe with the lace trim that win.

Wifi Toilet posted:

Watching this boring rear end football game rn and wishing the NFL would adopt some F1 style management. We need coaches making deals with the refs to avoid penalties and also refs handing out random yardage on all penalties. Who cares about rules, just make it exciting.


Football has been ruined by lovely officiating for generations. Who the gently caress even knows what a catch is.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Now that we’re in the off season we can ask less stressful questions

https://twitter.com/mbrundlef1/status/1470499196402913285?s=21

Astoundingly Ugly Baby
Mar 22, 2006

"...crying bitch cave bitch boy."
- Anonymous Facebook user
Seeing as how F1 is owned by Americans now. Each driver should be allowed to have a loaded handgun stowed within his/her cockpit. Just make a rule stating it can only be used when defending a position

MustardFacial
Jun 20, 2011
George Russel's
Official Something Awful Account
Lifelong Tory Voter

Solus posted:

only 72 days until testing fellas.

95 days

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:

Seeing as how F1 is owned by Americans now. Each driver should be allowed to have a loaded handgun stowed within his/her cockpit. Just make a rule stating it can only be used when defending a position

IS THAT A GLOCK?!

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Zedd posted:

IS THAT A GLOCK?!

No, it’s just a Trulli

Grundulum
Feb 28, 2006

Immolat1on posted:

I was going to mention gravel traps but I don't know how realistic it is to change enough the tracks for it to matter. And even that requires actual stewarding like we saw in Austria otherwise no one is overtaking around the outside. And again more than 5 or 10 seconds.

The comments on this article point out that gravel traps make life a lot harder for the 362 days out of the year when tracks aren’t hosting F1 races.

Apologies for asking a genuine question rather than endlessly shitposting, but is there anything that can/should be done about “you yield or we crash” style racing? I get that aggressive driving happens, and should not be totally hamstrung. The obvious way to fight back against a late brake on the inside, blocking the entire racing line on the turn exit, would seem to be to just move all the way over and force the passing driver to go outside. But drivers are also supposed to leave a full car width between them and the track limits, so there doesn’t seem to be a way in the rules to prevent someone from zooming up the inside and slamming on their brakes to put themselves in the path of your car—regardless of how far behind they were at the braking zone—as long as they can stay within track limits through the entirety of the turn. What am I missing?

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

North American Turtle Boy Love Association

You can make virtual gravel traps that disable your car and end you race if you end up in them, so that you don't have to turn your racetrack into a playground surface permanently

Grundulum
Feb 28, 2006
That was the entire idea of the article I linked, but people noted that it would yield unsatisfactory results like “I pushed the other driver off the track and ended their race, then took a 10 second penalty that dropped me from first by 25 seconds to first by 15 seconds”.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Surely you could cover up the gravel tracks with something less destructive on days when F1 isn’t in town

Solus
May 31, 2011

Drongos.

No thats how far away the first Grand Prix is. Testing is earlier. 3 Days in :barf:celona in Feb

HORSEPORN
Oct 7, 2008

Pirate Radar posted:

Surely you could cover up the gravel tracks with something less destructive on days when F1 isn’t in town

I doubt it. Most modern tracks I’ve been to in America are set up for multiple concurrent kart races or variable courses for street cars. The only way to use gravel traps would either be to mill out the concrete for them every f1 event and resurface it afterwards or to design a track with gravel traps in mind. Even if you designed some sort of multiple arrangement track with different in fields or gravel traps it would still be a mess during non-f1 events that wouldn’t bring money with them to slap down crash barriers around the active track.

You can get away with traps at places that basically exist to be one type of course but modern raceways seem to be designed to use as much of the acreage as possible on any given day.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Grundulum posted:

Apologies for asking a genuine question rather than endlessly shitposting, but is there anything that can/should be done about “you yield or we crash” style racing?

Yeah sure buddy just go back and time and make sure that stupid rear end senna doc never gets made lmfao

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

toadee posted:

You can make virtual gravel traps that disable your car and end you race if you end up in them, so that you don't have to turn your racetrack into a playground surface permanently

I guess they go against this because, sooner or later, there will be contact between cars as a result of one or more of them having been shut down. By not fiddling with the machines, they aren't culpable for incidents that occur.


Grundulum posted:

What am I missing?

Currently the right to "space" on a turn is determined by whose car is ahead at the apex. The idea is that it's clear-cut who is at fault if there's a coming together, and they hand out penalties accordingly —in theory. It can curb a certain amount of brinksmanship driving, but drivers know the one move that can play this system: braking so late into a turn that your nose is ahead despite that it's now a coin toss as to whether you'll even make the corner. This is something both Max and Lewis have taken advantage of this year.

I'm not sure there are ideal solutions for this. A really dumb solution would be to put a painted mark on each corner as to where this "is ahead" check is made, and place it earlier for curves with heavy braking zones. I don't think that's any fun though (e: it will just have teams bickering over whether the positioning of each mark is right).

Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Dec 14, 2021

Solus
May 31, 2011

Drongos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIpO5uVTd_w

This is truly the most powerful radio message i've ever listened to

ROFLBOT
Apr 1, 2005
Dont have to make any track changes if you do this

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

Are people really still seriously complaining about the state of racing?

That was the best season in atleast 15 years or something on track. A ton of great technical overtakes, a ton of great multi-lap position defenses.

Even the clown car race in Hungary had some great racing between Seb and Ocon.

italian quid posted:

Yeah sure buddy just go back and time and make sure that stupid rear end senna doc never gets made lmfao
lol

Grundulum
Feb 28, 2006

italian quid posted:

Yeah sure buddy just go back and time and make sure that stupid rear end senna doc never gets made lmfao

I have no idea what you’re talking about. Which documentary is the stupid-rear end one?

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

SUCCHIAMI IL MIO CAZZO DA DIETRO, RANA RAGAZZO



2022 FIA Formula 1 WDC

Grundulum posted:

I have no idea what you’re talking about. Which documentary is the stupid-rear end one?

Senna: The Musical

mrfart
May 26, 2004

Dear diary, today I
became a captain.

Dictator. posted:

Denmark, Sweden, Finland all have lions as well.. it’s just a cliche animal

Iirc, European lion flags are a crusaders thing. They stole these flags from the Arabs.

Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME

mrfart posted:

Iirc, European lion flags are a crusaders thing. They stole these flags from the Arabs.

European lions predate the crusades by quite a bit (Saint Mark's lion has been depicted in heraldry since the 700's, when the first crusade was in 1096-1099)

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Lions aren't native to Europe so the concept had to travel somehow

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

it's the offseason, time to catch up on old races, sports car racing, and cast-iron chat.

Azza Bamboo posted:

Currently the right to "space" on a turn is determined by whose car is ahead at the apex. The idea is that it's clear-cut who is at fault if there's a coming together, and they hand out penalties accordingly —in theory. It can curb a certain amount of brinksmanship driving, but drivers know the one move that can play this system: braking so late into a turn that your nose is ahead despite that it's now a coin toss as to whether you'll even make the corner. This is something both Max and Lewis have taken advantage of this year.

I'm not sure there are ideal solutions for this. A really dumb solution would be to put a painted mark on each corner as to where this "is ahead" check is made, and place it earlier for curves with heavy braking zones. I don't think that's any fun though (e: it will just have teams bickering over whether the positioning of each mark is right).

I agree with a lot of this -- there isn't a clear-cut solution. So the issue right now is either with process -- making calls and not getting pushed back on them -- or in some cases with the rules. And I don't think it's necessarily with the rules in this case.


Sab0921 posted:

Football has been ruined by lovely officiating for generations. Who the gently caress even knows what a catch is.

whereas other sports that are looser with the definition (see Aussie Rules and the equivalent of a catch) don't suffer for it. Or - from above - where the referee is respected and not circled by vultures after every call (rugby union).

italian quid posted:

How well does it integrate into the Apple Ecosystem?

real well, OP. I had a Series 3 for a couple years and it was fine -- getting notifications on the watch is nice, for working out it's now amazing -- but the current SE is a real good step up. Bigger screen, enough of the functionality. And if you have your watch unlocked on your wrist, it can also unlock your phone in lieu of Face ID if you keep the wifi on. It's pretty useful.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I'd rather the stewards made consistent calls that upsets Brundle constantly who wants to see "real racing", than last seasons' endless festival of crying to Michael on the radio

Thanks Ants fucked around with this message at 10:55 on Dec 14, 2021

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
One thing that I've been pondering on is how things would look if we took each race of this year's calendar and shuffled it. How would we feel about Abu Dhabi if it was somewhere in the middle?

I just think that, with all the talk being about consistency, it's a useful exercise to treat the race as though it were any race rather than getting tied up in the emotions of it being the championship decider.

Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 11:02 on Dec 14, 2021

Leshy
Jun 21, 2004

Azza Bamboo posted:

Lions aren't native to Europe so the concept had to travel somehow
They used to be – at least in South-Eastern Europe – but they were hunted to extinction during Ancient Greek/Roman times.

Lion iconography is quite prevalent in both Greek and Roman history, and was in particular used as a national symbol by the Republic of Venice. I'm not sure if it was re-popularised at some point through the Arab world, but it's been a part of European history for a very long time.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

Leshy posted:

They used to be – at least in South-Eastern Europe – but they were hunted to extinction during Ancient Greek/Roman times.

Lion iconography is quite prevalent in both Greek and Roman history, and was in particular used as a national symbol by the Republic of Venice. I'm not sure if it was re-popularised at some point through the Arab world, but it's been a part of European history for a very long time.

TIL. Thanks.

Custard Undies
Jan 7, 2006

#essereFerrari

Is any of this testing session being broadcast anywhere?

refleks
Nov 21, 2006



italian quid posted:

As opposed to anything British? Lmfao

Dictator. posted:

Brits take Unilever and Shell away, we take your wdc

I'm not British. I'm Danish. So, "Suck my balls, mate"

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Quizzlefish
Jan 26, 2005

Am I not merciful?
I agree with a lot of sentiment on this. Seems odd that you can harangue a sports official to change their mind. It almost never happens in most other sports.

If Masi had said some cars can unlap straight away, that's one thing. But saying they can't, having Horner on the phone and then changing the call.... What the gently caress is that.

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