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Jasper Tin Neck posted:The "train tracks" in this video are really tram tracks. This is not to say that a collision with a tram couldn't ruin your day, but there's a pretty big difference between "turning onto a paved lane with rails running in it" and "trying to drive down a rail line over rail ballast and ties."
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Volmarias posted:Huh, you mean sort of how bank accounts are in most cases just numbers, and financial transactions are just numbers moving around instead of any physical exchanges occurring, with periodic true-ups as appropriate? Indeed. That's why moving to something other than POW makes sense, because the original idea of decentralized transactions isn't workable when the fees and delay becomes excessive.
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https://twitter.com/FoldableHuman/status/1470302575236841472 Has anyone sold an NFT of a kidney yet? What's taking so long?! Also, I'm dying to know what the fourth application is. Well, I'm not dying, but if I were, I'd hope that blockchain could save me.
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"we're sorry but according to the blockchain your lungs belong to a guy named FuttBucker2234 so please stay still while we get those out of you"
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Scratch Monkey posted:"we're sorry but according to the blockchain your lungs belong to a guy named FuttBucker2234 so please stay still while we get those out of you" Is REPO! The Genetic Opera getting rebooted already?
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Yes public ledger medical records are surely the killer application we've all been waiting for. Lmao.
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eXXon posted:https://twitter.com/FoldableHuman/status/1470302575236841472 The sad thing is that there's some niche applications like medication chain of custody up to delivery to healthcare provider is actually useful here, but we won't see anyone "disrupt" an industry with that so
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Volmarias posted:The sad thing is that there's some niche applications like medication chain of custody up to delivery to healthcare provider is actually useful here, but we won't see anyone "disrupt" an industry with that so How would it be useful then?
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Volmarias posted:The sad thing is that there's some niche applications like medication chain of custody up to delivery to healthcare provider is actually useful here, but we won't see anyone "disrupt" an industry with that so Explain, in detail, how a database is not a better answer than blockchain for regulated chain of custody tracking.
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Volmarias posted:The sad thing is that there's some niche applications like medication chain of custody up to delivery to healthcare provider is actually useful here, but we won't see anyone "disrupt" an industry with that so Can't they just do a 51% attack on the block chain and rewrite it, rendering it useless for this purpose?
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The “idea” is that the records are tied to a blockchain that is too big for a malicious actor to reasonably reach 51% in either a proof-of-work or proof-of-stake system. Alternatively, there are non-public blockchains (IBM has one) that do the distributed data thing but without a currency attached, and since getting on such an import system would require divulging your real identity then there’s serious disincentives to sue. Of course, buying into a private blockchain removes the whole “independence” thing but paying attention to details is against the spirit of the blockchain. There’s also the problem of MAKING YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS PUBLICLY VIEWABLE but, again, details.
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Motronic posted:Explain, in detail, how a database is not a better answer than blockchain for regulated chain of custody tracking. Only this example: Our dog's vet's office closed without any notice and all the records are HISTORY. And yeah that happened with doctors too. The problem with most of the blockchain stuff is it's inefficient and sucks for storing lots of data. But a level 2 chain (no excessive energy/fees) with IPFS (decryption keys in the BC, encrypted data in IPFS) might be a good thing.
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What if, and I'm just spitballing here- The American government/state-run healthcare were responsible for hosting people's medical records instead of individual private enterprise
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VideoGameVet posted:Only this example: So blockchain is a better solution than........having your state vet board maintain an EMR system? Require better recordkeeping/retention/policies on dissolution? Have them required to provide you personally with copies of the records each time they are updated?
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Mister Facetious posted:What if, and I'm just spitballing here- The American government/state-run healthcare were responsible for hosting people's medical records instead of individual private enterprise That sounds like OVERREACH
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Motronic posted:So blockchain is a better solution than........having your state vet board maintain an EMR system? Require better recordkeeping/retention/policies on dissolution? Have them required to provide you personally with copies of the records each time they are updated? I'm just giving an example, not rating it. Sadly the state vet board doesn't do that and literally the office (a large one) closed with zero warning or any effort to get us records. No one to call etc. Oh and my wife told me the same thing happened with one of her regular doctors as well. Closed office. New doctor can't get the records. No one to talk to. Medical record keeping isn't that well organized at many offices in the USA.
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The blockchain doesn’t solve this problem. A distributed system will only stay that way as long as people are interested in maintaining it (either through mining coin which means it gets progressively expensive to maintain medical records or inflationary pressure means system periodically disappear) or it fractures and fails like streaming provider have. Either way someone is going to lose their medical records. Or you have a centralized government maintain records cheaply in a sql (or if your feeling fancy nosql) database. e: gently caress it, a lovely excel spreadsheet would be better than blockchain Ulta fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Dec 14, 2021 |
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Blockchain is a solution searching for a problem to fix. Its not going to find any. Its been nearly a decade now and its still a useless buzzword.
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If your dog was on the blockchain you'd still need to carry the key somewhere to access it. If you are being required to store a key file or not be able to access the records why not just store the dog records yourself? Either way it's a file that if you lose it you can no longer have the records but one requires a nuclear power plant to run and one doesn't.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:If your dog was on the blockchain you'd still need to carry the key somewhere to access it. If you are being required to store a key file or not be able to access the records why not just store the dog records yourself? Either way it's a file that if you lose it you can no longer have the records but one requires a nuclear power plant to run and one doesn't. We can call this project the barkchain
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Guys, every time I use my oven it sets the kitchen on fire, so instead of fixing the oven to not set my kitchen on fire, I've decided to cover my entire kitchen in flame retardant material. I'm disrupting!
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VideoGameVet posted:Only this example: I'm afraid sir that this hospital uses the 'weCare' blockchain. We cannot currently import your data from the 'healthCoin' chain from your previous doctor. Sorry.
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VideoGameVet posted:Only this example: Except even in your example your records would be gone because these records aren;t public so the private block chain they were stored would have been deleted to free space.... Exactly what happened with the physical records.
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Volmarias posted:The sad thing is that there's some niche applications like medication chain of custody up to delivery to healthcare provider is actually useful here, but we won't see anyone "disrupt" an industry with that so Blockchain is terrible at verifying something happened in the real world because people can just lie to the blockchain and now their lie is the immutable “truth”
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My doctor wrote to blockchain that I'm a hypochondriac with drug addictions and now I can't get any care from anywhere, please help I'm dying
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Jose Valasquez posted:Blockchain is terrible at verifying something happened in the real world because people can just lie to the blockchain and now their lie is the immutable “truth” Countdown till someone sends cash to a random wallet with a note saying "Here's the ransom please let my son live" to test this?
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Also like, is the idea doctors alone would hold the key meaning if they went out of business they would simply not give you the key making the situation identical to if they did not exist to give you the record. OR is the idea that you would hold the key yourself, have free edit rights to your medical records and just live in a world where leaked medical records is not only a thing but also leaked medical editing rights? Like will I be going to the doctors explaining every time that 4chan is giving me butt cancer over and over because someone hacked my email once?
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Also like, is the idea doctors alone would hold the key meaning if they went out of business they would simply not give you the key making the situation identical to if they did not exist to give you the record. You buy treatment as non-fungible tokens that link to a .jpg in Wikipedia that shows what kind of tumour you have?
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Also how do you revoke editing rights? My old doctor from when I was 4 can still edit my records because he had the key when I was 4? When he dies and his kids go through his stuff do they have the key now? The answer can't be "just make new records every time" because again, if you do that then it's just the same as transfering the records at all!
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Obviously the issues with medical records isn’t technology it’s our f’ed medical system.
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Nenonen posted:You buy treatment as non-fungible tokens that link to a .jpg in Wikipedia that shows what kind of tumour you have? NFT x-ray and biopsy pictures, of course!
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CommieGIR posted:Blockchain is a solution searching for a problem to fix. Its not going to find any. Its been nearly a decade now and its still a useless buzzword. Let's be fair here, it's really streamlined asset-based money laundering
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Epic High Five posted:Let's be fair here, it's really streamlined asset-based money laundering Blockchain is slightly different from most cryptocurrency stuff, but yes you are correct otherwise.
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as a break from blockchain bullshit have some tech child exploitation, featuring child labor, digital scrip, gambling4kids and pedophile gamedevs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMF6xEiAaY roblox is currently valued as the highest-value gaming company in the world, beating activision-blizzard and nintendo
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Stexils posted:as a break from blockchain bullshit have some tech child exploitation, featuring child labor, digital scrip, gambling4kids and pedophile gamedevs Lawfare Podcast did an interesting episode about content moderation in video games that touched on some Roblox problems. It's pretty fascinating and also horrifying. https://www.lawfareblog.com/lawfare-podcast-video-games-cannot-escape-content-moderation-reckoning
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The only silver lining to the Roblox bullshit is that it'll fizzle out after a while. I know it's been around for a while but they'll fizzle out when the current crop of kids grow out of it and move onto the next thing. Do they even make those toys anymore? I remember seeing physical Roblox toys at comic book shops back in 2008. For the longest time I figured the video game was the side thing with the toys being the main business but it looks like it shifted at some point.
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