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Okay, please let's just drop it before I do need to make a rule about discussing new variants. All I am asking is that you engage with what posters are actually saying instead of what you think they are saying. If you want to post a tweet or article with news in it, give some commentary or analysis of your own. I gently caress that stuff up too, I'm not magically immune because I have buttons, but I am trying to recognize it and keep this thread useful and readable for folks that want to discuss Covid. Thanks for your participation and understanding. e: Cats pondering orb 
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:They keep a whole lot of tweets on twitters, you want to find an opinion you made up? Go look on twitter and it's gonna be there https://twitter.com/hateball_sa/status/985748863863500801?s=21 https://twitter.com/anti_minotaur/status/803041450648702976?s=21 (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:drat sho nuff See, you can just think up any wrong opinion and type it into twitter and it'll get some hit on some nobody with 1 likes that said it.
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Dec 14, 2021 03:42
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I don’t read this thread to hear about twitter drama. Shut up and post optimistic things that are way too optimistic but keep people from going crazy. It’s important to read opinions you don’t agree with because otherwise you end up reinforcing your craziest views. That’s why you should read all the different Covid threads and keep an open mind that a) the world isn’t ending and b) everything isn’t just fine and Covid isnt over
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nexous posted:I don’t read this thread to hear about twitter drama. Shut up and post optimistic things that are way too optimistic but keep people from going crazy. It’s important to read opinions you don’t agree with because otherwise you end up reinforcing your craziest views. That’s why you should read all the different Covid threads and keep an open mind that a) the world isn’t ending and b) everything isn’t just fine and Covid isnt over I can post this chart:  And this cat I saw in south africa:  And this sign from SA I saw that I keep wanting to post because it's funny but seems mocking: 
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Dec 14, 2021 04:27
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VitalSigns posted:What When your response to objectively terrible news is "lol" and "lmao" and "yeah baybee!" it is possible that readers may assume that you are a terrible nihilist who revels in death and suffering, even if you were posting iRoNiCaLlY or whatever. For the record, I'm not claiming that you *are* a terrible nihilist who revels in death and suffering. I don't believe that at all. I just think that cspam has broken your humor calibration. Castaign fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Dec 14, 2021 |
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Dec 14, 2021 05:06
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Castaign posted:When your response to objectively terrible news is "lol" and "lmao" and "yeah baybee!" it is possible that readers may assume that you are a terrible nihilist who revels in death and suffering, even if you were posting iRoNiCaLlY or whatever. Can't speak for VS but 
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Dec 14, 2021 05:25
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Castaign posted:When your response to objectively terrible news is "lol" and "lmao" and "yeah baybee!" it is possible that readers may assume that you are a terrible nihilist who revels in death and suffering, even if you were posting iRoNiCaLlY or whatever Absurdist humour is a valid and time honoured response to governments deciding to kill millions of their own citizens for no rational reason, whether through wars or refusing to take diseases seriously.
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mobby_6kl posted:Can't speak for VS but I mean... Sure? But: THERAPIST: you've started calling objectively awful things "insanely good" to protect yourself from how awful the world is ME: lol that owns THERAPIST: I do not find this to be an enjoyable or useful conversation (Perhaps more to the point: I don't think that the D&D Covid thread should be playing the role of the therapist in this exchange. YMMV.) Castaign fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Dec 14, 2021 |
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Dec 14, 2021 05:36
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slorb posted:Absurdist humour is a valid and time honoured response to governments deciding to kill millions of their own citizens for no rational reason, whether through wars or refusing to take diseases seriously. I guess my point is that the humor at hand is less "absurdist" and more "tepid." Some of what gets posted is legit hilarious (Wang Commander's giga vax posts for example). "lmfao, can't wait for the upcoming death tolls to be posted!" doesn't meet that standard (for me at least).
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slorb posted:Absurdist humour is a valid and time honoured response to governments deciding to kill millions of their own citizens for no rational reason, whether through wars or refusing to take diseases seriously. It’s not really absurdist humor to just cheer bad things like a team or act like you personally won if people die. It’s just treating suffering like entertainment. Like you have to make some actual joke to be humor.
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mobby_6kl posted:Can't speak for VS but Yeah I've never found this particular thing very helpful at all.
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Dec 14, 2021 05:51
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Like even detached irony seems better than intentionally seeking out bad news because it makes you feel good. Like deflecting suffering You happen to encounter with jokes is less awful than directly liking to see suffering so you can do more weak comedy material to yourself at it.
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Dec 14, 2021 05:56
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I'm actually wondering whether this is an awesome troll or an absolute moron.
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Dec 14, 2021 06:22
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There’s a new option in masks for kids. https://twitter.com/masknerd/status/1470564921045884929
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Gynovore posted:I'm actually wondering whether this is an awesome troll or an absolute moron. Please don't peel off my stickers they are very popular in chud country.
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Castaign posted:When your response to objectively terrible news is "lol" and "lmao" and "yeah baybee!" it is possible that readers may assume that you are a terrible nihilist who revels in death and suffering, even if you were posting iRoNiCaLlY or whatever. What are you talking about I didn't lmao or do any of that at any terrible death or suffering. Castaign posted:"lmfao, can't wait for the upcoming death tolls to be posted!" doesn't meet that standard (for me at least). I did not say this either What is wrong with you, why are you just making poo poo up VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Dec 14, 2021 |
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Here is a case study in science working as it should, eventually. https://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1468349812084908034 A sneak preview from the middle of the thread: https://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1468349828723712003 Normally we talk about “garbage in, garbage out”, but here we have its twin: a model that can be fed perfectly good data and get garbage out.
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Platystemon posted:Normally we talk about “garbage in, garbage out”, but here we have its twin: a model that can be fed perfectly good data and get garbage out. This explains Twitter
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Platystemon posted:Here is a case study in science working as it should, eventually. The final tweet: https://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1470552995091783683
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Now that they're talking about a multi shot omicron booster potentially, has there been any research into original antigenic sin? I feel like we've had multiple, multiple boosters for wild type and I hope it's not causing issues.
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https://twitter.com/qldhealth/status/1470591561096327170?s=20 NSW:  is it too late for the borders to go back up UK is putting the boosters at 3 months+ but we're on 5+ months (now) so I guess we're going to find out who's got it right!!!! freebooter posted:Western Australia has announced it will reopen its borders to the rest of the country and the world on February 5. Unless I'm mistaken, by that point it will be the last place in the Western world to have relinquished a COVID-zero strategy and status quo. The only remaining places will be China/HK/Taiwan and a handful of tiny South Pacific nations. we have 1.5 months of what i assume will be omicron turning the rest of the country into lcl to change our mind edit: or as a preview of what we'll get. crepeface fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Dec 14, 2021 |
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Wang Commander posted:I feel like we've had multiple, multiple boosters for wild type and I hope it's not causing issues. no, you've had multiple boosters causing issues. i'm still on just one, personally
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So what are we looking at, like, 2-3 more years of this poo poo every other season?
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fnox posted:So what are we looking at, like, 2-3 more years of this poo poo every other season? The virologists at work who have worked for decades with the other coronaviruses have talked about how it will probably become like the other ones. Which is to say that it would be something you catch as a young kid and the subsequent reinfections during youth and adulthood will make the symptoms milder over time. Fun fact, the best negative controls for common coronavirus serology is the blood of infants! Because everyone else appears to have been exposed to them all and only babies of a certain age are likely to fill both the criteria of "have no maternal antibodies against coronaviruses left" and "likely not infected by the virus yet".
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https://twitter.com/miamalan/status/1470684351151157252 First data out of South Africa, as expected VE takes a hit but Omicron appears milder, normal caveats about preliminary data etc.
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Charles 2 of Spain posted:https://twitter.com/miamalan/status/1470684351151157252 Seems nearly all good news. The children datapoint is the only concerning one and another post in that thread mostly dispels it in that the same pattern predated omicron
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Zudgemud posted:The virologists at work who have worked for decades with the other coronaviruses have talked about how it will probably become like the other ones. Which is to say that it would be something you catch as a young kid and the subsequent reinfections during youth and adulthood will make the symptoms milder over time. The last coronavirus iirc took 20,000 years to "attenuate" via selection pressure... On humans
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Wang Commander posted:The last coronavirus iirc took 20,000 years to "attenuate" via selection pressure... On humans There is no coherent way to twist "East Asians seem to have acquired a gene that makes them less susceptible to coronaviruses 20,000 years ago" into "it TOOK 20,000 years for a virus to become less severe" Even the claim east asians have some sort of increased coronavirus immunity at all is controversial (and politically is mostly just pushed to explain china's success as being something other than policy)
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The real answer (maybe): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889%E2%80%931890_pandemic Where common cold virus OC43 seems to have diverged from cow virus at the exact same time a deadly pandemic was happening in 1889 that was called flu at the time but had few flu like symptoms and had exactly like coronavirus symptoms (loss of taste and smell).
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We have finally lost an important friend: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/omicron-deaths/
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:The real answer (maybe): Yeah, and this also doesn't tell anything about how fast or if a new circulating coronavirus will mutate into a milder variant. OC43 is not necessarily that much milder than than it was before either, just that nowadays almost everyone has already had OC43 when they were young and more prone to have a mild infection (and the general health of the global population is probably better nowadays too, making it appear milder). Then as people have gotten older they have been reinfected every now and then and their aquired immunity from younger days helps them to cope with each new circulating OC43 strains, which have settled into a somewhat stable antigen profile.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/14/health/pfizer-covid-pill-paxlovid.html?referringSource=articleShare Pfizer says its Covid pill will protect against severe disease, even from Omicron. quote:The results, based on an analysis of 2,246 unvaccinated volunteers at high risk of severe disease, largely match the company’s initial, smaller analysis of the clinical trial, released last month. This is the manufacturer saying this so it's a bit of a publicity article for Pfizer and the drug is only going to be widely available in wealthy areas I'm sure, but some good news on their antiviral pill.
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Double post correction
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Platystemon posted:Is this something you came across in a weird attempt to doxx me? Simmer down, Creamcups.
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https://twitter.com/EdTubb/status/1470470633251385345 Not looking good where I am.
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They need a new colour to represent a Rt of 4, maybe with sirens beside it or something. But yeah, our 7 day growth % is up above 40% now and that's only going to get higher when Omicron is more widely established. And it sounds like most of the action from the government is going to be making small changes around the margins, like LTC home restrictions and maybe expanding booster availability (without expanding staff to adminster them most likely, so may the odds be ever in your favour i guess).
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StratGoatCom posted:https://twitter.com/EdTubb/status/1470470633251385345 Ah but omicron has only killed one person (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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VitalSigns posted:Ah but omicron has only killed one person I don't think anything about Ontario's stats says anything about relative severity, just that it spreads like a motherfucker (of course, it would be ridiculous to assume we're not going to see hospitalizations and deaths from having way, way more cases). The share of omicron has apparently come up from minimal in only the past week, so it's impossible to say anything about the severity one way or another at this point, it's way way way too early in Ontario at least. enki42 fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Dec 14, 2021 |
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VitalSigns posted:Ah but omicron has only killed one person It's amazing how continuously angry this makes you. 21 days after south africa went from 300 cases a day to 20,000 a day, but their total death toll yesterday was.... 11, none confirmed omicron. Like at the end it's probably going to be some sort of fluke, or reporting issue, you will win in the end and get the deaths and get to yell "I told you so" at people that really pretty much agreed with you. But it's hilarious how much this is leaving you fuming in the meantime. No one even mentioned anything about that, you are just spontaneously yelling it now.
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