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Bring back the original axetinguisher, no random crits on miniguns, bring back the original baby face blaster. Those are the changes I would make. Everything else is pretty sweet. Sniper makes you think about your map positioning and potential verticality. I like not being able to blithely run around with my head exposed.
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I swear every time I look back at this game I learn a new horrible change to a weapon. When did the flying guillotine stop critting stunned players!?
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Dec 14, 2021 11:06
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Bluff Buster posted:I swear every time I look back at this game I learn a new horrible change to a weapon. When did the flying guillotine stop critting stunned players!? That happened ages ago at the same time they gutted the Sandman, that weapon is now a pointless joke but the Flying Guillotine is still pretty good and pairs well with most of Scout's primaries and melee weapons, indeed pairing it with the Shortstop and the Wrap Assassin into a surprisingly strong mid range harrasser
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Dec 14, 2021 11:49
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Yeah the bazaar bargain has been basically an upgrade in oubs for years. If i hadnt gotten a strange sniper rifle i would have used it near exclusively since they removed the missed shot penalty, and even then i still used it a lot.
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ArfJason posted:Yeah the bazaar bargain has been basically an upgrade in oubs for years. If i hadnt gotten a strange sniper rifle i would have used it near exclusively since they removed the missed shot penalty, and even then i still used it a lot. Yeah that's a mystifying change to my mind. Getting two headshot kills without dying is not particularly difficult, and after that it's simply an improved rifle.
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Dec 14, 2021 14:59
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hot take: designing around mitigating the impact of bad behavior is entirely within the purview tf2's original design ethos and if 2007 valve was designing around the existence of ubiquitous aimbots that they were unwilling or unable to stop then yes the sniper's mechanics would be different that said, it's still more of a mapping issue than anything else.
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Dec 14, 2021 17:40
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quickscopes are the most impressive and coolest looking kills in all of tf2, i do not at all understand the impulse to limit them and i have like under five hour of sniper ever, lol.
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the holy poopacy posted:hot take: designing around mitigating the impact of bad behavior is entirely within the purview tf2's original design ethos and if 2007 valve was designing around the existence of ubiquitous aimbots that they were unwilling or unable to stop then yes the sniper's mechanics would be different The solution is, of course, to undo Free 2 Play.
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Dec 14, 2021 18:24
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cock hero flux posted:the bazaar bargain could stand a nerf Most of the people who use the bargain are really good at quick scopes and if they've been using it long enough almost do nothing but quickscope, you could remove charge from that gun completely and I doubt most of them would even notice Kaal posted:Yeah that's a mystifying change to my mind. Getting two headshot kills without dying is not particularly difficult, and after that it's simply an improved rifle. In Ye Olden Dayes it would reset the meter if you missed while scoped, and no one used it
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Dec 14, 2021 18:56
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Grapplejack posted:Most of the people who use the bargain are really good at quick scopes and if they've been using it long enough almost do nothing but quickscope, you could remove charge from that gun completely and I doubt most of them would even notice In Ye Olden Dayes it still had plenty of people using it, just not in Sixes. I used it plenty before I picked up a Strange Sniper Rifle, and that was before any of the many buffs it's received over the years. That being said, it's been quite a while since I played regularly. I'm sure things have changed quite a bit. Kaal fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Dec 14, 2021 |
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Dec 14, 2021 19:04
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Sniper main here, just kill me lol. Easy counter
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Grapplejack posted:Most of the people who use the bargain are really good at quick scopes and if they've been using it long enough almost do nothing but quickscope, you could remove charge from that gun completely and I doubt most of them would even notice once you get like, 3 or 4 headshots with it you start being able to pretty much quick scope heavies with it, which is not okay
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Dec 14, 2021 19:33
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Sniper now costs $0.10 per life.
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VideoGames posted:Bring back the original axetinguisher, no random crits on miniguns, bring back the original baby face blaster. a lot of the nerfs made in the latter years of tf2 were heavy handed and seem like they were made by cs:go devs who don't understand fun-having. I do kinda accept the "trying to bring the casual experience more into line with comp / reduce the need for ban lists in comp", but it feels like a lot of the funny creative counters people came up with to various tactics don't happen as much anymore. I'm sure it's just rose-tinted glasses but if you asked me I'd go back to like... 2012? 2014 rules? Something like that. yes, I want my scunt fucker 9000 back, and take the vaccinator away
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Dec 15, 2021 06:22
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keep vaccinator, but lock it to bullet shield
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Buff Sniper
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AtillatheBum posted:Buff Sniper 
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In my opinion Pyro should be the other melee class i already said they should give the 3rd degree the pompsons uber drain ability, All pyros melees should have some sprt of debuff making pyro a utility melee instead of the DPS melee that demo is.
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Hihohe posted:In my opinion Pyro should be the other melee class I'll stick back 80% further than normal with my Dragon's Fury, thank you.
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If we're talking balance changes for the Pyro, I think a good easy one would be allowing the Thermal Thruster to be equipped in either the primary or secondary slot as it would probably have better synergy with his flare guns than it does with most of his flamethrowers On a similar note allow Heavy to equip shotguns in his primary slot, so that Fat Scout can be a viable play style(also make the Family Business a multi-class gun, there's literally no reason for it to be Heavy only)
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drrockso20 posted:If we're talking balance changes for the Pyro, I think a good easy one would be allowing the Thermal Thruster to be equipped in either the primary or secondary slot as it would probably have better synergy with his flare guns than it does with most of his flamethrowers Thermal Thruster + Backburner has plenty of synergy. In fact, it's the ONLY way to play backburner pyro, as far as I'm concerned. (Detonator can work on some maps, I guess.) Thermal Thruster + Flamethrower also has some synergy, but only really on upward 3rd defense. I'm not really sure what you'd get if you had a pyro who could only use a flare gun and his melee. Like, a gimped axtinguisher build with no airblast?
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Thermal Thruster + Backburner has plenty of synergy. In fact, it's the ONLY way to play backburner pyro, as far as I'm concerned. (Detonator can work on some maps, I guess.) Thermal Thruster + Flamethrower also has some synergy, but only really on upward 3rd defense. I'm not really sure what you'd get if you had a pyro who could only use a flare gun and his melee. Like, a gimped axtinguisher build with no airblast? Admittedly I was mostly thinking with Scorch Shot spam
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drrockso20 posted:Admittedly I was mostly thinking with Scorch Shot spam Give pyro a melee slot parachute and primary slot jetpack so he can lazily fly through the air spamming the scorch shot at the entire team. But seriously gently caress the scorch shot. I've taken to running the manmelter with the Dragon's Fury most of the time because of people spamming the scorch shot. I hang back, store up a billion crits, and plug everyone with 150 damage shots across the map until the enemy pyro realizes that maybe they should use a different secondary.
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give back the degreaser's global weapon switch speed but make its afterburn penalty apply to flare guns make the axtinguisher crit again but make the damage scale off of remaining afterburn damage instead of duration so the degreaser combo isn't quite as strong remove minicrits from the scorch shot make the reserve shooter actually work again, the new version of airblast doesn't actually make it easy to land those and even if it did it still wouldn't be as good as the panic attack is right now bring back the insane detonator jumps from the beta
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Yeah if the Scorch Shot did have to get a nerf I'd rather it be through it losing Mini-Crits than say removing it's knockback ability like some people suggest, as that's what makes the weapon fun and interesting to use when compared to other flare guns
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Now I kinda want to go onto a casual server and convince everyone to run Scorch Shot Only pyro. Imagine how horrible that would be.
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I played Bread Race (the payload map with the bread monster at the end) last night and it was great fun. It reminds me of how much I miss rd_asteroid though. That was a great fun map and I wish it still existed.
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australium soldier and permanently attached medic lover DESTROYED by one backburner pyro w/jetpack
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:australium soldier and permanently attached medic lover DESTROYED by one backburner pyro w/jetpack Backburner pyro is always wonderful to play because it's basically "Map Knowledge - The Game". Turn on fun hit sounds and listen to it rain.
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VideoGames posted:I played Bread Race (the payload map with the bread monster at the end) last night and it was great fun. It reminds me of how much I miss rd_asteroid though. That was a great fun map and I wish it still existed. There really was a time between TF2's peak and TF2's current decline where they just got really weird and experimental, huh? Mann vs. Machine, Mannpower mode, rd_asteroid, probably a ton of stuff I'm missing.
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What I would give for a finished version of Asteroid to be added to the game, heck there's a pretty good fan made version on the workshop so Valve wouldn't even have to do any real work themselges
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Kaal posted:Backburner pyro is always wonderful to play because it's basically "Map Knowledge - The Game". Turn on fun hit sounds and listen to it rain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDATrWhmlQQ and as an added bonus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKtavOB_d5Q
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Dieting Hippo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDATrWhmlQQ Everything I could have ever wanted and more.
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Who wants to make a comp team? I'm down for 6s or highlander. I used to play ESEA open with some cool goons and we also got Steel Highlander 2nd place with a variation of that team. PM or post here!!!
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A For Effort posted:Who wants to make a comp team? I'm down for 6s or highlander. I used to play ESEA open with some cool goons and we also got Steel Highlander 2nd place with a variation of that team. PM or post here!!! i'm willing to join as long as i don't have to put in effort or be good or download the esea client
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A For Effort posted:Who wants to make a comp team? I'm down for 6s or highlander. I used to play ESEA open with some cool goons and we also got Steel Highlander 2nd place with a variation of that team. PM or post here!!! How do you feel about Prolander as a format?
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cock hero flux posted:i'm willing to join as long as i don't have to put in effort or be good or download the esea client I think ESEA is dead. The new league is RLG but I have not played in it yet. I'd want to do occasional practices but nothing super intense. drrockso20 posted:How do you feel about Prolander as a format? This was created during the 5 years I stopped playing but I would love to try it. Would be easier to get 7 goons than 9.
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ESEA was the league that put bitcoin miners in their match client right?
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Reiley posted:ESEA was the league that put bitcoin miners in their match client right? Yeah lol
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Reiley posted:ESEA was the league that put bitcoin miners in their match client right? Now all the big developers are talking about how play to earn is the next big thing. They’re trailblazers!
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