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Coxswain Balls posted:Right now it's apparently a better idea to report sightings to your local conservation officer than to take a shot. Killing one or two here and there causes the rest of the group to spread out, breed more and get better at hiding, so organized eradication campaigns are going to be more effective if extermination is the goal and not putting wild bacon on the table. i think you'd have a real hard time still getting it past the groups founded after the montreal massacre. it's gonna be a mess any which way, honestly.
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Dec 15, 2021 05:07
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ColdBlooded posted:This isn't actually true but keep raging about it I guess. If a traveller is too stupid to know about ArriveCAN then they deserve their quarantine as far as I'm concerned. It's not hard to do research in advance of travelling in the midst of a global pandemic - gotta get those hot dealz in the States though am i rite?? https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/south-africa-travel-omicron-1.6279085 CBC posted:After the new omicron variant was identified in South Africa late last month, Ottawa recently mandated that Canadian air passengers from that country and nine others in Africa face stricter travel rules, including a COVID-19 test upon arrival. They also must spend part of a required 14-day quarantine in a government-designated hotel while awaiting the test results. The new rules came out fast. There was no way to "Do research in advance". Then after sitting in a quarantine hotel and getting a negative test you still had to go home and quarantine for the remainder of the two weeks. Not sure what deals in the States has to do with anything.
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Dec 15, 2021 05:13
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Arivia posted:i think you'd have a real hard time still getting it past the groups founded after the montreal massacre. it's gonna be a mess any which way, honestly. Should have clarified, I meant in comparison to making AR-15s non-restricted and/or allowing the use of full-capacity magazines. Even in places with very strict firearm regulations like the UK or NZ suppressors are just considered safety equipment that maybe require you to show your license, if that.
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Dec 15, 2021 05:15
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ColdBlooded posted:If a traveller is too stupid to know about ArriveCAN then they deserve their quarantine as far as I'm concerned. Quarantine is supposed to be a way to keep people who are identified as likely to have a particular communicable disease from spreading it to others. It doesn't exist (legally, anyway) as a method of punishment for frowned-upon travel.
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Dec 15, 2021 05:32
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DrBox posted:https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/south-africa-travel-omicron-1.6279085 Yes, there are arbitrary rules regarding certain countries that are pretty pointless at this juncture - I also doubt there were/are many Canadians/PRs who were in one of the 10 identified countries subject to these regulations; though yes a non-zero amount will be affected. We also still don't know how Omicron affects people who are vaccinated though, last I checked, early indications show that the vaccines offer less protection against it. I won't bother posting all the sob story media articles about morons who went to the States after the testing rules were relaxed but did not actually do their research in advance regarding the app; surely you have seen them.
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Dec 15, 2021 05:47
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I am truly astonished how many people are going on international vacations even now. Travelling to see family, or for work... I'll say that's a grey area, but jetting down to Cancun seems ridiculous right now.
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Dec 15, 2021 05:50
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If anyone tried to stop the snowbirds they would literally overthrow the government, except they'd be overthrowing themselves because they are the ruling class.
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Dec 15, 2021 07:10
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PT6A posted:I am truly astonished how many people are going on international vacations even now. Travelling to see family, or for work... I'll say that's a grey area, but jetting down to Cancun seems ridiculous right now. Get vaccinated, wear masks inside, and go have fun.
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Dec 15, 2021 07:14
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:Nah gently caress that. If you're vaccinated you should feel free to do whatever you're comfortable with pretty much. It's obvious our governments have failed to take effective collective action and are absolutely not going to reverse course, there is no sense yelling PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and blaming people for living their lives. Also kiss your loved ones goodbye
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Dec 15, 2021 07:20
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PittTheElder posted:Nah gently caress that. If you're vaccinated you should feel free to do whatever you're comfortable with pretty much. It's obvious our governments have failed to take effective collective action and are absolutely not going to reverse course, there is no sense yelling PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and blaming people for living their lives. Or let's just start admitting that we are now a society of mole people and these measures will never end. Covid is endemic, new strains will not stop appearing, and there is no reason to think the current variants are the worst we will see. If the argument is that a group of fully vaxxed people (two weeks after a booster even!) cannot participate relatively normally in the world then I don't know where we go from here. No one should do anything non essential for the next decade unless we come out with a 100% effective vaccine? Edit: How about a solution to my rant. Keep vaccine rules in place, start mass producing and distributing rapid tests. Get back to normal with everyone testing constantly. Some people won't test often or at all but some people won't follow basic precautions either so this would still be better than constant wishy washy and often contradictory restrictions. DrBox fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Dec 15, 2021 |
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Dec 15, 2021 08:13
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My in-laws are supposed to be coming up from the US to see us after Christmas, I have such mixed feelings about the whole thing.
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Dec 15, 2021 09:11
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ColdBlooded posted:This isn't actually true but keep raging about it I guess. If a traveller is too stupid to know about ArriveCAN then they deserve their quarantine as far as I'm concerned. It's not hard to do research in advance of travelling in the midst of a global pandemic - gotta get those hot dealz in the States though am i rite?? Hi I got selected at random for a quarantine/mandatory covid test even after being fully vaxxed, completed the arrive can properly, was in the USA for less than 5 hours (picking up a rescue puppy), and was in a state with a lower covid incidence rate than my province..... It's all random bullshit to pad the pockets of the private companies administering the tests...because why wouldnt you force me to take the test at a provincial testing clinic? I mean, I don't care that I had to test or quarantine since I'm a goon (therefore rarely leaving my house)...just seems like a ton of unnecessary hassle for such a low percentage chance.
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Dec 15, 2021 13:56
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On the other hand, I got a robocall from the Government telling me that I had to complete my quarantine after international travel and a nurse would call me later to verify. It was a wrong number, I haven't been traveling internationally, there is no number you can call to tell them they hosed up, and the nurse just left a message. So yeah, just give a wrong number to the government and never quarantine. 
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Dec 15, 2021 14:16
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TheKingofSprings posted:Also kiss your loved ones goodbye my parents are planning on going on a cruise in feb, leaving from florida. I am totally against this plan but they will not be dissuaded. They were upset when I told them to make sure they had travel insurance and their wills updated.
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Dec 15, 2021 14:19
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Coxswain Balls posted:Should have clarified, I meant in comparison to making AR-15s non-restricted and/or allowing the use of full-capacity magazines. Even in places with very strict firearm regulations like the UK or NZ suppressors are just considered safety equipment that maybe require you to show your license, if that. What's the difference between a suppressor and a silencer, if anything? I tried searching for Canada's laws and just got a bunch of customs going "YOU CAN'T HAVE IT"
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Dec 15, 2021 14:24
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Arivia posted:What's the difference between a suppressor and a silencer, if anything? I tried searching for Canada's laws and just got a bunch of customs going "YOU CAN'T HAVE IT" There isn’t any, it’s the same thing. Unfortunately, because Hollywood turned them into sneaky assassin accessories everyone thinks they silence gunshots and now legalizing them to reduce hearing damage/noise complaints is basically untenable.
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Dec 15, 2021 14:42
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Arivia posted:What's the difference between a suppressor and a silencer, if anything? I tried searching for Canada's laws and just got a bunch of customs going "YOU CAN'T HAVE IT" Many people will argue that 'silencer' is a misnomer and the only proper term is 'suppressor'. I lean towards agreeing with them. Suppressors can reduce decibel levels pretty significantly, however guns are at a starting point of "that's loud as gently caress" so at best you're getting down to "pretty drat loud". I'm not a gun guy, but if I were I would probably use a suppressor as much as possible to protect against hearing damage. But yeah, as Frank said, media stupidity has made people think you can screw a tin can with some padding on to the barrel or shoot through a pillow and achieve near silent operation (or apparently a laser beam sound?). So apparently only an evil assassin would use a suppressor.
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Dec 15, 2021 15:12
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Dec 15, 2021 16:18
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Suppressor drops the sound by about 30db on average. Which is around the level that properly fitted and worn hearing protection drops the sound. This takes a typical gun shot from 140 db, i.e. louder than using a jackhammer, to 110 db, i.e. about the level of a concert or a car horn honking. Which is still way up in the 'causes hearing damage' range. "Guns with suppressors sound like how people imagine normal guns do and guns without suppressors will blow your ears out."
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Dec 15, 2021 16:19
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Silencers are wildly dangerous devices that should absolute be restricted for reasons demonstrated in a series of bad movies with no understanding of these things. That same logic is used to justify the bans on nunchuks and three-section-staves.
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Dec 15, 2021 16:57
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flakeloaf posted:Silencers are wildly dangerous devices that should absolute be restricted for reasons demonstrated in a series of bad movies with no understanding of these things. That same logic is used to justify the bans on nunchuks and three-section-staves. I believe that public safety standards should be based on observations made from Shaw Brothers films, so basically we need to ban nunchucks, flying guillotines, and poles. Also assault is tolerated if the person you assaulted disrespected and/or removed the sign outside your dojo and/or if the person in question previously murdered your master. 
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Dec 15, 2021 17:42
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HOW IS HE SO STUPID? gently caress! https://twitter.com/kevinctv/status/1471154581002465283?s=21
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Dec 15, 2021 17:42
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Sure, why not? What could possibly go wrong? Why is your provincial government literally trying to kill you? For all the jokes we make about Alberta, no one seems to hate Albertans more than themselves.
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Dec 15, 2021 18:25
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PT6A posted:HOW IS HE SO STUPID? gently caress! But something something international travel!
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Dec 15, 2021 18:25
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InfiniteZero posted:I believe that public safety standards should be based on observations made from Shaw Brothers films, so basically we need to ban nunchucks, flying guillotines, and poles. Also assault is tolerated if the person you assaulted disrespected and/or removed the sign outside your dojo and/or if the person in question previously murdered your master. If you outlaw flying guillotines, only outlaws will have flying guillotines.
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Dec 15, 2021 19:02
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The only way to make a suppressed firearm actually kinda quiet is with subsonic ammunition in a firearm designed for it and even then it basically sounds like a staple gun the size of a guitar. Irl a suppressor is a very useful hunting implement because it doesn't spook every animal within a mile while annoying everyone else in the valley with you. When I was in Europe I saw someone hunting with a suppressed shotgun. But of course thanks to Bond movies people here think they're the perfect assassin's tool.
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Dec 15, 2021 19:18
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tl;dr gun culture
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Dec 15, 2021 19:19
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PT6A posted:HOW IS HE SO STUPID? gently caress! So reminder that he made these changes because the existing rules were in the way of his christmas plans. Which implies he had plans to hang out indoors with a bunch of anti-vaxxers, presumably his family.
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Dec 15, 2021 19:35
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I'm pro rental silencers for 'pig hunters' during pig hunting season only.
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Dec 15, 2021 20:20
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Lead out in cuffs posted:So reminder that he made these changes because the existing rules were in the way of his christmas plans. Hey look, you can’t just ask your rentboy about their vaccination status, it’s awkward!
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Dec 15, 2021 21:23
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Why the LCBO, Doug? https://twitter.com/robertbenzie/status/1471213658642558982
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Dec 15, 2021 22:20
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Because it's a government run retail distribution point with hundreds of locations province wide?
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Dec 15, 2021 22:23
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And god knows a large portion of the province is gonna be at one in the next few weeks
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Dec 15, 2021 22:26
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Yeah, if it was a lovely Doug Ford "favours for corporate buddies" measure, they'd be at Shoppers. In an ideal world, they'd be at libraries / community centres too, but I can't fault this idea that much.
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Dec 15, 2021 22:36
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if you don't want hearing damage from guns then just don't use guns
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Dec 15, 2021 23:03
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Yeah there are tons of LCBOs all over the province, and it's a government owned asset that has the logistical know-how to distribute product. Also, everyone knows where they are. The announcements today were good, too bad they didn't do all this two weeks ago. But I guess that's just how Doug rolls. 
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Dec 15, 2021 23:11
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infernal machines posted:Because it's a government run retail distribution point with hundreds of locations province wide? HappyHippo posted:Yeah there are tons of LCBOs all over the province, and it's a government owned asset that has the logistical know-how to distribute product. Also, everyone knows where they are. PT6A posted:HOW IS HE SO STUPID? gently caress! Furnaceface posted:I dont know why but I keep thinking Alberta has hit the lowest point it can go and then Kenney finds a new way to dig deeper. mom and dad fight a lot fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Dec 15, 2021 |
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Dec 15, 2021 23:15
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Kind of glad the Coquihalla hwy is out considering.
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Dec 15, 2021 23:36
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snorch posted:Kind of glad the Coquihalla hwy is out considering. Too bad about the international airport which brings international and domestic idiots from all over…
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Dec 16, 2021 00:10
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:Oh my loving god. This rings truer than ever: Yes, this. I was ready for that stupid cocksucker to not do anything, I was not prepared for him to actually relax restrictions.
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Dec 16, 2021 00:23
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