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goochtit
Nov 2, 2021



https://twitter.com/27khv/status/1471097913627578376
https://twitter.com/27khv/status/1471098301223247886

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brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


I really liked the original Rainbow Six video game as a kid. The novel, not so much.

e: I also once knew a guy who went to school with Vince Flynn and was the basis for one of the secondary characters in those insane novels

brugroffil has issued a correction as of 16:24 on Dec 15, 2021

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

this is good hth

washington losing its ability to push other countries around financially is extremely good

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
Don't read clancyverse read Maberryverse fir insane reactionary novels with a consistent continuity!

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

gradenko_2000 posted:

Perhaps the grandfather of the genre is General Sir John Hackett's "The Third World War", which posits a Soviet invasion of Western Europe in August 1985 and presents it in a high-level retrospective, as if he was describing a history of what had already happened.

Harold Coyle. His most famous work is "Team Yankee", which is your stock-standard Cold-War-Gone-Hot scenario of the USSR invading West Germany. Later he'd also delve into works about the US military getting involved in inter-European wars, given the lack of a big Soviet boogeyman, starting with "The Ten Thousand".

Ralph Peters. I think he's only really done one notable book, "Red Army", but it is notable as far as it's a USSR-invades-Europe scenario but the story is told purely from the (perceived) perspective of Soviet soldiers.

Stephen Coonts. A former bomber pilot, he wrote "Flight of the Intruder", which is sort of like a revisionist take on Vietnam to try and demonstrate what the US could have done if only the politicians weren't "holding them back". It picked up enough buzz to get turned into a movie in 1991. Coonts is still writing up to today, but as far as I know he went more towards the single-protagonist-spy-thriller rather than broad geopolitics.

WEB Griffin. This one's getting a little far afield, as he tackles historical intelligence operations, with books about the OSS, the ONI, commandos, and other special forces in past wars, but I still count him among the genre for things like writing about a dude who flies in the Battle of Britain, then flies for the Flying Tigers, and is such a pro pilot that he becomes Chiang Kai-Shek's personal advisor and bangs dozens of Chinese women.

Dale Brown. Look up "Chains of Command" to get a glimpse into right-wing fantasies about the US defending Ukraine from Russian invasion while being lead by Not-Hillary-Clinton as Shadow President. He's a profilic enough writer that he's also done a bunch of novels by now where China is the baddie, after rotating through Russia, Iran, and drug cartels.

Larry Bond. He was Tom Clancy's writing partner on "Red Storm Rising", and I've always considered him the better author, on top of being a game designer involved with the Harpoon wargame series. "Red Phoenix" is about a new Korean War, "Vortex" is about apartheid South Africa deciding to blitzkrieg the rest of the continent, and "Cauldron" is something like if Macron decided he wanted to team up with the Alternative für Deutschland to conquer a post-NATO Europe, and the US has to defend the independence of Poland, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia. His latest works have all been focused on a single submarine crew, and tends to be somewhat less whacky for it.

drat Gradenko, you read alot. I am still on that Cuban-and-Taiwanese-wake-up-one-morning-and-they-have-switched-place fantasy.

A quick search on that list Dale Brown seem to be the most popular one, I am going to set myself up for some sweet sweet pre-911 vintage military porn on hot Blackstone audio video cassette action.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/15/china-xi-kill-banyan-trees-guangzhou/

Imagine people here getting fired because they cut down some trees

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

stephenthinkpad posted:

drat Gradenko, you read alot. I am still on that Cuban-and-Taiwanese-wake-up-one-morning-and-they-have-switched-place fantasy.

A quick search on that list Dale Brown seem to be the most popular one, I am going to set myself up for some sweet sweet pre-911 vintage military porn on hot Blackstone audio video cassette action.

my dad had a lot of these books sitting in his bookshelf and I spent most of my teen years and early 20s consuming them

I actually did try to read Hackett's The Third World War recently and I had to put it down because the depiction of the Soviet Union and its soldiers was just the worst stereotypes. I'll count that as personal growth and ideological deprogramming.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Cao Ni Ma posted:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/15/china-xi-kill-banyan-trees-guangzhou/

Imagine people here getting fired because they cut down some trees

IIRC there was a Bush crony that ordered a tree cut down because it blocked a view outside his office

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



Clive Cussler books are funny as poo poo because he always had to come up with some contrived reason the spooky bad guys need to dig up some sunken poo poo to threaten the US with because dude just loving loved shipwrecks.

The only one I can remember anything about was about a north korean who was undercover as a, uhhh, south korean multimillionare and he wanted to get some sunken IJA submarines that were carrying some sort of cyanide & smallpox super poison or other dumb poo poo. Another book is about japanese terrorists who want to salvage a secret third atom bomb carrying plane that fell into the pacific in 1945.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Agrajag posted:

this is good hth

washington losing its ability to push other countries around financially is extremely good

taking out the dollar as the default reserve currency of the world's economy would be the most damaging blow ever inflicted to the united states ever

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
i think it's Michael Hudson who says that's the last weapon of US hegemony you attack so... seems like things are getting real serious!

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

HerraS posted:

Clive Cussler books are funny as poo poo because he always had to come up with some contrived reason the spooky bad guys need to dig up some sunken poo poo to threaten the US with because dude just loving loved shipwrecks.

The only one I can remember anything about was about a north korean who was undercover as a, uhhh, south korean multimillionare and he wanted to get some sunken IJA submarines that were carrying some sort of cyanide & smallpox super poison or other dumb poo poo. Another book is about japanese terrorists who want to salvage a secret third atom bomb carrying plane that fell into the pacific in 1945.

I read one of the later ghost written Cusslers where an evil Eskimo tribe plan to use genetically engineered killer salmon to wipe out fish stocks worldwide, by dropping them from a blimp into the ocean. There's also a lost Basque ship in the arctic iirc.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

dead gay comedy forums posted:

taking out the dollar as the default reserve currency of the world's economy would be the most damaging blow ever inflicted to the united states ever

It would unironically be the end of us hegemony, which is entirely predicated on the dollar being the reserve currency

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Cao Ni Ma posted:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/15/china-xi-kill-banyan-trees-guangzhou/

Imagine people here getting fired because they cut down some trees

it sucks so much that were at a point here where officials loving up leads to no consequences and just gets memory holed

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

dead gay comedy forums posted:

taking out the dollar as the default reserve currency of the world's economy would be the most damaging blow ever inflicted to the united states ever

i dont see the problem here

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Jetto Jagga posted:

I read one of the later ghost written Cusslers where an evil Eskimo tribe plan to use genetically engineered killer salmon to wipe out fish stocks worldwide, by dropping them from a blimp into the ocean. There's also a lost Basque ship in the arctic iirc.

Doesn't sound like its dumber than the evil premise of the latest Bond movie.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011


I feel like I hear how this is happening every year for the past five years. is it actually happening? has it been in progress this whole time? I don't know but one thing is clear: I'm not going to go to twitter and read the article

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

there's a very funny frederick forsyth book called "icon" that's about a super spy whose agents were all killed because of aldrich ames (and the book features a pretty substantial retelling of that whole affair lol) who gets recruited out of retirement by what is essentially The Cabal (but benign, no pedophilia) to sabotage the presidential campaign of russian hitler. it's a pretty fun story just taken on its own but forsyth's batty conservative politics shine through a lot of the geopolitical stuff, and of course the book ends with the russian people voting in a referendum to restore the romanov dynasty lol

the day of the jackal and the dogs of war are both great books by him as well, especially the latter which is about a bunch of euro mercenaries trying stage a coup in a fictional african country. forsyth was a journalist who covered the biafra war (and also was a spy for british intelligence lol) before he became a novelist so a lot of it is based on stuff he saw/heard about.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/DamonMacWilson/status/1471159512925151235?s=20

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

ewww gross

also lmao when america uses democracy like a sledgehammer

Subvisual Haze
Nov 22, 2003

The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault.

dead gay comedy forums posted:

taking out the dollar as the default reserve currency of the world's economy would be the most damaging blow ever inflicted to the united states ever

It's remarkable how long the US economy persisted on not making anything and instead just collecting rents and trading government IOUs around the world at gunpoint in exchange for actual goods.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

gradenko_2000 posted:

okay so,

this is from "The Teeth of the Tiger", which is the first book in the Clancyverse to talk about "The Campus", a privately-run intelligence operation whose offices are cleverly placed within telecommunications-intercept paths of the CIA and NSA headquarters so they can piggyback off of all the SIGINT that those two organizations scoop up

they also have a stack of undated presidential pardons stashed away in a safe, as a "gift" from then-President Jack Ryan Sr., in case they ever need for a rainy day

but anyway - two operatives from The Campus get caught in one of these Midwest mall attacks and put a stop to it (with the other attacks across the country being stopped by LEO with various states of response-times and civilian casualties). Thus begins an operation to track down who did it, and make the bastards pay

because The Campus is not a government/official intelligence op, they can't be seen as doing noisy, loud, public assassinations the way the CIA might, so they start looking for a way to quietly kill terrorists. A doctor volunteers his services, and furnishes the outfit with syringes of succinylcholine, which [allegedly] induces a heart attack that can't be traced unless the coroner knew exactly what to look for

in a later book, this same doctor would be involved in a torture scene even more extreme than Without Remorse's decompression chamber shenanigans: they take Totally-Not-Bin-Laden and subject him to a heart attack, then revive him, then do it again, over and over, until he spills

but why would this doctor agree to working for such an organization?

his brother was on the 101st floor of the north tower, working for Cantor Fitzgerald, when the planes hit

I'm going to become Q2, and all the drops will be inspired by the Tom Clancy expanded universe.

Trump still has a stack of undated presidential pardons. Hunter Biden is under arrest by The Campus and being subjected to heart attack torture. The Japanese are planning an attack on the State of the Union.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

This is like the Avenger movie for all the NED super friends.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Best Friends posted:

I feel like I hear how this is happening every year for the past five years. is it actually happening? has it been in progress this whole time? I don't know but one thing is clear: I'm not going to go to twitter and read the article

It has been in progress for some time. The latest was Russia earlier this year removing the dollar completely from it's National Wealth Fund and having a make up 40% Euros, 30% Yuan, 20% gold, 5% Yen and 5% Pound.

Here's a post I made with some (probably paid walled by now) links about Russia's progress toward moving away from the dollar.

OhFunny posted:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-26/russia-ditches-the-dollar-in-more-than-half-of-its-exports

Russia has pushed it's use of dollars in its international trade under 50% for the first time. Euros make up 75% of trade with China.

Putin’s Answer to U.S. Sanctions Is More Economic Isolation

According to this article two-thirds of trade exports to India are settled in rubles and the euro has surpassed the dollar in trade with the EU.

https://tass.com/economy/1286655

Turkey has granted emergency authorization to the Sputnik V vaccine and ordered fifty million doses of it. More importantly plans are under way to jointly manufacture the vaccine in Turkey as well.

thatfatkid
Feb 20, 2011

by Azathoth

Oh cool they're starting to create a whole team of Chinese Guaidos

kinda gives the game away when your "activism" is solely done in English and on social media. They're definitely not trying to manufacture consent by manipulating the west's views of China

thatfatkid has issued a correction as of 21:36 on Dec 15, 2021

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

lobster shirt posted:

the day of the jackal and the dogs of war are both great books by him as well, especially the latter which is about a bunch of euro mercenaries trying stage a coup in a fictional african country. forsyth was a journalist who covered the biafra war (and also was a spy for british intelligence lol) before he became a novelist so a lot of it is based on stuff he saw/heard about.

There was also a real life attempted coup by mercenaries of the Seychelles.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

three of those places want a literal aristocracy and/or theocratical kingdom

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 11 hours!
i lost my poo poo learning that the milk tea alliance is literally the culinary heritage of English colonial rule

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

crepeface posted:

“Chinese military-industrial complex companies” sure is a phrase

Cimimilicomcomileon you cum and go you com and go oo

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna

thatfatkid posted:


kinda gives the game away when your "activism" is solely done in English and on social media. They're definitely not trying to manufacture consent by manipulating the west's views of China

poaching lunatics from istiklal tv was just buying time to build their own team of people who will stay on script for more than five seconds

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 11 hours!
I’m listening to NPR, the only radio station I know, talk about Afghanistan in a show entirely devoted to ‘how could have the economy of Afghanistan crumbled so quickly? why didn’t anyone see this collapse coming? how did it blindsind the world’s leading experts? we sit down with the world’s leading experts, who say “everyone who had jobs in the war effort — poof. all those jobs were gone, overnight.”’

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

lobster shirt posted:

there's a very funny frederick forsyth book called "icon" that's about a super spy whose agents were all killed because of aldrich ames (and the book features a pretty substantial retelling of that whole affair lol) who gets recruited out of retirement by what is essentially The Cabal (but benign, no pedophilia) to sabotage the presidential campaign of russian hitler. it's a pretty fun story just taken on its own but forsyth's batty conservative politics shine through a lot of the geopolitical stuff, and of course the book ends with the russian people voting in a referendum to restore the romanov dynasty lol

the day of the jackal and the dogs of war are both great books by him as well, especially the latter which is about a bunch of euro mercenaries trying stage a coup in a fictional african country. forsyth was a journalist who covered the biafra war (and also was a spy for british intelligence lol) before he became a novelist so a lot of it is based on stuff he saw/heard about.

Biafra war was Juan guaido the conflict

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

mawarannahr posted:

I’m listening to NPR, the only radio station I know, talk about Afghanistan in a show entirely devoted to ‘how could have the economy of Afghanistan crumbled so quickly? why didn’t anyone see this collapse coming? how did it blindsind the world’s leading experts? we sit down with the world’s leading experts, who say “everyone who had jobs in the war effort — poof. all those jobs were gone, overnight.”’

Also maybe stealing all their government money had something to do with it.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


how those people get those jobs

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

lobster shirt posted:


the day of the jackal and the dogs of war are both great books by him as well, especially the latter which is about a bunch of euro mercenaries trying stage a coup in a fictional african country. forsyth was a journalist who covered the biafra war (and also was a spy for british intelligence lol) before he became a novelist so a lot of it is based on stuff he saw/heard about.

wait a minute this is just the plot to far cry 2

oh my god ubisoft stole the plot to far cry 2

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
https://twitter.com/GordonGChang/status/1471269618199183365?t=FRbFFaw_hIXgGfHa80iicw&s=19

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/30911#.YbqDTlngGUk

In other news, Sukhoi and MIG are merging to become... UAC. :v:

quote:

Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) announced today that it had merged with the Sukhoi aircraft manufacturer and the MiG aerospace firm.

UAC Board of Directors approved the merger of the three companies on November 30. The issue of reorganizing UAC in the form of joining Sukhoi and MiG to it has been submitted to an extraordinary general meeting of UAC shareholders, scheduled for January 2022. The current management of the Sukhoi and MiG companies was centralized earlier: the functions of the sole executive body of MiG were transferred to Sukhoi, and the functions of the Sukhoi were transferred to UAC.

“The upcoming merger is the most important event for the aviation industry. Preparations have been carried out, details have been worked out in order to start forming a united subject of the Russian aircraft industry - a structure capable of giving a powerful impetus to the development of the Rostec aviation complex and the entire industry. In a single structure, the best corporate governance practices, advanced engineering competencies, and a developed and effective production base should be collected. We are laying the foundation for the future aircraft industry in Russia,” said UAC General Director Yuri Slyusar.

In addition to performing the functions of the Group's corporate center, UAC will become an operating company, will directly manage production sites and design bureaus, implement aviation programs and develop advanced technology. Thus, a start has been made for the transition from a 3-tier to a 2-tier corporate structure of the UAC.

Both merged companies are among the leaders in the global aircraft industry, providing a full cycle of work - from aircraft design and production to after-sales service and aircraft modernization. Sukhoi and MiG already have experience of joint fruitful work in the interests of ensuring the country's security and defense capability.

The Sukhoi company is a successful and profitable manufacturer of world famous Su aircraft, according to the results of 2020 the company received 140 billion rubles in revenue (46% higher than in 2019) and a net profit of 5.6 billion rubles (26% higher than the level of 2019).

RSK MiG is also a historically strong and well-known manufacturer of MiG aircraft; in 2020, the company's revenue amounted to 70 billion rubles, exceeding the level of 2019 by 19%.

Reducing management levels and simplifying the corporate structure of the UAC will eliminate duplicate administrative functions and reduce general business costs. At the same time, it is planned to develop general corporate centers of competence and service, expand cooperation of production sites for a more efficient implementation of aircraft building programs. Along with other measures, this should ensure an increase in the financial stability and investment attractiveness of the UAC as a whole.

Consolidation and centralization of management is also taking place in other areas of the UAC's activities. So, in November, the accession to PJSC "IL" of the Voronezh aircraft plant VASO, the Ulyanovsk enterprise "Aviastar-SP" and the Moscow Region EMZ named after V.I. Myasishchev. The powers of the EIO in relation to PJSC Il itself were transferred to PJSC UAC. UAC also has such powers in relation to PJSC Tupolev, which includes, in addition to the eponymous design bureau in Moscow, the Kazan Aviation Plant named after V.I. S.P. Gorbunov.

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

didnt uac already own mig and sukhoi?

oh that source is wording it really weirdly, mig and sukhoi are being merged.

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
What are the planes going to be called now?

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Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

Corky Romanovsky posted:

What are the planes going to be called now?

Sukmi

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